Even if it was all gamers, that’d push a lot of companies to care about Linux a whole lot more. Venn diagram of people who spend a lot of money in tech stuff and people who play games is almost a circle nowadays.
I’ve worked in server-side systems development for over a decade, in all sizes of company, and Linux has been ubiquitous on the server side for ages: it’s simply the most problem free way of maximizing the hardware you have, not to mention cheaper (both upfront and TCO).
It’s only on the desktop that it’s not.
I meant companies that make apps for desktop, like Adobe.
Yup, outside of the desktop, Linux rules the world.
I don’t even think Valve really care about Linux. At least not in the same way that Linux users care about Linux.
They just care about getting the costs of Steam Deck down, and don’t want MS to go mental and pull the rug from under their business model.
I’m surprised by how much of my Steam library would work on the Deck, tbh. Out of nearly 1300 games, 407 are verified, and 931 are verified and playable. Be nice if you could stream the rest (either from your own PC or an external provider), but Geforce Now showed that was a minefield (I suspect due to exclusive streaming rights already being to sold to someone else) and publishers freaked the fuck out, despite it being none of their business where I run my purchased games.
Valve has been pro linux and anti-windows way before steam deck… did people forget about the Steam machines?
They care about Microsoft not 100% controlling access to the platform Steam customers use. Valve cares about Linux because they need an escape strategy if Microsoft ever locks them out.
I thought they were going that way with Windows 11 S that prevented you using anything other than the MS Store, but it turns out you can just switch S mode off.
It would be mental for MS to do it. Their desktop dominance hinges entirely on people still being able to run the last 30 years or so of wonky old software.
S mode is in 10 also. I work for a MSP that recommends virtual desktops to our clients, so we often have to help users connect from their home PCs. It wasn’t a ton, but enough people were locked in S-mode we all had practice walking them through disabling It, because it blocks our remote control app also if in s made.
I’ve only found 2 games out of my library so far that don’t work
You can stream from your own PC. They have remote play and Steam Link for android.
Also works for Reddit vs lemmy user count
I like to think we are in fact happier here than on Reddit.
So uncanny that in the Ubuntu bug tracker, bug #1 is Microsoft & bug#2 simply does not exist.
Who does Number 2 work for?
Doin my linux gaming thing since 2013
As a Linux user, fuck off and die completely.
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Linux is life
Linux is Shrek?
Knowledge is power.
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France is bacon
Does SteamOS count as Linux? How about Android?
Yes, SteamOS does count as Linux. Android does not. The Android and iOS Steam app is just for social features / store, not for playing games so neither show up on the survey.
SteamOS Holo, which is what the Steam Deck uses, makes up 42% of the Linux systems in the survey results.
Wow 42% is actually a lot less than I had imagined
Which OS is #2 then? MacOS is now behind Linux.
Windows 11 is #2
😬
Does SteamOS count as Linux?
Why wouldn’t an Arch branch not be Linux?
How about Android?
Completely irrelevant because Steam games don’t run on Android.
There is a Steam app for Android so I figured that would count…
The Android and iOS apps don’t actually run games, they’re essentially just the store and community tabs + SteamGuard. The hardware survey explicitly exists to tally up what kinds of hardware is actually being used to play games on Steam, so that’s why it’s not counted.
I’d say it counts as general user base, but does not count towards the Steam survey.
If Android share counts towards Linux gaming in general, then I think “Linux” as a whole (not necessarily versions or derivatives of Linux that users have the choice to install on their device themselves, however) wins handily. That’s because billions of people are all playing Clash of Legends of Heroes of Genshin Tower Puzzle Blocks Crash Deluxe, or whatever the fuck, on their Android phones.
Why wouldn’t an Arch branch not be Linux?
Because it’s Valve’s own OS. They might consider being first-party sufficient reason to not to lump it in with its third-party cousins.
Because it’s Valve’s own OS.
Still a regular GNU/Linux distribution. Even entertaining the idea it being anything else is ridiculous.
Even entertaining the idea it being anything else is ridiculous.
It’s their own OS running on their own custom handheld. Treating it separately from other linux machines might be odd, but calling it “ridiculous” is being childish.
It’s based upon the well established distro Arch, and thus still considered Linux. A distro is basically the Linux kernel with pre-installed packages. SteamOS only adds another layer of packages unto Arch afaik.
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Yes, I know how Linux works.
The poster above asked for a reason why steamOS might be considered separately to other sisters, and I gave them a possible one.
