I constantly see angry mobs of people decrying “woke”, “critical race theory”, ““grooming””, and whatever other nonsense they made up this week. They march around with guns, constantly appending lib as a prefix to any word they can use to denigrate. They actively plot violence and spew hatred in the open.
You never see the inverse. There is no ConservativesofTiktok getting churches harassed into shutting down for the day or calling in threats. You don’t see cringey boomer memes on the left. And whenever I openly express those feelings, try to create that sentiment; I get shut down. Noone agrees, I’m often shamed and muted. I just don’t understand why that parity exists, it’s extremely isolating to feel so alone in this
I do hate them, but I’m secure enough that I don’t need to make adversarialism my identity.
Have you seen half the liberal posts on here? I have never seen such hatred for another political party in my life
Because liberals aren’t assholes?
“Conservatives” are just liberals either openly flirting with fascism or simply are fascists pretending not to be fascists. They don’t hate their fellow right-wingers (yes, liberalism is right-wing ideology) - they are goading their fellow liberals into either joining them, or, at least, remaining quiet while they hand more and more power to fascists.
I think this is us convervative/liberal. like bernie sanders is a liberal in the us.
I think this is us convervative/liberal.
Yes. It is.
It doesn’t matter where you are… liberalism is purely a right-wing ideology - there has never been anything “leftist” about it. It’s very easy to check for yourself - simply try and find an anti-capitalist liberal.
You’re going to be looking for a long, long time.
why would I look for that. That is the extreme. left does not star way on the left more than right starts way on the right. Its like saying someone is not right unless they are against any social program or public property of any kind.
That is the extreme
No. It isn’t.
Being pro-capitalist is extreme… which means being liberal is extreme by default - it has merely been so normalized for you that you don’t actually see how batshit insane it truly is.
Its like saying someone is not right unless they are against any social program or public property of any kind.
Do you require me to explain to you what left and right actually mean? I’d be happy to do so - and I can guarantee you that it will be perfectly painless.
The right wing has a long history of real repression. Think slavery, segregation, Jim Crow (simply saying it doesn’t do it justice), voter suppression, KKK, mob violence, etc. As much as I hate to realize it, they were fundamentally built on violence and hate. It’s never left them. Especially the mentality, which is “my way or violence”.
This is also why they project the left is violent. Because they are, so they assume everyone else is too. So they try to portray left groups as violent. Same with having an agenda. They have one, so they assume everyone else has one too. It’s all projection.
I honestly don’t think there’s much of a difference between these groups. Both have lots of people hating the guts of another group. And both are substantially radical in views. This all is just crazy
Hate requires you to consider them first competent with shared common values that inform their beliefs and actions. Otherwise it’s mostly pity and disgust that they have no values other than authority and loyalty like a criminal enterprise, and usually can’t tell if they are being evil on purpose or by accident/inaction/ignorance.
Let me help you, its always all on purpose. They are as deep as the hostile npcs in a video game and worthy of even less moral consideration
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Liberals are conservatives, they hate leftists.
Propaganda. For decades the conservative radio hosts have been vilifying democrats constantly and most of the time for no reason at all. It has slid into television as well but they started with radio a long long time before that.
most of the time for no reason at all
Not for no reason. It’s a form of control. If you genuinely believe that the opposing party is going to bring the country to ruin, you’re a lot less likely to consider their position in politics.
Look at the affordable care act. Conservatives hated/hate it because “obamacare” was portrayed as giving free health care to the lazy poor that you have to pay for as a hard working conservative. When asked if we should repeal Obamacare, conservatives poll something crazy like 95% yes, simply because it’s a bad word they learned.
Many of those conservatives have health care through the ACA and get mad when Republicans take it away because they need it. Those same conservatives mostly aren’t even aware that what they have is literally obamacare.
It’s control all the way down.
This is the broadest stroke I can make of it:
Conservatives decisions are based on instincts and lower brain functions like fear and hatred.
Liberals decisions are based on marginal benefit and rational decision making based on a combination of large and small scale unbiased data and historical outcomes.
There are tons of outliers and vocal minorities that break the rule, but basically a conservative thinks a liberal should face eternal punishment, while a liberal thinks they’re not fit to judge a conservative.
