This question has been around for a while but I’m curious as to your answer
Dress up, go out and to a bar all by myself, meet strangers without worrying about how to get rid of them later.
Go to the nicest sauna in town, spa all day.
Going for a topless walk on the beach at night! It’s the only time I’d feel safe enough to. I’ve been sexually harassed and assaulted enough, starting back when I was a little girl, to know I could never do that normally.
I went swimming in the ocean at night once. I will never do that again.
Why?
Not OP, but a lot of creatures are more active at night and not being able to see them can be very unnerving; especially if they touch you.
At the end its a plastic bag anyway, because our oceans are dead. But the scare is real though!
I’d travel to other countries and explore them by myself (I’d need way more than 24 hours though).
ITT: Women who think only men are dangerous or bad.
It is a lot safer for women to assume a man is dangerous until proven otherwise. I don’t really see a comment that posits that only men are dangerous or bad, but stomp your feet and cross your arms when women tell you their lived experience, it’s a great look.
It’s possible and sensible to acknowledge that people have had bad experiences while also acknowledging sexism, regardless of whether said sexism stems from experience. Prejudice is prejudice.
Saying women aren’t sexist if some men have wronged them is like saying white supremacists aren’t racist if someone from the race they discriminate against stole their car.
I really don’t want to upset anyone by saying this. But I am speaking my truth, my experience, just as you all are speaking yours. Paint me whatever villain you see fit, say whatever denigrating things about me you want. I am a respectful human being who sees all sexes and races as equal, and nothing that anyone says will ever change that. If that somehow upsets you, then I’m sorry you are so far gone.
The problem I have is not that all men are assumed dangerous until proven otherwise, but that no women are.
This isn’t a place for appeal to hypocrisy. “No, u…”
Lesbians are 25% more likely than straight women to be on the receiving end of domestic violence. Women are no more universally saints than men are universally sinners and I’m tired of women pretending they are.
If you’re going to decide whether or not you can trust someone based on nothing but their outward appearance, at least be right.
You don’t see the comments saying that it’s totally ok to just fall asleep at a public beach and whatnot?
Take it as a sign that women experience the world differently than you do.
Statistically, the vast majority of random muggings and assaults are done by men, so I actually think this is fair. As far as this particular scenario goes.
Statistically speaking it’s also men who are majority of victims when it comes to muggings and assaults.
True but irrelevant for this scenario. All men are gone. No victims, no perpetrators. Crime plummets.
Who knows maybe women think ok now I’m top dog around here and start mugging people
I’m pretty sure there is critically important infrastructure technology that is not maintained by all female teams, so probably stuff would fall apart, the world needs all of us. But if it’s more like they suddenly don’t see us for a day, we all still exist but cannot interact in any way? Or they are all also women for that day?
And I can have the day off?
I’m going to the beach to swim and sunbathe nude. Then out for a drink at the bar that’s close enough to walk home from, but not safe enough to walk home from.
Eat, sleep, JO, sleep, etc.
Taking a nice looong relaxing walk downtown in my sluttiest outfit with my girlfriend
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But why?
Because they’d w feel safe enough to and because they WANT TO.
Hypothetically, if the person only liked men, is there even a point to wearing it anymore? Does it cease to even be “slutty” now?
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Guess what, one can dress slutty for their own benefit. It doesn’t have to be in service of anyone or anything other than satisfying the vibe of the moment. Maybe it’s something they have always wanted to try without being the center of attention? Men are so fucked in the head sometimes.
Yeah I agree with everything in this comment except for the unnecessary hostility in the last sentence.
People can be slutty if they want. And people can judge you for being or appearing slutty if they want. It’s up to you to decide how to react to their opinions. If you want to dress slutty, then you shouldn’t care what people think about how you dress because you are just being you. And that’s not a matter of sex-- that’s a matter of self confidence. And you can’t blame your self confidence on other people, because at the end of the day you can’t change other people. You can either change yourself or empower yourself to resist change and forge your own path. It’s your choice.
No need for personal attacks, it was more of a philosophical question, like would the concept of slutty even exist in a practical way anymore if there weren’t any men left.
Also I’m a woman
I mean bisexual and lesbian women would still exist so I don’t see why the concept of being slutty wouldn’t.
