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Pornhub goes dark in Arkansas after age verification law kicks in::Pornhub operator MindGeek has blocked all users in Arkansas from the site after the state’s new age verification law went into effect.
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Alot of new VPN subs coming out of that state I bet.
You think your average Arkansan knows that many letters?
real chads are only using xnxx anyway
Didn’t read the bill cause pdf and cause it’s a bill, but found another article describing it, and it says at the end:
The bill also would apply to material that as a whole lacks serious “literary, artistic, political, and scientific value for minors.”
Isn’t that like 99% of the internet?
Why are you against Pdf files?
Edit: Though reading my question out loud I get it…
(Are we anti postscript document format now? Did I miss a haters meeting??)
“Now?”
PDF files have been widely hated for as long as they have existed. They’re good for printing and not much else. Definitely not a user-friendly substitute for a text file or web page.
The are a requirement for distributing a document that has to look the same on every device. I don’t love them and Adobe can go take a flying fuck but if I NEED to make sure that my boss doesn’t alter a document it has to be a PDF.
That’s not a positive point of PDF but more of a dump on how much of a piece of trash MS Office is. And MS specifically refused to take part in ODF. This wouldn’t have been a thing of Microsoft wasn’t a crime against computing.
PDF is an Open Standard, the problem is that every site tells you that you can only open it with a program from Adobe.
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Just don’t like opening on phone, my browser doesn’t open, so it asks to download, then i end up with a bunch of random useless files there. Don’t u skip search results that lead to pdfs?
I actively search for them, moonreader catalogs everything. Having about half a TB on the phone file system also helps, but to be fair, since 2016 I never have filled any phone file system in a meaningful way
Pdfs are like the best for reading. Consistent format on every device.
They just suck to create or edit.
They suck to edit but you can create them in most Free/Open/Libre software. It’s my favorite way to distribute drawings so that they print the same on every machine.
Sounds like all online games too
Not in Arkansas and not a porn consumer, but in this day and age how do you not already run thru a VPN or two?
Most people are technologically ignorant, friend
Well can I Helen Keller them and then knock smarts into them?
It may even speed up your connection.
Taken from information for end users of Swan Mobile:
If enterprise blocks, slows down or prioritizes selected ports or services, it will list them in the following table
There you may notice P2P being limted to 1Mbps and Video streaming to 2Mbps.
So… without VPN you can watch videos in like 360p. Oh, but it gets better, after you use 10GB on video streaming it drops to 1Mbps. So 240p? 💀
With VPN you just get the general FUP limit of 300GB without limits.Well I rip and run, so streaming isn’t my bag baby.
What kinda adult would care about your ISP knowing you watch porn?
VPNs are often over blown. Their ads will make it seem like they’re some critical privacy thing, but these days virtually every website is encrypted (HTTPS). Your ISP can know the IP address you’re visiting (and thus typically the site), but pretty much everything else, including what page you’re viewing on the site, is known only to you and the site in question. VPNs had a lot more merit before HTTPS was ubiquitous.
They’re still useful if you’re visiting illegal sites or using peer to peer technology (most particularly illegal torrents), but that’s not the case for many and certainly not for just viewing normal porn.
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I’m lost here, why would you need a VPN running all the time?
So your ISP doesn’t have logs on where you surf. I run 2 to 3 at a time. No one (I hope) knows what I’m doing.
VPNs have many uses, but I think it is overstated how much they provide in privacy. They can hide your public IP address, but your VPN provider still knows it (and you have to trust them that they won’t keep all the information on you). And you can still be identified by your browser fingerprint which a VPN doesn’t do anything about. Their encryption doesn’t add much either, since most traffic on the web is already encrypted via TLS or SSL (when you use https sites).
They are however useful to access content that isn’t available in all regions of the world, when all you need is to hide your ip (e.g. when pirating (i imagine most governments won’t go through the effort to try figure out who is behind the vpn, but I’m not sure)), to allow you to access an institution’s intranet from home, to allow playing LAN games with your friends when both of you are on different networks and behind a NAT, or in any other situation when you need to use the internet with another IP or need to route traffic to another network.
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I have to ask, does a VPN really 100% anonymise everything? Like DNS and everything, so they can’t see the domains you access? Does this include the ISP but also the wifi router logs (for example on an open network)?
So the only way to find out anything is to raid the VPN offices and backtrack your real IP…?
It sounds like a too easy way to get away with anything online. 🤔
Privacy is a goal worth having in and of itself.