The terminology is off then. Different distro’s is not regarded as entirely new OS’s, they’re still Linux. E.g. SteamOS (if anything) is Steam’s distro, not Steam’s OS. I’m not trying to nitpick, only explain.
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This, but desktop linux users are on the step for 193rd place while excitedly screaming and holding a third-place sign. Steamdeck users are on the 3rd-place step while calmly playing their deck.
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You’re an idiot
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Not really, it’s closer to 50/50
I stand by the meme even if I can’t stand by the statistics in it.
I’m in this comment, and I’m okay with that.
It’s the year of the Linux desktop, y’all! Woohooohooo! Yeah! Rock on!
Fuck yeah! Just like last year!
Fwiw I’m in it too. I’m not going to say what year was the year of Linux on the desktop for me, but it wasn’t a meme yet. And I’ve continuously run an actively used Linux desktop (or mostly laptop) since, often at work but always at home. I unironically prefer it to Windows and Mac, which I also also daily drive and consider to be worse in most ways that matter to me.
I think desktop Linux gamers are right to cheer for the Steamdeck, as its success translates quite directly to an improved gaming experience on desktop Linux. So yeah, the reason this meme is so clear to me is because I see it in the mirror each morning.
It wasn’t a meme yet? So like… 30+ years ago?
It wasn’t a meme yet? So like… 30+ years ago?
- The phrase hadn’t been coined yet in 1993.
- I said what I said.
So like 30+ years ago.
I gotta tell you guys, I’ve been a console gamer for four decades but I bought a Steam Deck last year. I have enjoyed the experience so much that I’m building a PC for gaming. It will be a Linux machine.
For personal use, I run a Linux PC, but for work I have to use Windows as my daily driver, and I still absolutely cannot stand Windows. Recently, I’ve had more issues with Windows installations than Linux ones. Which is ironic, considering everyone is always shitting on Linux for not offering the same out-of-the-box usability Windows does.
My God instaling Windows is the most horrific thing that exist. There are arch installers that are more user Friendly. The only reason pepole dont complain about it is beacuse Windows comes preinstaled on everything.
Also weirdly enough i had more problem with my nvidia gpu on windows rather than Linux (where the sensible distributions come with drivers preinstaled)
I use Windows, MacOS, and Linux everyday but my primary desktop has been Linux since I moved from OS/2 in I think 1996 or so. I have been a Linux user since 1992.
I have not really been a gamer since the StarCraft days though.
… since I moved from OS/2 in I think 1996 or so.
Quitters never win. Warp is the OS of the future, we just haven’t gotten there yet.
It’s the year of the Linux
desktop, handheld y’all! Woohooohooo! Yeah! Rock on!Wait, I think that already happened with Android.
It’s the Year of the Linux Handheld squared, then. We win twice.
Look out, we’ve got a 3%er here.
Is that before or after Steam Deck users? Would it be higher than 1.96 if we included steam deck in the count?
After steam deck.
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I think it does matter, from what I’ve gathered including the steam deck would likely up the percentage significantly due to being essentially a Linux only machine.
People are installing Windows 11 en-masse on that Steam Deck!
No they aren’t
Okay, people are uploading videos of their successful Windows 11 install on YouTube, Reddit and the Steam community en-masse, followed by complaining it doesn’t run well lmao
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I like this meme format
I wish I had his energy tbh
As much as #3?
Wait, If Windows is 96.21% and Linux is 1.96%, then MacOS is 1.83%?
Wouldn’t that make Linux 2nd place?
Before opening the comments, I spent several seconds contemplating if I should mention this, or if people would think I was some pedantic nerd dickhead and downvote me to hell. Glad someone else already covered this.
We still think you’re a pedantic need dickhead, but we upvote you for that!
Yeah, I contemplated mentioning it too, knowing I might come off as pedantic, but figured what the hell. Others must have noticed too, right?
su root
Dude you are “root”, you can do anything here! So don’t waste time thinking next time, just (su)do!
Pedantic / thread about Linux. You’re safe, cuz.
lol, this is the only reason I came in here.
It’s OK this was cause OP has the permissions for it
This is a post from the future, after MacOS temporarily jumps to a whopping 2% after it gets its yearly single port of a 5 year AAA old game.
I actually love the irony of this meme, as that’s exactly what happened haha
Math don’t add up, Linux would be second because whatever else would only have 1.83.
Second place baby!
But second place wasn’t looking so saucy like the medal biting guy
