Marijuana is its own special category, but club drugs (which for some reason include date rape drugs), inhalants and steroids are all in a “miscellaneous” category together?
Also, note all the ridiculous drug propaganda lies.
I have never in my life heard anyone actually call weed “dope.”
“Dope” is heroin, and its derivatives and relations.
In pineapple express they call it “the dopest dope I ever smoked”… But I now realize that movie is almost 20 years old.
Smokin’ on the finest dope, ay-ay-ay-ah
Dope is 100% also used for weed. Maybe just less common for the younger gens.
Yeah i only heard it called that ironically or as an in joke
I heard it called that back around 1985.
As in; when this was written…
I do all the time and my son makes fun of me for it. That’s how we rolled in the late 70’s/early 80’s
Old crew checking in. I still call it dope, and get side eyed for it.
It’s propaganda to support the war on us and the legal slavery of 1% of the whole population. It’s not education
I get the sense that the author hasn’t tried many or any of these substances and is trotting out the standard line. I didn’t see alcohol, cigarettes and Oxycontin mentioned.
If we’re going to have an adult conversation about addictive substances we should first talk about sugar and junk food. We should also discuss the dangers of a sedentary lifestyle, lack of healthcare and community, ignorance of mental health, motor vehicles, pollution, the criminal justice system, Judeo-Christian culture and being a person of colour. Those will form the major risk factors for human health.
we should first talk about sugar and junk food
Absolutely not. Cigarettes are way way way more dangerous than sugar and junk-food
I mean yes but at least in the US the latter two are overwhelmingly more common.
Issue with the US is that HFCS is heavily subsidized, and thus added to everything.
False. Heart disease is the number one killer.
Shit! I totally forgot that weed is a gateway drug.
Quick someone get me some black tar heroin!
The fact that LSD and shrooms are in the same category as PCP.
I’ve always seen it classed as a more of a dissociative. If it were actually in the same class as shrooms and LSD then I’d have tried it by now.
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Do they go on to mention any negative effects?
I love the idea that this isn’t a smear campaign but a promotional one haha. You’re right this article mostly reads “Apart from some shakes and wanting more later, these are all a great time” lmao.
The “gateway” drug thing was taught to me through DARE in the 90s. But has been confirmed propoganda for decades. Calling Cannabis (marijuana is not the proper name) a “gateway” drug is like saying water or air are “gateway” drugs. Sure, a crack head has probably smoked weed, but that isn’t what got them into crack.
I would guess that these materials are, either, very old or they categorize cannabis differently because it is so common. It doesn’t help that it is illegal in half the country and legal in the other half. So any state with cannabis not, at least, decriminalized will still have the talking points for the 1930s.
Thankfully, she knows from her father, who uses cannabis medicinally, that it is not a “gateway drug.” Especially since the pain I am using it to treat now was one which a doctor originally tried and failed to treat by throwing multiple opioids at it and I’m not doing fentanyl today despite that. Two days of withdrawal was a bitch though.
Are you sure you’re taking enough?
Taking enough what, weed or opioids?
Yes
I’m glad to hear you are off the opioid train. Have lost family members to it and my father is currently been on them for years. I tried to get him on the THC train, he even has a medical card, but he claims to not like the effects. I live in a recently legal state so I’m waiting until I can show him a store with a wide variety to try. I know there is some strain that will help with his pain and suffering without the effects he didn’t like.
I’m luckier than others in that I hate the effects of opioids, so unless it is actually doing some pain killing (fentanyl did wonders when I was in the ER with kidney stones), I just wouldn’t want it in my system.
But I also know that there are plenty of people it does work for who use it because they are legitimately in pain and either were hooked on them by a doctor and can’t get off or just can’t afford an alternative other than to score something illegally to solve their pain issues due to our capitalist healthcare system.
I realize you have to simplify things for kids sometimes, but this is not the way to do it.
I’m begging everyone to watch the intro script of Reefer Madness, its honestly comedy gold how horribly its aged
Seriously. How undereducated is the general population to still be willfully ignorant that “marijuana” is literally BS Spanish “Mary Jane” and not what anyone prior to the utter failure that still is the “War on Drugs” has ever called any part of the plant? FFS. 🤷🏼♂️
Weed is a gateway drug to the fridge.
lmao
It’s better than D.A.R.E. which is what a lot of us got.
I’d argue that it’s not better if they don’t get a sweet, ironic T-shirt to wear to the dispensary after the fact.
I had D.A.R.E. and we also had “Officer Friendly” come to our elementary school and tell us all the ways drugs would kill us horrifically.
shnertin a faaat line in my D.A.R.E. shirt
The people who blabber incessantly about weed being a gateway drug are the exact REASON that I agree with them, but we VERY much disagree on the specifics.
