Looks like Arrowhead might be moving forward with PSN despite “internal discussions”.
The more confusing thing is a change on February 8th, where they add a Russian edition to their game if I interpret it correctly.
Wonder how we should interpret the country “XD” being on the list. As far as I can tell its never been used for any real country.
XD is Dubai (separate from the United Arab Emirates).
They should start working on a helldivers 3 and self publish it, barely change anything. (assuming they own the ip ofc)
I’m sure they don’t.
Screw it, go make the actual Starship Troopers game not suck. That thing is in dire need of help.
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Will…that was fun.
RIP Helldivers 2.
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Delisted in Puerto Rico, part of the US. Amazing.
Also delisted in parts of loads of EU countries like the Netherlands and France.
Yeah french people are down voting it in mass. I asked for a refund in my steam wallet coin too. I don’t want to hurt steam, only psn
Imagine if palworld devs create a copy of this one among all the ruckus
The actual answer is that everyone should play Earth Defence Force (they just announced EDF 6), which I feel was a big inspiration for helldivers 2 bugs.
You don’t think Starship Troopers may have had an influence on either of those games?
Because there’s actually a couple Starship Troopers games now.
The RTS is awful though.
Oh yeah definitely, Starship troopers is a huge influence to both, I don’t disagree at all, the Starship troopers games seem to be a bit more serious and gritty in comparison to edf though. I’d say the gameplay in helldivers is very EDF also with the huge big swarms and over the top weapons.
I much prefer the extremely deliberate aiming and the heavily physics influenced combat of Helldivers. Just makes it feel a lot deeper than EDF that sort of makes up for that granular detail by instead being extremely arcadey and over the top in its weapons and class abilities.
They play quite differently even though they have some surface similarities, but EDF is indeed also awesome and I wish it was more popular.
I’d be down to give Hellpals a try.
Paldivers?
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Isn’t that just Deep Rock Galactic?
I dunno, I don’t think the game would benefit from flat combat and meanigless crafting grinds.
Yikes
Lmao, this was such a panic reaction by sony that they’ve banned all US territories as well multiple countries where PSN is active.
They are so cooked that this isn’t even funny.
The accounts are so important that you’re willing to lose sales in that many countries?!
To be fair, the game wasn’t supposed to be sold in those countries to begin with. Sony and Valve screwed up the region settings.
But it was, so who is going to take responsibility for it? Is Sony going to back down from the requirement? Is Valve going to refund all those users?
From what I’ve heard Valve is already refunding most everyone who asks for a refund given this controversy.
Honestly, I think Sony is going to be more stubborn than Valve. I saw in another thread where some people were getting approved for their Steam refunds even after passing the 2-hour refund window, so it looks like Valve may already be the first to cave.
Sony’s probably going to continue digging their heels in, though.
Sometimes (almost always) I wish that the refunded money wouldn’t come out of Steams/Valves pocket…
Can confirm, saw one approved refund with 97 hours on the clock.
While 177 countries sounds like a lot, it’s not where the majority of players are. PSN operates in the top 15 countries by GDP and the top 4 by population.
Of course there’s still the question of why they work in so few countries when literally none of their competitors (that I know of) have those limitations.
some huge countries on that list, philippines, pakistan, nigeria, egypt
pretty embarassing
Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia too. Not exactly developing countries.
They are also EU countries. I am not even sure it’s perfectly legal to sell stuff in the EU and not sell to residents of specific countries.
No harm no foul until somebody makes a report I guess.
PSN (PlayStation Network) is available in 73 countries.
It was PSNow (PlayStation Now, their game steaming service) that was only in 19 countries. PSNow was merged into PlayStation Plus as the Premium level package, and is in 30 or so countries.
Strange then that they are now only listed in 18 countries.
That is definitely strange, but might be an overreaction by Valve and not done by Arrowhead.
Edit: Seems it was indeed done by Valve.
Strange then that they are now only listed in 18 countries.
This is accurate. I work at a international company. We will tell a bunch of countries to go fuck themselves since combined, they make like 1% of sales.
I’m not saying it’s right or wrong. I’m just saying it’s a thing many companies do.