I’ll admit I don’t really understand the concept of wanting to dress a certain way but also not wanting anyone to look at you for it? Like, I give a very little fucks about what people think I have gone to the store in my robe (sweats and basic tshirt under) in the winter before. I know damn well people are looking at me and thinking I’m just some trashy bum for it but I don’t really give a fuck I’m doing it for me because it’s comfortable it doesn’t bother me in the slightest that they judge me for it, if anything they’re probably just jealous.
And I feel like the same should extend to women that want to dress in revealing clothing, yeah some people are going to look at you for it. But why does that have to bother you? You’re doing it for you not them
Regardless of what sex they’re into, if they deem an outfit as “slutty” then it’s slutty.
Feel like 24 hours is too little to do anything special with. Would have been a little more interesting question if the timespan would have been longer. A year?
Someone read Sleeping Beauties by Stephen and Own King and just reverse the plot. I think women would handle a world without males a lot better.
There is actually a Sliders episode that raised that question too and how such a society would function.
Endgame snap but the 50/50 split is male/female. So every man is gone for 3 years.
Wasn’t it 5 years
Probably, idk, it’s not like I could find the answer in less time than it took to type this.
Full hair and makeup, sparkly dress that shows a lot, go to a trendy bar with my friends and get blackout ass drunk without worrying about protecting my drink all night and knowing I can walk home by myself.
In the morning I would nurse the hangover while ordering the biggest ass teddy 🐻 bear 🐻 that will fit through my door as a memento.
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Umm wtf? What kind of Rosemary’s Baby shit is this?
It isn’t. If you’ve ever been raped in your sleep, by someone, then you’d understand. My husband knew that his half brother’s dad raped me in my sleep when visiting our apartment years ago. I thought my son was my husband’s son. My husband later told me what happened to me that night.
I went to sleep, and my husband let that person into our apartment to hang out. At some point, the guy found his way to our bedroom where I was already asleep, because I had to go to work the next morning. Apparently, my sort of situation isn’t that rare.
I can’t fathom how a husband can know his wife has been raped but do nothing and say nothing about it. Did he sit and watch? How does he know it happened if not? Where was he when this happened? How did he justify not telling you? Why would he not report this crime? How has this rapist not been held accountable, by your husband at least? If I knew with certainty someone raped my wife the police would be involved immediately. If there were some details that meant we couldn’t get the authorities involved, I’d mete out some violent justice myself assuming the rapist isn’t going to report me since he doesnt want the authorities involved either.
The guy who did it was related to the chief of police, who is now the mayor of the city in which my husband and I resided. I also learned that the man who raped me is related to me. My mother is trying to cover it all up now, and wants me to shut up about it. I know it doesn’t seem reasonable, but dna testing would really support what I’m saying.
What in the fuck did I just read.
Yep. Obscenities and anger. That is usually the type of responses I receive when trying to address this issue. It is usually male commenters that want me to shut up, and are trying to make me remove my comment. I hope your girlfriend or wife doesn’t have this same experience involving being violated in her sleep. Perhaps with someone like you, as a partner, she will just be forced to keep it to herself, even if you witnessed the assault occur. Oh well. Not my problem, I guess. I’m just another Lemmy reader who doesn’t want to see that happen to another woman. Don’t mind me.
One person equating their personal experience to everyone. Clearly not realising that within the next 24 hrs the guys will get back, see the results and dump at least 1/5th of their unfaithful partners.
How heavy of a sleeper do you have to be to not get awaken by rape? Wtf
Also, I wouldn’t ever recommend those online ancestry sites. Even they claim that the stuff is for entertainment only. Go to an actual geneticist doctor to get tested.
The guy who did it used to brag that he could put his dog to sleep by holding down its jugular, usually in a headlock, until it passed out. He use to brag about this, in an addition to all of the Krav Maga he knew. I don’t exactly know what happened to me. All I know is, I was asleep. I’m grateful for my son. I love my son very much. It’s just often awkward to explain to people who weren’t there when that happened. I usually just keep it to myself. My husband use to make comments about it all the time. In fact, when my son was born, he kept complaining that NJ (the guy’s initials for anonymity here), should be there at the hospital. He hadn’t explained what happened to me, at that point, so I was really confused. Why would I want my brother in law’s dad there, right?