I can’t believe there’s still people on here in the current political climate saying things like “well I don’t have anything to hide anyway, I don’t care if evil corp / the state / any curious person knows my every move.”
Well, I do care. It’s none of their fucking business what I’m doing and what sites I’m visiting.
I agree 100%, I was just wondering about the technicalities - how much does using a VPN protect us.
As far as I know, the only person who has information on what you’re browsing is the VPN provider. Your ISP would only see that you were connecting to the VPN, and how much data you were pushing and pulling from them but wouldn’t even have the domain names of the things you were browsing, nor any packets that were actually exchanged.
The VPN provider could still have all of this information, but presumably not more unless you were doing a lot of stuff unencrypted or were using some weirdo middleware that could man in the middle your encrypted connections.
Very nice, thank you!
Some people say that a VPN is like a tunnel.
This is actually incorrect. A VPN is actually like a condom.
Verification should be a 2fa letter with the logo on the envelope.
Request access to each video and wait for a letter with the title and thumbnail printed on the outside.
Thinking back to dialup times, this made me laugh.
Who in their right mind would expect a free porn site to go to this level of hassle?
Or is this a puritanical measure in disguise?
I don’t think it’s especially disguised…
VPN industry lobbyists disguised as morality crusaders if you like tin foil hats as much as I do. Most likely not though, just people who feel the need to control how others spend their time and precious bodily fluids.
It’s the second one. I saw article where they talked how Florida was the first to pass it, pornhub put time and money into developing what they needed to comply and saw a 90% decrease in traffic because nobody wants to hand over their ID for free porn.
Wouldn’t even want to hand over my ID for a paid service.
After MindGeek started complying with the Louisiana law earlier this year, the company said traffic dropped by 80 percent.
It’s literally in the linked article lol
Pornhub would make more money simply starting a vpn service rather than try to gather IDs
They already do
Ohhhh fuck is it viewer’s age verification… I assumed it was the people in the porn… As if this is gonna stop horny kids from seeing porn
Pretty sure PH already requires ID for people in porn. That’s why they wiped half the uploads some years ago pending accounts verifying themselves.
It’s to stop people from watching porn, they don’t care about kids.
yeah, the smart teenager is going to be charging the adults in his life $50 to get their porn working again.
Especially since PornHub has an excellent point. Even though they theoretically could do an ID check, the sketchier porn sites simply wouldn’t. All these laws would do is push minors to use more dangerous porn sites. They’re not going to not watch porn just because the big, law abiding site checks IDs.
When this happened in Utah a few months ago, Google searches for VPN increased in like over 1000%.
The best Free VPN IMO is ProtonVPN,
For a general user that just wants a comprehensive google replacement, proton unlimited at $12/mo is a pretty good deal. Comes with the VPN premium and a password manager (now).
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And way more private by accepting Monero and requiring no registration, but they don’t have solutions for my Calandar, Cloud Drive, email with custom domain, etc. hence “drop in google replacement”.
I do not understand the need to have your passwords stored somewhere in the cloud. I’d better sync them by a wire if I had several devices, not like passwords change every day. And there are cheaper VPNs out there with better reputation.
It’s not like they are plaintext, and increased availability/ redundancy would be one potential reason for deciding to have a cloud synced password manager database.
There are other solutions that you can self host or create yourself, and if that works better for you and your use case, I encourage it.
Things you aren’t legally allowed to do in Arkansas: watch porn, have an abortion, read, write, or wipe your ass.
I get the impression not a lot of people were reading, writing, or wiping there even when it was legal.
Vpn prices bout to go up
Edit: I like mullvad
Vpn searches bout to go upFTFY
Is this a scheme of VPN providers? Do they pay off politicians?
There are still tons of porn sites that don’t give a fuck about those state laws and don’t comply. No VPN needed, just browse to an unblocked site.
They can’t force compliance of foreign hosts anyway
This is part of a focused effort. Same as the “Gasp, Pornhub is full of revenge porn and CSAM” a few years back. Ars has a good writeup of that, but the gist of it is that it led to basically every credit card company blocking business to Pornhub. Which more or less killed their premium model. And most of the human trafficking horror stories that were dug up were revealed to either be fabrications or be more “general” ones with a lot of the resulting horror going to facebook and twitter.
Same here. “Age verification” is a pretense to run campaigns to punish and destroy the companies trying to actually make good porn. Because “foreign hosts” only care if they can profit. And if the only people who CAN pay for porn are the ones who want to watch children being violently raped? Well, a lot of republican politicians like Matt “Eww, she turned 13?” Gaetz will still get their rocks off.
