Historically, I’ve perceived Reddit as slightly left leaning, with strong pockets of conservatives. Recently though, a vast majority of comment sections seem to excuse violence, such as in this thread (TW: police brutality), where people say things like
TW: Supporting violence
The students didn’t hurt the bullets, right?
They paid to learn so… You go learn today
Um…good?
Follow the rules of the people who own the property. If they ask you to leave then leave. Don’t interfere with people’s incomes or you’ll end up finding the fuck out
Got it. The next time I stand on a private piece of grass that I paid 200 grand for the privilege of using, I should expect to be shot at like I deserve. I’ll keep that in mind.
When the owner of the property wants you to move on? Yeah. Move on. Or don’t and find out.
And I’m seriously wondering when Reddit got so bad that the hivemind supports calls for violence. Are these humans? Are they bots? Why does reddit allow this conduct?
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Back in 2012 or so, it was pretty left leaning.
My theory is that if you were really principled, you would have got out of there a long time ago. So what you’ve got left are people who are ok to put up with a shitty status quo, so long as they get their fix. You know, moderates.
I don’t go on reddit anymore, but if it’s full of people who put up with shit, then it’s only natural that the shit started rolling in.
It’s so wild to me that the same people who espouse the second amendment to the constitution completely ignore the first part, where freedom of speech and freedom of assembly are.
If you love the constitution so much, why aren’t you supporting those who are actually exercising their rights?
I’ve been using reddit since 2008 and the idea of any conservative bullshit on there would have been really surprising before 2015. Overall though the amount of generic person stupidity has increased in the past few years. Not that all sports fans are like this, but often i get the stupidest reply from someone - like, close minded, blithely cruel about whatever topic - and look at their profile and the ONLY other thing they’ve commented on is sports.
Then you’re replying to Russian bots…
No, the conclusion would be that they’re replying to me. However I’m quite certain Americans like that exist as well.
Oh, I’m certain that they do exist, but also it’s a known Russian tactic to spread disinformation . https://youtu.be/3X2puLun3-8?si=8mL_b72va5bLn2pL
Sure, I get that. The whole thing is that they imitate legitimate accounts.
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Its a universal tactic, look up Manufacturing Consent, it’s a book but you dont need to read it to grasp how insidious the governmental news machine is instead look at the Wikipedia page
I said, “when will he die already”, referring to Trump? And was permanently banned. “Inciting violence.”
I said, “He should be shot” to a picture of Reagan. Who was shot and lived for two decades after that and was banned for 6 days.
If I can’t say ridiculous things on the Internet where the fuck else am I supposed to say it?
Anecdotally, about three years ago is when I started to pick up on it.
Has Redditc become more right wing or have you become more left wing.
Probably a bit before The Donald was flooding the entire feed.
Probably just your average Russian Trolls/AI bots. May I suggest simply just not subscibing or browsing political/news subreddits/communities? You’re ragebaiting yourself for no reason. Just ignore those areas of the Internet. Your mental health will thank you.
This is the sure-fire solution. Before I left Reddit when the API bs went down (RIP RIF), I had already filtered out all the popular and simipopular political and adjacent subs. It change my Reddit experience and overall frustration levels immediately and all for the better. I still got the news I wanted here and there but without that dumbass antagonistic shithole that’s the comments section. Anyway, good riddance, Reddit.
Lemmy has the same doomscrolling ragebait political bullshit though. So make sure to hide those here too.
Yup, I’ve seen enough posts where bots are clearly reposting (huge) comment chains from older posts to know the place is absolutely crawling with them
Subreddit Simulator wasn’t an experiment, it was a proof-of-concept.
Two things are happening simultaneously Russia/China are trying to spread discontent, and Trumps followers are being told they no longer have to abide by social norms that keeps societies civil.
I believe the uncivil thing just always comes in waves as the people that don’t like change are forced to change and get resentful. Some kind of event happens and resets the floor, or all the people that don’t want to change die off, and things settle down.
