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Alternatively: the idea of alternative subcultures being “cringe” and worthy of ridicule, attack and condescending bullying like this rightfully dies out with your generation.
Elder millennial here. Personally I view this as the kind of good natured ribbing that comes from a healthy relationship between an older and younger sibling. I think our generation (and Gen X too) have an overall positive view of Gen Z, but you are out of your mind if you think we’re going to pass up an opportunity to give them some shit when it’s warranted!
Rainmanslim’s comment doesn’t strike me as mean-spirited at all. If anything it’s the opposite of condescending because it acknowledges that the cringiness of being a teenager knows no generational bounds. Embrace it and enjoy it, and then enjoy it again when you’re old enough to laugh at your younger self!
The same “good natured ribbing” between siblings that people constantly mislabel as such even though it’s simply bullying, but “boys will be boys”, eh? Sibling relationships that are built on laughing at each other are not “cute”.
Well, guess what, I don’t want to “laugh at my younger self” some time. And I don’t want you to “give me some shit” when you think it’s warranted either. That’s literally just called bullying, and when someone stands up to that, you probably tell them to “learn how to take a joke”. And that’s exactly the mindset (and kind of people) I hope will die out sooner than later.
I want to be a person I would have been proud of becoming when I was younger. Ridiculing and humiliating people for being vulnerable or expressing themselves leads to the exact kind of political climate we have today, and as a German who is familiar with our history it scares me. The Venn diagram between people who make fun of emos, scene kids, furries or whatever other “cringe” minority of the day in a “good hearted” way, and people who “inadvertently” bully them and drive them to suicide, is probably close to a circle.
You telling me I will laugh at my younger self some day tells me exactly one thing: that you laugh at me presently and assume I will be the same when I “grow up”. Newsflash: I do not speak to those adults anymore that used to tell me these things about my teen ages because they - unsurprisingly - just bullied me and thought I would grow up to be as hateful as them eventually. And I still don’t laugh at myself when I was a teenager. As an adult, I am very much in tune with who I used to be, and all my scene/emo/outcast friends besides.
Mate, that is a whole lot of projection and assumptions in one post. You do you, but I hope someday you learn that being able laugh at yourself is a strength not a weakness.
I prefer to appreciate who I am, who I was, and stick to my values. There’s way more strength in defying people who laugh at you than in joining them and betraying what you once stood for merely to appease them.
The arrogance of telling someone that “someday” I might “learn” to laugh at myself is astounding given that I am probably older than you.
I would prefer to live in a world where nobody laughs at people, and where people are proud who they were, who they have become; instead of constantly looking back in embarrassment and shame.
… Just think what hill you’re willing to die on here. A hill defending the idea of “giving people some shit” (your words) when they dress or act the way you find embarrassing. When did peer pressure like this become a virtue?
Man, if you are in your 40s and still clinging to this idea that you’ve never done anything embarrassing in your life, have never teased a buddy for something stupid they have done, and feel the need to get all self-righteous on me for enjoying friendly banter between strangers then I don’t know what else there is to say here.
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I will just confidently go into the future knowing that I show compassion and you pride yourself on laughing at people. That’s all the future generations need to know about the 21st century.
There is a reason “learn to laugh at yourself” is a recurring quote from many people.
This is all this is, to learn to laugh at your younger self. No one is saying your feelings or thoughts as a teenager are invalid but perspectives and priorities change when you get older and the things that make you feel and act that way will seem trivial and therefore silly.
There is a reason this is a recurring theme between generations. Sorry but your generation is no different. It is not bullying, it is learning to look back at your younger self and see that the difficulties you were facing were relatively trivial even if they didn’t feel that way at the time.
Also please remember your sentiment the next time you see one of these memes “attacking” millennials. Basically the way you’ve formed your argument here is that this meme in this OP is “bullying” millennials.
There is a reason “learn to laugh at yourself” is a recurring quote from many people.
Yes, people who laugh at others expect them to grow into their bigotry. I do not laugh at my younger self. I appreciate who I was, who I am, and who I will become. I am proud of scene kids, emo kids, and all the other “alternative” kids who constantly get told they’ll turn into hateful little old adults some day.
last time I checked the youngest gen z are already young adultsThe youngest gen z are Indeed in the cringe phase, but many are already over that
A quick Google search puts the birth year range for Gen Z between 1997 and 2012, so between ages 9 and 24. That’s like peak teenage years. You have some younger than that, some older than that, but the majority are going to be right in the middle. Plus, as much as 20 year olds like to pretend that that aren’t cringey teenagers anymore, that behavior doesn’t just change on your 20th birthday, it’s a process that happens over time. I’d say I still had cringey teenager tendencies until I was at least 22 or 23.
I’d say what the person above you said is perfectly accurate. Gen Zs are pretty much in peak teenage years right now.
Edit: so I think the article Google gave me was 2 years old. Still, it would put Gen Zs between ages 11 and 26. I think the point still mostly stands.
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Quick question where did you get a time machine from? I did not know they were already invented in 2021. /s
That’s what I get for copying what I saw on Google instead of doing the math myself. I’ll take the L on this one. 😅
It was probably a two year old article that Google used in their “answer”
It was weird back in the 90s in the Midwest when metal heads got called “weirdos” for hanging out in record shops, wearing comfy baggy clothes, and rocking band tees. But then in the early 2000s, sappy, emotional pop rock became the new trend. The same people who used to make fun of metal heads started dressing like that teenager in the picture and hanging out at Hot Topic in the mall. It was ridiculous.
