Not hating on open source, just let people use what fits their expectations and needs and stop deterring them with gatekeeping :P
UX = user experience
I like sync but the font at medium is way too small. I went back to Thunder.
Bro just go to the settings and switch the font a simple thing
I did. Replies and posts don’t respect that change. I can consume lemmy just fine but that’s not really a social experience is it?
Edit: general > base font size works. I just… Never looked there
Settings shortcut: General > Base font size
This might be what you want to change
One reason everyone loves sync is that the developer is very responsive. Perhaps this is something you could mention, as it sounds like an accessibility issue
You can change the font size for titles, selftext, and comments separately
It could be a bug or the wrong setting. The power of sync is hundreds of settings to make it your own. The downside of sync is hundreds of settings to make it your own.
All their coding knowledge and my boy couldn’t make text #bigger
Lemmy is wild!
This is the sarcastic social media I missed since leaving Reddit, thanks!
Proprietary software is a cancer.
This guy is onto something
Pray tell; do you enjoy loud water, or are you loud whilst enjoying water?
I enjoy loud water. I like my water very loud.
I had cancer 5 years ago mate. Proprietary software is okay if you enjoy using it.
Seems like it really won you over.
Personally I think it’s people like you that dictate how others should act and tell them what they’re allowed to enjoy to be the cancer. There’s a reason the world hates dictators.
that dictate how others should act
he has done NOTHING of the sort though… he expressed his own opinion about something. everybody is free to use them anyway…
weird take.
proprietary software literally infringes on YOUR freedom. i think you better be upset about that instead of the opinion of a random lemmy
The three stages of a long-term FOSS user:
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How the fuck do I do anything? I’m so lost.
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I’ve somewhat mastered how to use it and became a power user. I’m happy about this, I’ve developed a sense of superiority over those who don’t use it, and will now promote it constantly to others like a goddamn cult. My SO has left me and my family has disowned me, but I don’t care, they are too ignorant to be as enlightened as I am.
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(A decade or two later) I don’t even give a fuck anymore what somebody uses, this still works for me, and what works for you, works for you. Let’s just all coexist. OS and app development models don’t mean shit, common standards and protocols between them do. As long as I, a Linux user, can email a PNG to a Mac user and they can open it, we’re good.
It’s been like this since the mid-90s. Most of the people who are being annoying about it are in stage 2.
Spot on. For that matter, this is the pattern I’ve seen in computers since the 80s.
Thank you. Exactly what is happening and why I’m so exhausted. Feels like the stupid Mac vs Windows debates back in the day, with the even more annoying Linux users.
Yes exactly!
Or Commodore 64 vs Apple //e vs IBM PC. Unix System V vs BSD vs VAX/VMS. Gawd. I’m long past those days.
I’m a Linux user. Hopefully not too annoying lol. Also a Mac and Windows user. Because they’re tools and I find 'em useful for different things.
I would be very, very surprised if the people getting bent out of shape about an app charging money and/or displaying ads use a flip phone or Linux/bsd phone and no closed source anything. (Car? Network router? Fridge? Television? Seriously? There’s closed source firmware in so many things…)
If I am wrong I will eat crow but… Also how? That seems like unhinged religious zealotry.
I don’t care for loss of privacy and big corps fucking everyone. But hey I run pihole and ublock. It’s not perfect but I have too many other far more important priorities, like friends, family, enjoying life, work, etc. to go all jihad against all closed source software.
I remember being all absolutist and dogmatic in my thinking when I was in my 20s. I gained perspective and chilled in the last 30 years.
My qualms about proprietary software is due to privacy, not cost.
I don’t feel superior for using FOSS, I feel more secure (and usually am)
What version of Linux or unix are you using on your phone?
Graphene Os, although I’d love to move to Post market OS and Plasma Mobile once it’s ready
Nice. I may make a move to something like that soon as my phone is getting near the end.
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Unfortunately I don’t know how in your case as I’m not even on Lemmy, I’m on Kbin.
This is a prime example of my last point though. Interoperability is all that matters, and we can still communicate even using completely different servers and apps. Just like email. I don’t remember there being giant internet flamewars over email clients back in the day, people thought of email as “just email” and it didn’t matter what you used.
So it’s just growing up and becoming a more mature person? Don’t think that applies specifically to FOSS enthusiasts. The same could be said about coffee hobbyists, for example.