I have knowledge on mobile gaming, they do this too.
It doesn’t pay to manage some shitty off brand Android phone’s compatibility issues when your whole country spends less in a month than a half dozen midwestern moms in an evening on the game.
It’s because it’s a Japanese company. I’m not saying this out of racism but because they’re known for being archaic in how they do certain things. Like game modding and work schedules. Their public transit is top fucking notch though.
Their public transit is top fucking notch though.
I’ve been to Japan a few times. Only Tokyo is super accurate with time. Go to any other Japanese city and it’s no different from any other city in the world. Late trains. Buses that are 10 mins late or not even showing.
Can we kill this narrative that Japan is hyper efficient with public transportation?
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That wasn’t in response to my racist comment but in response to the archaic comment. They’re as much archaic in procedure and bureaucracy as they are advanced in tech.
I heard Hitler invented the Volkswagen boat
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Only because we didn’t know better when we were kids.
I think the mistake was ever thinking that one company is “good” while the other is “bad”. Companies are just different flavors of bad once they grow above a size of, well, once they are companies.
I don’t doubt what you’re saying, but you have to admit that this is terrible PR for them.
If the past thirty years of Sony history has anything to say… I’m sure they’re doing this right now:
To be fair there is a lot of speculation that the delisting is actually entirely from steam’s side not sony or arrowhead. Nothing is confirmed of course but the thought is that steam is throwing the kill switch on selling in these countries right now because obviously the publisher hadn’t thought this out and just straight up doesn’t have a plan for it. Valve may be doing this to put extra pressure on the situation drying up sales a little prematurely and more importantly to protect Valve from legal repercussions. Again this is entirely speculation but it makes a lot of sense, Arrowhead and Sony have been pretty quiet.
Same old shit with everything. A company makes a move that users don’t like. The company just ignores all the flak they are getting online. The uproar calms down and then things continue.
We’re seeing this more and more. Windows with ads, Amazon adding ads to their prime video account holders. Spotify moving lyrics to their premium subscription. The past couple of years are shit and companies continue to do whatever the fuck they want.
If Valve did it, which I would expect, that’s a smart move.
The cm’s have literally said it’s Sony. Why would there be speculation that it’s steam?Edit: I misunderstood. I meant that the whole initiative was from Sony. Kroxx was talking about the delisting in specific. I don’t have any info on that.
Yeah I’ve not seen them address the delisting anywhere yet, if you have a link or anything please add it I’m trying to stay as updated as possible on this.
Edit: I also edited the first line, I had written “this” originally and I replaced it with “the delisting” because I can see how it was a little ambiguous before.
To be fair there is a lot of speculation that this is actually entirely from steam’s side not sony or arrowhead.
Oh, that the delisting is Steam side? I thought you meant in general. My bad. I’ll edit that.
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Did they say it is specifically Sony that delisted it in those countries? Where did they say that?
I misunderstood. I meant that the whole initiative was from Sony. Kroxx was talking about the delisting in specific. I don’t have any info on that.
First their drm is based around the assumption that you’re a criminal, and now this. I’m kinda glad I didn’t buy it.
Yeah same, bunch of my friends had been playing it for a week or two, but between the in game story, the season passes and the utterly intrusive DRM, I figured I’ll wait for a good sale at least. Well, guess I’ll be saving 100% on this, now!
I wonder how many times I will have to see a publisher significantly harm their reputation in the PC market in a yolo bet to set up their own ecosystem and store.
I thought Sony had been conservative and decided against it when their first steam releases hit but with this move it seems possible that a Sony PC ecosystem was always in the works and it just wasn’t ready for those original releases. Oh well.
Its also wild how much Stockholm syndrome console players have for their corporate overlords, where they think that having a purchasing decision affecting level change forced on them after purchase is an ok move to make, just because the possibility of it was nestled in the fine print
I didn’t buy it before because it had kernel level anticheat which is incredibly invasive and unnecessary for a PVE game, and now I’m really glad I didn’t buy it.
You dodged a fuckin missile man.
Like a hunter dodging an EAT.