Think of it this way:
Every adult in your life has told you that weed is JUST AS BAD as heroin and cocain and meth. You hear it repeated ad nauseum, ESPECIALLY if you were in DARE.
Now one day someone you have known for a long time offers you some because “it’s not that bad, trust me you’ll be fine” and they go ahead and take a puff or twelve. Turns out it’s not that bad. They were fine after some initial uncoordinated attempts at doing something.
So if weed is this interesting, maybe heroin isn’t that bad either?
Yeah turns out heroin IS that bad, and lumping it in with weed is like tossing the kindergarten bully into a maxsec prison.
So yeah, it’s only a “gAtEwAy dRuG” because you fucks lied for decades and made false equivalence of things and taught kids they can’t trust you.
While drunk, I got insane cravings for cocaine and nicotine
While high, I get insane cravings for pizza and Tame Impala
I just get hang overs.
Weed doesn’t hit like it use to. I think weed/stress and responsibility is a bad combo.
I’ll agree but sooner or later everyone is going to make the leap its just a matter of how far they think the fall is.
Say we start thinking about weed the same way we think about alcohol now. Ok but there is molly, mushrooms, LSD, and ketamine that can all easily step into the space that weed had occupied. Say we discrimininlize all that too. Now people understand how mood altering substances work and aren’t afraid them. Does heroin seem more accessible now?
I’m not saying a tier system is good and maybe society is just fundamentally flawed in the way it thinks about mind altering substances. Some how though, we need to show people before they learn the hard way, that substance abuse has lasting adverse effects including death.
Turned out, the gateway drug was tobacco…
Arguably one of the worst drugs to be taking. Death is slow and agonizingly painful. The addiction is deep seeded. The high is very minor, like you see me going out on heroin you know I’ve experienced things your greatest orgasm could never compare too. Smoking, I got to like, stand outside for 5 mins at a time.
I’ve experienced things your greatest orgasm could never compare too.
But to anyone reading this, DO NOT DO HEROIN. It’s life-ruining. There’s that story of the guy on Reddit who decided to try it, and gave updates as it ruined his life. He stopped updating and people assume he’s just dead.
Seriously, heroin is some fucked up shit.
I looked it up to read it, harrowing but I don’t think he is dead. He posted a few years ago saying that the account is too much to log in on, from all the messages and I get that. I once made some posts/comments about being suicidal that got nowhere near the attention he got and I was getting DMs about it for years. I can’t imagine the stress of logging in to that account with how many mentions, DMs and comments it must receive, about a really really shitty time in your life.
https://www.reddit.com/user/SpontaneousH/comments/pux3ls/its_been_a_while/?context=3
Oh well would you look at that. Good for him, says he’s been clean.
/u/SpontaneousH
Archived that shit - read it when I was a teen and it convinced me to stay far away from drugs and addiction.
Decades ago, my school’s drug info was similar: every drug had a single entry (‘euphoria’) in the Pros column and a massive list (ending with death) for the Cons column.
Where is the alcohol section that causes probably the most deaths per year?
It was in a separate lesson, which was similarly filled with bullshit.
YOU EVER SUCK DICK FOR WEED? BOO THIS MAN BOOOOOOO!!!
The fact it still teaches the “gateway drug” shit tells me it’s outdated as hell.
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Hmm, I went looking around and it seems opinions are mixed?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gateway_drug_effect#History suggests one longitudinal study found a causal link, but another meta-study found a correlation without enough evidence to indicate a causal link?
When you gotta hang out with people (who most likely do/sell other drugs), no risk that you’re going to get an offer to try something else.
Not really true at all in Canada. Once again this is just the side effects of weed being illegal being mistaken for the fault of the substance when it’s not.
Where did I say otherwise? If you’re able to go to a normal licenced shop and buy it, of course the example I gave wouldn’t happen.
I’d argue that if there is any gateway effect, it’s solely related to the propaganda taught to the public that falls apart once you’ve actually tried some of them.
I don’t think there’s anything inherent about the drugs themselves that would drive you to try anything stronger. It’s more that the misinformation makes people think “if they lied to me about this, what else were they lying about?” after trying something like weed and realizing it doesn’t turn you into a psychopath or make you want to jump out of a window.
This reads like an ai response. The first part is reasonably accurate, much more then my own classes thats didnt differentiate at all.
The continued part is a gptchat tell I think someone continued with “write another section on weed and club drugs like x y”
Its another tell that this section 2 is alot more unhinged then the first.
It is biased , probably the prompted “for a school to discourage” but its far from the worst ive seen and heard