Anyway, I usually give up on explaining it to other people, because it’s usually met with a lot of angry disbelief. I usually tell people if they don’t believe me, they can just go ask my husband. Unfortunately, all of aftermath of my son’s birth led to us separating multiple times. I want court ordered dna tests, but I have no idea where NJ is, and I have been told that NJ is not even the name that is on that guy’s actual birth certificate. When my son eventually takes a test like ancestry.com’s dna test, it will link his paternal relatives to him. Through that, everyone will eventually realize it was NJ that made him, even if NJ is probably not in the ancestry.com system with his own dna sample.
Along with those sites not being accurate, they have given the dna up to law enforcement. So it’s also an invasion of your entire family’s privacy once you submit those tests. Anyways, if you go to an actual doctor, you just need to compare your husband’s and your child’s blood, you don’t need NJ’S blood.
No, my husband isn’t their dad. He and I already established that. I don’t think you understand what I am trying to explain. Please read my original comment.
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That’s not how any of this works.
Anything I’d otherwise do.
Those who are currently in a bus or airplane would probably die.
I believe that less than it looks like.
While only 5% of the pilots are women, flight attendants receive basic training for emergency situations, such as when the pilot is incapacitated. I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of them could actually land a plane in a life-and-death situation, or at least find a passenger who can.
With buses the picture is a bit brighter. If I had to guess, 20% of the bus drivers around the world are female? And a missing driver doesn’t automatically spells your death - the bus might be going slow due to traffic, and a lot of people are able to at least step on a brake.
EDIT: I’m genuinely curious about the downvotes. If I said something that is either factually wrong (false) or morally wrong (sexist, insensitive, etc.), feel free to point out, as I can’t guess anything based on downvotes alone.
Alternatively, if the downvotes are due to a faulty reasoning, then please show the flaw.
Yeah but what percentage of air traffic controllers are women? Those that are will have to coordinate a lot more landings than usual.
Also, if you have a driver’s license, you probably know enough to safely stop a bus even if your license is for personal vehicles only. And while I don’t know the numbers, I’m pretty sure the percentage is much higher.
Yup. The main concern in the bus situation is how suddenly the driver disappeared vs. reaction time of the passengers. If it’s sudden enough, and the bus is fast enough, even if all passengers were able to drive it, odds are that it’ll still crash.
Flight attendants won’t be landing anything without flight controllers. Especially in busy airports like Heathrow. Even if you leave men pilots in place and only remove men traffic controllers, all the planes will crash.
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That’s why I said “probably”.
We should look at air traffic control as well… I know it’s viewed as a mostly male job, but I have no idea what the percentages are.
Also do the men magically reappear where the plane was?
Weeeeeeeeeeeee……
Also do the men magically reappear where the plane was?
It’s raining men…
About 90% of pilots are men.
Goin for gasps and got one from me lol
Relax?
Shitting with the bathroom door open.
Whats stopping you?
My wife does then gets moody at me when I walk past and see her. I should tell her to cut the crap.
With the
poopcrap knife?Isn’t that why the scientific name for the anus is turd cutter?
I thought the scientific name was birthday hole.
TIL
Never heard this one. Plz explain.
His wife lets him stick his penis in her asshole on his birthday.
Or his wife pegs him on his birthday.
Lucky guy.
Read this in Rodney Dangerfield voice
I KNEW IT!
Chilling with bears, if I understand recent events correctly.
I think I missed this, what is being referred to here?
Viral hypothetical “would you rather spend a night in the woods with a bear or a man”. Toxic men getting butthurt when women chose the bear
That entire question was just pure rage bait from the start, without even resulting in any useful data
To whoever asked the question in the first place, I congratulate you for comming up with the perfect rage bait question.
I googled “congestulate” to see if there was any chance that was an actual word
Typoman, typoman does whatever a typoman does, especially on mobile while on a bus
That entire question was just pure rage bait
Isn’t that the point though? The fact that the question was asked and rather than think “shit, could we be better?”, some men are literally seething with anger about it?
I imagine that black men view the question as particularly insulting
Because we live in a country that already perceives black men as animals.