I prefer my version of stage 3: I still care about software freedom and advocate for it (as well as related issues like interoperability, privacy, and right to repair) but without being an obnoxious fanboy for “Linux” or talking down to people who still use non-free technology for whatever reason.
Simply caring about an issue doesn’t make one a cultist or zealot, and not caring about anything does not make one enlightened.
I have the (perhaps irrational) fear that sitting too comfortably in stage 3 leads to the kind of complacency that allows things like Web Environment Integrity to escape the “shower thought” phase.
On principle I believe that people shouldn’t feel forced to restrict themselves to FOSS - I use Steam and barely ever pirate games
(ignore my Lemmy instance I guess); however, I think people should put some effort in understanding the consequences of always choosing the path of least resistance, at the very least.That’s not an issue with FOSS vs proprietary, but with large corporations needing to be broken up.
FOSS isn’t immune to that, its a known thing that large corporations can use their dominance of a market segment to infiltrate even totally open standards and make demands with the threat of leaving the standard (and therefore resigning it to becoming irrelevant).
This is especially true of web standards. Chromium is FOSS, yet Google can use its absolute dominance in the market place to force through changes to things like HTTP standards (also FOSS). My understanding is Microsoft and Google both have strong-armed stuff into C++ in the past as well
I’m currently a mix between 1 and 3. Learning 2, but not the shitty part of it.
I’m at 3 and it’s been quite annoying all these posts about people pushing Sync glory, saying that every other app is basically a buggy garbage (I’m exaggerating). Like, dude, I enjoy the other apps and I am not having bugs, can you enjoy your app without belittling others? Thanks?
Maybe the reason some people are pissy with Sync is because even with their community blocked it’s bloody everywhere on the all feed. Like guys I get it you like it but pls stop.
Launch hype is always like that. Give it a week and things will settle down.
And then
- Network effects matter, supporting open source software promotes its adoption and lowers barriers to entry for technological literacy and accessibility, accelerating the technological and social development of humanity
Although that doesn’t have the same ring as “fuck these dumb cult members because i don’t care and they shouldn’t either”.
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Nobody is mad about you using Sync. We are just amused that you decided to pay for it.
Nah. It’s the ads and the steep cost to remove them that make it a bad choice.
Edit: here’s another way to put it: Lemmy is an open-source platform run on independent instances. Your instance could use that $20 way more than Sync needs it.
this, with instances funded via donations giving 20 fucking bucks to a particular app developer is just a waste of money. any lemmy instance would love to get 1/4 of that…
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DNS blockers gets rid of them. But honestly $20 is not steep for something you will use every day.
It’s steep compared to the other options that just don’t have them and offer largely the same experience. I keep hearing that Sync is miles ahead of other apps. It just isn’t.
A good app? Yes. $20 ahead of other apps that just don’t have ads? No.
I edited my above comment to reflect another point, that if all these people are happy to pay $20 to remove ads from Sync, hopefully they’re paying their instances to actually keep Lemmy running.
that if all these people are happy to pay $20 to remove ads from Sync, hopefully they’re paying their instances to actually keep Lemmy running.
you know they dont XD
It is though, it’s miles better than any free alternative I’ve tried. I couldn’t even stand to use lemmy until sync was released because of just how bad the free alternatives were. Sync for Lemmy just works and the UX is the best available that is also highly customizable. The Sync dev is one guy who has bills to pay, he always interacts and listens to feedback and is constantly updating the app. It was the same when it was a Reddit app and it was worth paying for then as well. Why is it so hard to fathom that some people deserve to be paid for their hard work?
It’s not hard to fathom – but that’s not the issue. The dev decided to make an ad-supported app in an ocean of free, no-ad apps. In the views of some folks, the ads and the cost to remove them are too much. Some say it’s worth it; some say it isn’t. That’s the beauty of free choice.
The dev could have opted to take donations if they wanted to try to recoup development costs. Frankly, they could have read the room and noted that there’s a limited market. Given that there are numerous other options available (many of which are free and open source by choice), it’s a hard sell to say one dev should independently be paid simply because they chose to be regardless of the market condition. This isn’t a moral or ethical issue – it’s someone arbitrarily throwing a number out for payment for an app that runs on a free and open source platform.
The Sync dev is one guy who has bills to pay, he always interacts and listens to feedback and is constantly updating the app.
This describes the situation with most of the other devs working on the alternative apps. They’ve been extremely quick with fixes and improvements. Again, no ads in those. Sync is not the standout you seem to think it is.
