Summary:
Democrats are becoming increasingly concerned about a possible drop in Black voter turnout for the 2024 presidential election, according to party insiders. The worries arise from a 10% decrease in Black voter turnout in the 2022 midterms compared to 2018, a more substantial decline than any other racial or ethnic group, as per a Washington Post analysis. The decline was particularly significant among younger and male Black voters in crucial states like Georgia, where Democrats aim to mobilize Black voter support for President Biden in 2024.
The Democratic party has acknowledged the need to bolster their outreach efforts to this demographic. W. Mondale Robinson, founder of the Black Male Voter Project, highlighted the need for Democrats to refocus their attention on Black male voters, who have shown lower levels of engagement. In response, Biden’s team has pledged to communicate more effectively about the benefits that the Black community has reaped under Biden’s administration, according to Cedric L. Richmond, a senior advisor at the Democratic National Committee.
However, Black voter advocates have identified deep-seated issues affecting Black voter turnout. Many Black men reportedly feel detached from the political process and uninspired by both parties’ policies. Terrance Woodbury, CEO of HIT Strategies, a polling firm, suggests that the Democratic party’s focus on countering Trump and Republican extremism doesn’t motivate younger Black men as much as arguments focused on policy benefits. Concerns are growing within the party that if they fail to address these issues, disenchanted Black voters might either abstain or, potentially, be swayed by Republican messaging on certain key issues.
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I always viewed Biden as the lemon I suck on to cleanse my palette between courses, now they want the lemon to be the whole damn meal.
fuckin find a decent nominee then
You mean like one that already beat Trump once?
Maybe one that isn’t older than average life expectancy already let alone after another term. Just an idea.
Cool, if that candidate showed up in 2020 I would have voted for them. As things stand I’ll go with the most viable one that’s most likely to defeat fascism. That means the incumbent, Biden. I don’t care if he’s elderly.
I mean, I agree. If I were from the US I would also be voting for Biden. But it’s a really sad state of affairs there isn’t a better option. The system is ridiculous.
As an American, I’ll be the first to talk about the inadequacies in our electoral system, especially for President. However, I don’t think the tradition of incumbents getting the ‘benefit of the doubt’ and skipping a primary are a problem. They also aren’t part of the ‘system’, that is entirely the choice of the DNC. Presidents are limited to two 4 year terms, so why not run back-to-back? It works most of the time.
The rest of the system is fucked.
The DNC choosing the candidate is absolutely part of the overall system. If that’s how it works, that’s how it works.
Which, is ridiculous. Maybe it makes sense this term but the fact he ran last time also makes no sense to me.
A country of 300 million people and the senile are in charge, like dude there are far better people for that job, just retire already.
Is that ageist? Yes and I stand by it. People over 70 and certainly those over 80 are in mental decline. This is just the reality. Why have a leader in mental decline? Absolutely wild to me it really is.
Can’t defeat fascism with enablers of fascism.
If the DNC didn’t say there would be no primary on day 1 then we might have actually been able to see people step forward. Marianne Williamson is at least running on the issues and is physically capable of having a two hour conversation. Biden… not so much
Marianne Williamson, the pseudoscience and conspiracy nutter that helped convince a bunch of people with HIV that medicine doesn’t work and praying and willpower would cure them instead?
Williamson is a nutcase, and Kennedy is a racist anti-vaxxer. How about we get a serious candidate or two?
As if Biden wasn’t already a serious candidate with a provable winning record.
Biden is clearly the better option and it shows by how much money the Republicans and the far right are dumping into “Democratic candidates” like RFK Jr and Dr. Cornell West. Which is also why the Right wingers and their “Democratic” proxies are the only ones trying to push for a democratic primary that would set a new precedent by primarying an incumbent Democratic President.
The only person this infighting about these unqualified challengers to Biden helps is Trump or whatever MAGA loyalist that replaces him once Trump finally winds up in prison. (Hopefully)
cornel west isn’t running for democrat nominee.