These tech companies leaving certain places to avoid regulation, while sucking up to censorship laws in Russia and the likes… They can shove it, if you ask me.
In other, unrelated news, VPN’s are experiencing an unexpected spike in traffic. More at 5.
I don’t understand why they use pornhub, it’s so much easier for them to get actual sex with their favorite dating app: 23andme.
23.5andme
Do Arkansans have a reputation for inbreeding ?
Arkansas, Alabama, Tennessee, Idaho, Utah, Wyoming, Both the carolinas, and missouri are all commonly made for of for their perceived incest issues
I remember reading about this before. This is so stupid. Making people verify with offical documents… People are going to get their documents stolen so much more now. Nice job Arkansas!
i thought american don’t have ID card? what kind document is official document?
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They do like every other country…
You mean that every American citizen is automatically issued a photocard ID free of charge after they reach a certain age?
Because that’s how it works in most of Europe for example. Some countries mandate that you must carry it at all times in case the police requires you to identify yourself. You use this card to vote, and you can also travel freely within the EU with it (loads of people don’t even own a passport for this reason).
You might be right about this one. I myself don’t have a ID-card but use my bank card as identification.
I think we’ve lost thr plot a bit. Yes, the US is one of thr only countries without a national ID, but that’s sort of beside the point.
Whatever ID you onr is forced to use, national or not, the issue is the state tyrannically policing teens behavior.
IDs cost money in Germany, you definitely aren’t required to have it on you (but most do because it’s in the wallet), and technically you aren’t even required to have one you’re only required to have an official identifying document which can also be a passport. Or, if you’re an alien, well, passport, or residency permit. Any Schengen one probably works.
Oh and IDs aren’t required to vote, you usually just show them the piece of paper they sent you to tell you when and where to vote. Push come to shove and things being suspicious you have to “make believable” that you’re you, and that also works with a student ID or whatever.
You can 100% get and ID in the US (might be state dependant but all states i’ve lived in have had this option) that is not a drivers license. It looks similar but you just cant drive with it. It can be used for anything else like buying alcohol or as a governemnt id for something. I dont think theres a fee either, if there is its like $20 for the paperwork. And it is not just issued. You do have to go to the dmv or something.
Where in Europe is that? Not in Austria. Passports, driver’s licenses and personal identity cards all cost money. For a long time my only ID card was my passport, so I used that to vote, but now I have a driver’s license.
The UK does not require you to have any ID. it is not your job to prove who you are. this does lead to a number of interesting problems.
The government doesn’t go out of it’s way to give you one, but they usually aren’t difficult to get. Driver’s licenses and passports are commonly used as ID. Many states will also issue a state ID card, though the process for getting one varries by state.
Driving, or at least being able to drive, is so ubiquitous that nearly everyone over 16 has some kind of driver’s license. That’s especially true of rural areas like Arkansas.
For these kinds of things “official document” typically means a driver’s license, passport, state ID, military ID, etc. Anything issued by a state or federal government that has your name, date of birth, and photo.
Sheesh! Now a twars Billy Bob gonna geet his sexual gratifications from now? His goat? She’s plum wore out!
There are a couple words I don’t understand here. Can you help me make sense of them ? it’s twars and plum.
And what accent are you imitating here ? Arkansas ?
“plum wore out” is a phrase meaning “completely worn out.” Twars I don’t know. Where I’m from it would be more like “whar’s billy bob gon git’is lovin from now?” Source: alabama
Watch o brother where art tho. It will give a great insight to the language of the south.
Pornhub is kinda shit now anyway. Not a big loss.
It’s downright hypocritical that MindGeek has been outright supportive of the UK government’s efforts to push age verification checks on porn and have even tried to lobby our country to implement AgeID as the solution.
But the moment US states start demanding that they verify user ages, they start geoblocking.
My knowledge on this is very limited and I currently lack sources, but I believe the issue that Mindgeek has is not the implementation of age verification, but instead the fact that all of the work is being put on Mindgeek to implement it instead of the states. I believe they’ve been fine in the past implementing age verification if the system already exists and they just have to tie into it.
I’m pretty sure their main issue is that they don’t want to be the ones doing the age verification. Louisiana set up a state run verification system, and pornhub has continued to operate their site in the state. I don’t want porn sites to have my ID info.
Didn’t the company also previously claim they were unable to effectively combat child porn?
Classy lot.
No, they claimed they weren’t able to let amateurs post and prevent child porn. So they took down an enormous amount of content.