Why is it so hard to fathom that some people deserve to be paid for their hard work?
If anyone should be paying for anything on Lemmy, it’s for the hosting of Lemmy itself. Sync can’t load anything but its ads without that. I certainly hope people follow this logic when asked to pay for their bandwidth, which is the only place it seems to actually apply.
But hey, to each their own – if people want to pay $20 to cut the ads on one specific app, they should absolutely do that. Don’t frame it as anything other than that though; it’s simply disingenuous.
No. The dev created sync for Reddit years ago. With the same kind of pricing options.
Those of us who love the app and decided to migrate when Reddit totally fucked him and others over kind of begged for a lemmy version.
Sync is for us folks, primarily. Clearly not for you or the other folks getting bent out of shape.
I don’t see why anyone needs to get so vocal over someone porting their existing app to lemmy. I find it baffling.
But I guess folks need something to complain about or something.
but its like all the other apps… where this amazing ux?
Clearly you haven’t even used it. It’s not like the other apps at all.
i have used it
FOSS or die
Wow, toxic.
non foss infringes on your freedom. supporting it is toxic.
#NoFOSSNoFuss
Nice knowing you? Idk.
Replace “sync” with “reddit”
I don’t mind so much that it’s not FOSS. Developer needs paying, fair enough
I want an app without an egregious Privacy Policy that doesn’t bundle code that shares “Usage Data” with advertisers
Let’s be honest though, when everyone is shifting to the fediverse to avoid corporate shit, they’re more likely to gravitate to other things that are free and open and be less interested in something closed and for-profit
@THED4NIEL Use whatever tools you want for yourself, EXCEPT for communication. For communication it needs at least two people and the other party now has to use software that doesn’t respect their freedom just to communicate with you.
I was excited to try Sync after all the hype (read: advertising) on Lemmy, saw that it had ads, and noped the fuck out.
You do you, but I’m not gonna use that kind of garbage. Ads don’t “keep apps accessible”. Instead, they poison your mind specifically and suck balls in general. The entire advertisement model is flawed, and certain kinds of people only put up with it because they don’t know better.
It’s interesting how it’s just assumed that everyone is browsing on mobile. I remember ten years ago on Reddit people making fun of mobile users and extolling the virtues of the desktop.
I don’t think apps have to be FOSS. It’s super important for libraries, frameworks and other infrastrucuture related stuff to be FOSS, but you can always change a client.
I use sync, but I think they still should be FOSS, or at least open source. Just because when anything gets left behind or never fixed, you can take it and patch it up yourself. That includes clients too, lots of good clients that get left behind because Dev stopped and whatever they were interfacing with changed.
I totally agree! I would much rather use lemmy with a proprietary client than reddit with a FOSS client. But when I have the choice to install something from f-droid instead of aurora store, its an easy choice. Also, wefwef works perfectly for me, so why install anything at all xD
I installed sync yesterday, and it’s nice. It’s very usable without paying for it. In fact, the only reason I could see paying at all is to support the creator. The ads are negligible. I had to look for them to notice em. Basically if you don’t wanna use it, don’t. Not very complicated imo. There’s other apps and the web browser. Your paying for the interface not the content.
This may be just my own individual experience, but the ads were worse before he released the first patch. Now I barely see any ads unless like you said I’m looking specifically for them. Although I’m used to RIF which had the same amount of frequency in ad space so I might be slightly biased.
I don’t like that it doesn’t have top comment navigation (or I can’t find it) and when you click on a inbox message it takes you to that message isoalted in a thread, no context. Again, I might be missing something here…
I was literally just realizing that now. I just checked inbox for the first time, and it’s pretty annoying. I would mind less if there was at least the entire comment chain within that top comment, cause I often forget what the hell I even said. I was using jerboa before, and there are features I’m really really missing. Sync would be great for perpetual lurker, but I’m addicted to commenting lol. No post creation also a drag, so I’ll just use sync and jerboa in tandem for now.
I am currently using Sync, and while I agree that the UX is better I can also understand why so many on the Fediverse are against similar apps. They are here because corporations have ruined every other good thing on the internet and non-FOSS is very much associated with big corporations. While I would prefer that Sync were FOSS I also see the reality of Western society and how untenable creating an app would be without some kind of ad revenue. A majority of people are notoriously stingy and donations can only get you so far.