Capable of a two hour conversation maybe, but a strong candidate? Not even close
I think if there was a regular debate schedule it could have gotten interesting. But with the way it is now, you’re absolutely correct
I think Dem debates would absolutely help to hold Biden to more progressive positions but no one worth the limelight is running (I’m sure partially due to not holding an open primary). I think '28 is Newsome’s race to lose. He’s got name recognition and is a pretty good debater in conservative spaces so far. Not as progressive as I’d like but I’ve been saying that since I could vote
He has definitely been positioning himself for it. The insulin moves are welcome, but the fact he let a single payer bill expire after promising to pass it leaves an all too familiar sting. But perhaps he can at least be moved on reducing prices for more pharmaceuticals and descheduling marijuana due to its legalization in CA. We’ll see.
Federal ban on single-family zoning.
I’d vote for him
I don’t know why they’re so content to hitch themselves to terrible candidates. I’ve never in my life voted Republican, and the last time I was excited about a democratic nominee was Obama (RIP young idealistic me). Hillary had more baggage than a travelling circus, and felt a lot like just dead ass casting a vote for Goldman Sachs to run the oval office; Primary Biden made Jeb Bush seem like a live wire, besides not really having much to get excited about on his platform. Bernie was basically the only exciting thing the democrats have had going in soon to be over a decade now. The part has to do better.
They had a lot of what I considered exciting candidates in the primaries; Yang, Sanders, and Warren come to mind. They didn’t win because they weren’t as viable or popular.
In 2020 there were double digits dems in the primary…
In 2024 we’re expected to believe the only choice is Biden or a Republican.
If you’re pissed “there’s no other nominee” be mad at the party leaders who aren’t allowing a primary. And realize there’s 100s of people qualified to run as a Dem
Double digit nominees…that all lost to Biden.
We gonna drag them up again? So they can lose again?
… That’s what a primary is for. So people can, like, actually choose.
There are a LOT of people who don’t want Biden for another four years. There are people who didn’t like him, but have warmed up to him.
Would he win a primary? Yeah, probably, because of incumbent advantage.
But that should be for people to decide.
Cool. The requirements to force a debate are all posted publicly. Find someone who wants to stop Biden’s policies and run them.
Fun fact: if an incumbent President has a Primary, they are exponentially more unlikely to win the Presidency again as it can easily be spun into a “vote of no confidence” narrative.
There were four primaries in 2020 where the contest had candidates other than Biden and Bernie running. Biden lost three of them.
46 primaries had no one under 70 running on either side.
I should’ve known Lemmy instances would be filled with dems
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Black Democratic voters in 2020:
"On the one hand we have Bernie Sanders, who literally got arrested at sit-in fighting for Black people’s civil rights. He’s been out front on our side of essentially every political issue for his entire career.
"On the other hand we have Joe Biden who has a problematic history of voting on the wrong side of civil rights during the bussing controversy, and has eventually evolved into a follower, rather than a leader on civil rights issues.
“Ah what the hell, let’s give it to Biden!”
Black Democratic voters now:
"Well, our choice is between Biden, who is doing … Okay. Or Trump, who is famously a bigot, who practiced segregation in his own apartment buildings, and who has a history of soft acceptance of literal neo-nazis.
“… I guess we should just sit this one out.”
Because he’s over a decade past senior citizen.
Who the fuck do you think your constituents are? All retired senior citizens?
If a 35 year old was running, I’d vote for them literally for the age alone, providing there were no fascism ties.
We need to stop electing people that have not worked a job in over 60 years. It’s a fucking joke.
I will vote for anyone under 40. I will NEVER vote for a senior citizen.
Fuck this bullshit.
Legalize Cannabis and stop robbing black males of the right to vote.
You mean what republicans are doing extremely consistently?
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bidens hands were tied in regards to the Afghanistan withdrawal. trump fucked that up and every president since 2001 was more responsible than biden.
I have a hard time believing someone who throws both the “printed too much money” and “backed down on student loans” talking points at the wall is a real person with a coherent political ideology.
Caused inflation? This is the most brain dead take I’ve heard so far. How are people this dense? This has to be a bot.
Yeah, I hate how Biden printed too much money with those COVID stimulus payments and PPP bailouts.
Wait…
How did he back down on student loan forgiveness? Biden administration is still pushing and working on that issue.
What do you think the President can do to “fix our broken system riddled with corruption” while also fighting a very real threat to the end of democracy? That is really the job of Congress, and Biden has said many times that he’ll sign whatever the Dems send him. But they don’t have the votes there and everything is even more chaotic, but at least blame the right people.