So seeing so many women recently affirm that perception likely is extremely isolating. Because this is the sort of ideology that gets black men murdered
why would black men find a thread full of comments about women fearing for their safety to be insulting?
Because white tears cause black scars. As Emmitt Till found out
When men are seen as threats, this translates into the murder of men, particularly those who are in national minority groups. Black, brown, immigrant, Muslim, etc men are threatened by this type of discourse, at least within the United States
Which is kind of what BLM was all about - that black men are just people and are not dangerous super predators like many white people, including white women, seem to think
America might see black men as animals, but I don’t think the UK is quite there yet. Also, the question doesn’t mention race or skin tone, so I’m not sure how we got there.
The UK does not have a good history on race. Or on welcoming immigrants. Hence Brexit. And, also, the entirety of the British Empire.
The human brain has an ability to understand implicit narratives without a thing needing to be explicitly stated. If you ask a person to imagine a dangerous and strange man, I very much doubt that most Western people are honestly going to imagine a man that is white. Which is what this question is actually all about
I get what you mean, but mostly disagree, the options given as the answer is too broad.
I mean, if the man was in the forest to pick berries, and focusing on that and the bear was a female bear with cubs, the situation is completely different from a man wearing a mask and sunglasses staring at the woman and a black bear crossing the path to go and sleep.
The question is too generic to draw any usable conclusions from.
The best response to seeing the answers would have been for men to just ignore it, or say that they are sad to learn the results but that the question is mostly meningless
And yet, given how broad the possibilities are, women are still choosing the bear.
This is still a purely theoretical choise, and since they won’t face any immediate consequences from their response, they might as well use the question for their own shock factor to try and make a point.
I wonder if all women who actually had to choose between getting into a forrest alone with a bear nearby or get into a different forrest alone with a man nearby would actually pick the bear.
But I hope that no one ever has to make this choice.
Men-ingless 🧐
It would depend on the man surely? And possibly the bear, now thinking 🤔
I would take any human over a fucking bear. It’s a bear. It is far more adapted to the woods than I am. At least with another human I have some chance. Jesus how are you people not terrified of a animal thathas claws, can climb trees, can outrun you, is stronger than you, and is a predator when presumably you would have nothing resembling a weapon on you.
The difference is, the bear doesn’t want to attack you.
You don’t know that.
You also don’t know the man does want to attack you.
I don’t know how you determined any of that.
It’s toxic to not want to be treated like a monster for something I didn’t do?
Women were talking about men in general. Some men took it as though they specifically were being targeted. If women don’t feel comfortable running alone at night because men can be predators, men in general should listen. When I hear that, I don’t take offence. I’m with you, I’ve never done anything. But we should be trying to figure out ways that women can feel more comfortable around men. Women shouldn’t need to feel like they have their guard up, and listening is the first step.
I am listening, and what I’m hearing is that I, as an innocent person, am a source of terror for someone I’ve never met because of a fact of my biology that I have no control over. I have no ability to change the feelings of someone else, because no matter what, those feelings are only able to be changed by the person feeling them. I can say I’m innocent and not a threat until I’m blue in the face, I can act as non-threatening as I possibly can, I can leave women alone in public. None of that matters because I’m not the one with the power over those feelings.
You say you’re listening but all you’re hearing is how what is being said affects you.
You appear to see yourself as a victim. This makes you more dangerous than a bear.
The bear won’t take a women’s fear of it personally. It will want to avoid confrontation.
You will definitely take it personal. You appear willing to confront them for their fear. You will demand they not be afraid of you, because you are innocent. The scenario is one of a thousand reasons they choose the bear.
A bear isn’t trying to find a dating partner in a human woman…
You’re sick in the head if you think being depressed over being labelled an existential threat makes me dangerous.
Are you fucked in the head? I am a man and I take no insult to this. In fact I agree, I would also rather be in the woods with a bear than with a random man. Imagine it differently for a second to maybe gain some perspective. Would you rather spend the night in the forest or in jail with the scariest ass don’t drop the soap motherfuckers and no guards? That’s basically what this question is like for women. A bear is generally just going to ignore you.
No. You’re not a source of terror. But people don’t know that. They just see a man. The issue isn’t with you, it’s with common experiences women have had with men.