And this is the mental framework through which I see the world.
That’s a choice though. Have you thought about biodegradable plastic or some other composite material? Oh not “metal framework” sorry, carry on.
Well, you see in June last year, Reddit decided to make some greedy corporate changes. So in response, tons of principled leftists departed the site. What did yall expect? Same thing happened to Twitter.
I assume it happened around the time most of us left for other places. The fascist community there probably hasn’t grown much in numbers, but as a percentage it increased because the decent people left.
We all left. Who are the people that stayed behind?
Also bots.
Yeah, last time I went back to survey the landscape the more anticorporate/progressive subs I knew were noticeably diminished, while subs that get off on the futility of activism and immutability of power structures were going strong.
I straight up see top comments calling for the death of all black people on front page subs lmao
The last natural, human, popular subreddit to arise on reddit was r/antiwork
After that, the site got swarmed by bots and censorship.
If you try and post something even remotely progressive in a popular subreddit, it will get deleted and you will probably get banned.
So sooo many bots now
It didn’t. Lemmy is ultra liberal so Reddit appears fascist.
Idk, the subs I used to frequent the most have definitely shifted to the right.
Worldnews over there is just a horrendous shitpile of fascism and Hasbara. It used to be way more variable depending on time of day and stuff.
Same as it ever was, only now events have changed. There never was a massive exodus from Reddit, so the opinions you see there are a better representation of the masses than the limited ones you read here.
At most a few hundred people will vote on a post like this. That’s all you really need to know.
Nope, the Israel Palestine occupation has been a thing for decades. Redfit was different in, say, 2014 (another hostage situation) to what it is now.
Personally I think it has a lot to do with the total unleashing of bots and astroturfers, but it’s definitely noticeable to me.
Yeah, I don’t support most of the crackdowns on the protests, but it’s silly to think that people are suddenly fascist for wanting state power to crack down on what they BELIEVE is antisemitism. If I believed that the protesters were doing it more out of weird racist shit than concern for Palestinians, I would want them out too. ESPECIALLY now.
And before you say “well they should know better!” I mean sure, but not everyone has the luxury of spending tons of time analyzing every single piece of news, looking into multiple sources, reading the history of a middle east region the size of New Jersey, etc, etc. What makes it even harder is that Israel and Palestine are ultimately foreign countries, no matter how much of an alliance the U.S has with Isreal, it’s still a country in the middle East.
Then there is the nuance, Hamas are still terrorists and Netanyahu even supported them until October 7th, Israelies were trying to actively get red of the guy until the 7th, the country was set up by the British have both sides fight and hate eachother forever, real antisemitism is rising all over the world and fascists are trying to take advantage of that and connect it to Israel-Palestine. Then Add media bias and how even video footage can be fake with AI and you have a basically completely out of control situation.
Eh the brits were just following the example the Ottoman Empire set.
Source? I’ll admit I’m very new to Israel-Palestine, that’s why I keep quiet about it most of the time, but I felt like speaking up for other people who know even less about the issue would be a good idea here on Lemmy where people seem to have a great deal of knowledge on the subject.
Its not specific to Palestine as it was due to how the Ottoman empire typically left the existing adminstration structures in place when they conquered regions.
Then, many of its sultans used rival groups against each other, typically to their own benefit as both groups jockied for power over the other.
An example whwre this benefitted them was Mehmud(1 or 2), who used two rival groups dislike of each other to make them both weaker and his own position much stronger.
An example of this backfiring on them was the uprising / rebellion of Egypt.
Also, notably, non-muslims(and non-male muslims) were explicitly inferior citizens in the eyes of Ottoman law. They(example: christians and jews) were allowed to make their own communities, but they weren’t seen as equals and would be fair game to be enslaved.
Source: the Ottoman Empire by Kenneth W Harl as well as https://www.britannica.com/place/Ottoman-Empire
Anyone worth a shit left already. It’s full of normies and bots now. The “reddit is a psyop” guy is starting to make sense now.