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I’ve never insulted the act of sucking cock, nor even assumed your gender. The insult that went unnoticed was that I called you a sub for a dictator, lmao.
Didn’t Xi Jinping literally start shutting down LGBT centers and clubs almost a decade ago? He has a by definition anti-LGBT policy stance across all of China.
Because we have elderly people in our life that we care about and they weren’t monsters when we were young. Think of how much effort it would take you to objectively look at ideas your grandparents held/hold and what it says about them. I know I can’t do it. I can’t see my grandfather as a person who used to refer to homosexuals with a word I won’t repeat. The man who took me on so many hikes and fishing trips? No way.
Now extend it. Do you really want to go through your life thinking everyone passed a certain age is a terrible person? So evil becomes misguided.
The reverse of course isn’t true. No one gives a shit about a 30 year old. They ain’t cute and they are starting to run stuff.
You’re letting your heart get in the way of the mind. I got to enjoy knowing my grandparents abused my parents. My maternal side in particular revelled in spewing hate at demographics including myself and abandoning all the values they claimed to hold dear for their pentacostal magat cult. Needless to say I do not have the same issue.
Regardless. If you really care about defending people’s rights, you need to be able to look people like your grandparents in the eye and say “No, you’re wrong, and should suffer for it”.
And old people arent cute, not sure where you got that
Well a. Mind are dead b. If they were alive I wouldn’t do that c. I don’t got to do anything
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If it makes you feel any better I’m on your side and I get the same whiny milquetoast doormat bullshit from liberals. They think they can get power to abdicate itself by begging, and they think violence is barbaric despite it being the only way things have ever progressed anywhere.
Cold confort knowing we’re a minorty and Ill very possibly have to seek asylum by new years
Conservatives make politics their identity, and hate everyone that doesn’t also identify as them. Most other people realize that’s stupid, they just want a better life.
Seems everyone these days makes politics their identity, left and right. And center.
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A table with 11 people, including a nazi, is a table with 11 nazis.
Don’t compare choosing to not sit at that table with the bullshit republicans do.
“Enlightened” centrism is not the answer…
Never has been, never will be.
The billionaire-owned media will continue to insist otherwise as long as we allow for billionaires to exist, though…
That’s because “centrist” is just what conservatives call themselves when they are too embarassed to admit they are conservatives.
Definitely not.
The parties differ not so much in their (propagated) goals, but in the methods they are prepared to use.
Nah man, the goals are further apart than the methods are. At this point I’m not even interested in hearing your justification. If you can’t see it, you’re blind.
points at trans youths
Yea uh… the goals are definitely fucking different. Let’s not fall back into that old rhetorical trap of being fair and balanced.
Saw a cartoon years ago. Panel 1 = “How Democrats See The World.” It’s a globe with the USA divided into Red States and Blue States. The rest of the countries are pink/green/orange except for a few black spots with a skull and crossbones marked ‘Terrorists.’
Panel 2 = “How the GOP Sees the World…” Same globe, except there are only two colors; the Red States and everything else is “Terrorists.”
In Germany, there is a conservative/far-right party that actually sees things that way. The AfD, the self-proclaimed “Alternative for Germany” (literally the spiritual successor to the NSDAP, the party of Adolf Hitler) once posted this picture on Facebook:
It shows a map of Germany, divided in two parts. The east, where the AfD has many supporters labeled as the Federal Republic of Germany, and the West where the AfD has been losing many elections labeled as an islamic Caliphate. These Nazis actually think that half of Germany is controlled by migrants and islamists. This insane view of the world is so fucked up, I can’t really describe it. Fun fact: An AfD member of the German parliament has been caught accepting large sums of money from RuSSia. Their MPs repeatedly traveled to RuSSia during the invasion of Ukraine, including the illegally annexed Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea. They also think that RuSSian elections are totally legit and Putin the war criminal has been legitimately elected by the RuSSian people. Their MPs also work for the Chinese intelligence service btw: https://lemmy.world/post/15121591
Back in the day, the Soviets overtly backed Leftist positions across the world. They ended up empowering the Far Right by giving them a concrete enemy. Former KGB operative Putin reversed it; he’s been supporting the Right to undermine the West for years.
the West where the AfD has been losing many elections labeled as an islamic Caliphate
Real “stay mad” energy.