If you’d told me I’d miss 2006 back in 2006 I’d have laughed.
Let the kids have their cringe phase
I’m so sad I never had a cringe phase :(
Alright, fair.
We were copying bands to be edgy. Now explain broccoli.
They’re copying YouTubers and TikTok stars.
What did I do?!
There they are! Get them!
You made all young men shape their hair in your image.
b r o g l e
They are trying. Cut 'em some slack, the age of a common generational culture is dead and they’re doing their own thing as best they can.
Our parents had woodstock/hippies/disco, we had nu-metal and gangsta rap, and they have…whatever they feel like having at the moment.
They’re digging into a fair share you cited too.
I don’t know if Lemmy has the equivalent of r/blunderyears but I’m calling it right now… the next 10 to 15 years are going to be peak embarrassing photo time as zoomers start turning 35 or so and they post their photos when they were late teens or early 20s.
I am so glad I became an adult before widespread use of social media. Worst we had was Livejournal. Plenty of embarrassing emo teen entries on there, but at least there aren’t many pictures.
You’ve just described literally everyone whose fashion ever went beyond jeans and basic shirts. Hell, even some of them have embarrassing haircuts.
The shit I was into in my teens has come back around to popularity again, so whatever. Buck the trend. Be proud of your shame.
I have no idea why the millennial vs gen z debate is trending right now but I just love it
It’s just more divisive bullshit purposely turned into bad memes to catch people’s attention. As usual, it puts people in groups and then encourages disagreement between them. It keeps people from looking up. It’s so stupid.
Besides, Boxxxy is just an e-girl. Where are the differences
The entire generational warfare thing is so frustrating because people pretend as if being “anti-boomer” was some kind of revolutionary act while in reality it’s simply more childish infighting among the working class.
Millennials are old enough to be crotchety old farts now.
Source: am millennial; am crotchety old fart.
Gotta wonder what he looks like now
I could never work up the nerve to talk to these girls, and I don’t think I missed out on much.
Certainly depends on the individual girl, but this style wasn’t called “emo” for nothing. You could have some deep talks with emos.
Obviously, they’re not going to open up to everyone, though, and many of them gladly played a bitch to sieve out all the people not worth opening up to. Seems like you got sieved out…
Those times were so much better, no Karens or women with blue hair and shaved heads.
ah yes, scene/emo, a subculture famously known for not having dyed hair
There were plenty of people with blue hair lmao what are you on
Or are you using blue hair as an alt right dogwhistle?
Don’t know about the western countries. But this is definitely not correct for India
It’s very American lol
I don’t care what anyone says I still think this style is cool and I’m 27 years old. Maybe it’s an Enby/Agender thing though, I don’t know.
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I use Plex and also think it’s cool
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You’re pathetic for copying my joke.
Thanks for your input. I will retract it
You mean you retract my joke.
Apologies. It is now fixed
IT WAS ME! I WAS THE TURKEY ALL ALONG!
I was so attracted to those type of girls when I was in high school.
Unfortunately, they were never into me :(
I still am, but nobody dresses emo anymore. :(
I was so attracted to those type of girls when I was in high school.
In my early 30s. From what I’ve seen, they’ve kind of changed it a bit and ditched the clothes, but I’ve seen them getting into tattoos a lot more.
As a non-tatted guy, who looks totally different from them, they’re still not into me and I’m still into it hahaha
There’s a lot of us actually.
Seek women of your own age instead of high school girls ;)
Scene*
The term “scene” came towards the tail end of that episode of pop culture.
Same thing.
Side note: how in the ever loving fuck did the creators of Invader Zim convince the Nickelodeon execs that it was a “kids show” - and not just once, but for two seasons?
It was the other way around it seems. Nickelodeon wanted that shit
It’s pretty crazy. Jhonen Vasquez’s most notable work previously was literally a comic about a guy who kidnapped people to murder in his basement, so it’s not like they didn’t know what they were in for.
Invader Zim has an episode where he is concerned that a school health inspection will out him as an alien so he begins systematically hunting down the other children and harvesting their organs to stuff inside his own body until he’s a bloated monstrosity.
Nickelodeon Execs: “This is fine.”
The funny thing is that it might have been on the air even longer if the show wasn’t costing so much money. They were recording voice lines for some characters while the actor was suspended from a sort of crane-mechanism. Weird stuff all around.
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Are you talking about the same Nickelodeon that showed Ren and Stimpy and Rocko’s Modern Life?
I’ve been playing the ratchet and clank pc port and one of the voice actors definitely vocied Zim. It’s so distinguishable.
Richard Horvitz is the man! He also did angry beavers, psychonauts, and alpha 5 on the power rangers
He’s also Moxie in Helluva Boss!
Richard Horvitz is indeed in there. Fun fact: he’s also the voice of most of the Alpha robots from Power Rangers.
I’m currently playing Jedi Survivor, and there’s a character that was voiced by the same guy.
Nah nickelodeon had weird shows at the time, Zim was tamer than a few shows, what boggles my mind is that someone in nickelodeon even agreed to TALK to Vasquez given his portfolio, like, some exec in nickelodeon read a bit of JtHM and went “yeah, this guy got something the kids would like”