There are so many bears that don’t hurt humans. But humans carry bear spray just in case the one they encounter is dangerous.
The issue isn’t with you, it’s with common experiences women have had with men.
And that’s exactly the problem. I’m not those men. I have no intention of acting like those men. Yet I’m still scared that I’m going to get pepper sprayed anyway just for asking a woman for directions.
Whites were talking about blacks in general. Some black people took it as though they specifically were being targeted. If white people don’t feel comfortable running alone at night because blacks can be predators, black people in general should listen. When I hear that, I don’t take offence. I’m with you, I’ve never done anything. But we should be trying to figure out ways that whites can feel more comfortable around blacks. Whites shouldn’t need to feel like they have their guard up, and listening is the first step.
Every time you hear a claim about women/men replace with white and blacks, if you sound like a racist asshole, then you’re being a sexist asshole. This also applies for other stuff, including just reverting roles, if just by doing that you’re able to make your argument sound straight from the KKK, you know it’s a bad argument.
That’s not to say that women shouldn’t feel like that, or that there isn’t a problem in our society, but the same can be said about white/black situation. The difference is that most people (at least non racist assholes) understand that a higher criminality among black people has nothing to do with their skin tone, and is instead a consequence of historical factors perpetuated by social injustice, so they understand why generalized statements such as the one you made are problematic. But with the men/women people in general think it’s different, they think that men are inherently more violent or whatever, so their broad statements get less judgement, let’s not forget that up until recently that was also the general consensus about race as well.
In short if you do broad generalizations like that you ARE being an asshole, and people will feel attacked. And what’s worse is that those people are more likely to then align with someone who opposes your views which oftentimes means right wing Nazis just because they’re not attacking them.
lol that doesn’t make any sense. Why would you replace something with something completely different and expect it to work the same ?
Because at its core your argument is “group of people X feels threatened by group of people Y, but group Y should listen and not feel attacked if someone from group X tells them group Y is dangerous”. Replacing group X and Y by any group of people should give you an idea of why this is a bad argument. In other words I’m just applying analogical reasoning to your argument to showcase that in an analogous situation the same argument would be considered aggressive.
Granted, it’s not always possible to substitute groups, but if your counterargument is that the substitutions are not analogous you need to present evidence of why that is the case. In other words, why do you think this argument applies to women who are afraid of men but not to whites that are afraid of blacks.
If Christians don’t feel comfortable getting on a plane because Muslims can be terrorists, Muslims in general should listen.
No one thinks you’re a monster. We simply don’t know if you are one. Women’s safety is more important than your feelings, period.
Women’s safety is more important than your feelings, period.
Which is how Emmitt Till was murdered
Because this logic is mainly used to target and murder black and brown men, and always has been in the United States
Nobody said the man is you bro…
“It’s okay, you’re one of the good ones. Not like those uppitty n******.”
Yes, you’re a man, so you should suffer because equality, hurr durr. And you’re a misogynist if you say something. And you’re a racist if you point out it’s the same as saying “black people are [insert stereotype here]”.
Welcome to online interactions of the latest decade! Luckily I don’t encounter this hostility for having been born with a penis in real life, otherwise I’d probably just gone and killed myself, it’s unpleasant enough being the public enemy online.
But hey, everything’s fair when it comes to
revengeequality!The tables have turned my friend O.o
But seriously I hardly notice this stuff, and females have historically been treated miserably
femaleshave historically been treated miserably*People not born into wealth and power
FTFY
Yes, but women get treated worse.
Yea like the brother never inherited the family business, and the brother was sold off to a rich older lady to marry, or the brother for goes university in place of his sister, the brother having a bastard child meant he was ostracized from the family and sent to a Catholic nunnery to learn the ways of god.
Women have historically been repressed through out many culture in history and even to present wealth be damned.
So were men. And children. And everyone in between, unless they had money. We’re not living in a patriarchy and haven’t for quite a few millennia. It’s the rich ruling the poor.
. <— the point
X <— you
You are taking the bait, this question was never about the actual answers, but rather the male response to being told that we men pose a risk to women, this question was just asked to generate responses from men, proving their point that men are angry and dangerous.