I’ll preface this with saying I am a Bernie supporter who (unenthusiastically) voted for Hillary and Biden in 16/20 respectively, and I’ll probably vote for Biden again because we live in hell world. My biggest issue with Biden and student loans is how long it took to implement an obviously shaky plan. Do it earlier on and it doesn’t look like you are using it to string along voters for 2024. Is that the actual reason behind why it took so long for the executive order/whatever the new attempt to get going? No idea, but it sure does feel that way. Signed, a bummed out lefty.
Oh look - election season has officially kicked off with the DNC’s first attempt at trying to guilt trip people into voting for their shitty candidate.
Expect many MANY more of these in the months to come.
It really takes a special kind of scumbag to decide that the proper strategy is to nominate a dismally corrupt and/or incompetent sack of shit then try to guilt trip people into voting for them and blame the voters if they lose, when they could just nominate a decent candidate and people would willingly and even eagerly vote for them and they’d win easily.
I sometimes wonder what it’s like to be that entirely devoid of principles or integrity.
I imagine it involves a lot of alcohol.
I’m really sick of people on the left playing this game. In politics, the perfect is often the enemy of the good. Biden is the candidate because he’s the incumbent and has the best chance of winning. Full stop. He’s not a shitty candidate even if he isn’t your perfect candidate.
Nobody needs to initiate any type of guilt trip. We’ve all been through 4 years of Trump. We currently are (finally) starting to see the indictments that wrought.
We have seen what DeSantis has done to Florida. Where, just today, they effectively outlawed AP Psychology for high school students. State-level brain drain, and trans genocide.
There’s no option here and you’re a piece of shit if you don’t vote, or if you vote for the party that is literally an organized crime syndicate at this point, with a candidate who literally (and I mean like literally literally) should be in prison right now.
If you still need to be guilt tripped in order to make the right choice, then it sounds like you’re kind of a piece of shit.
We saw all that because democrats thought they knew best and pushed hillary as the nominee in 2016. A candidate so shitty that she lost against trump of all people. Many important lessons that democrats refuse to learn – likely intentionally. But yeah, shame voters for not voting the way you want them to instead of, you know, giving them something worth voting for. Truly a democracy.
Yes, we live in a fundamentally broken country. What are you going to do about it? Do you think abstaining from voting is gonna help? Or maybe you’ll really stick it to them with a “protest vote”?
OR, are you going to vote for people (down ballot too, something Bernie Bros who gave up on the DNC didn’t seem to care about after they found out he lost) that aren’t actively promoting LGBTQ genocide, aren’t gutting our public education, aren’t refusing to accept climate change is real, and who aren’t pushing their respective states (and now nation) over a precipice to literal fascism? What do you think happens after that? Leftist thought leaders will magically lead us to glorious revolution? I assume after we un-execute them, of course.
The only way to ever get where you want to go is through gradual change. Moving the Overton window (something that right has gotten figured out) more and more left with each local, state, and federal election, until candidates that more closely match your values are actually viable (because of a sane Overton window).
That doesn’t happen overnight, unless you’re advocating for literal revolution, and more often than not that doesn’t really achieve the original stated goals. And a bunch of dead people for literally nothing.
I vote every time and for democrats down the entire ballot every single time. I’m just not stupid enough to think that’ll change anything and I’m not stupid enough to think you can browbeat people into voting the way you want “because the other guy is worse”. Democrats need to do better, but they won’t because they’re not sincere.
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I’m sorry to bring up Reddit, but being interested in US politics (I’m not from the US) I’m impressed with the level of discussion here.
Almost every political reddit comment section I’ve encountered was a cesspool of such polarized left vs right opinions that anything more nuanced and centered was buried right away.
I think it’s a losing message to campaign on “everything is fine” when the vast majority of Americans are struggling.
Breaking Points covered this article and highlights that the current expectation is to simply say “we’re better than trump”. I don’t think this is very effective and believe that only an economic message can sway voters.
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If people don’t vote for Biden they are voting for the end of the US and democracy around the globe.
I was told that Biden was the more electable candidate. If this was the case this shouldn’t be an issue right?
