cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/15286303
GOP introduces bill that would send anyone convicted of unlawful activity on a campus since Oct. 7th, 2023 to Gaza.
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/15286301
“A group of Republican lawmakers introduced a bill on Wednesday which would send “any person convicted of unlawful activity” at a college or university, to do community service in Gaza for six months.”
“Strangely, the bill appears to refer to any “unlawful activity on the campus of an institution of higher education beginning on and after October 7, 2023” but does not specifically mention the ongoing student protests, rendering it stupidly broad.”
"Ogles spoke with Fox News about the bill, saying that, “If you support a terrorist organization, and you participate in unlawful activity on campuses, you should get a taste of your own medicine. I am going to bet that these pro-Hamas supporters wouldn’t last a day, but let’s give them the opportunity.”
Students: Genocide is BAD!
Pro Life Republicans: TERRORISTS!
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Supporting palestine is not supporting terrorists. Can you tell me how many palestinian civilian casualties are recorded till now in Gaza? Can you tell me what is the number or Israelis who died as a result of IDF invasion into Gaza?
Ah so it’s not about rights and freedoms, it’s about the right opinions and the freedom of your side. The opinions of hypocrites can and should be discarded.
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What’s your policy on useless idiots? It’s a time sensitive question because I just saw this opinion I’m not sure what to do with
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Imagine caring about the suffering of others for no good reason.
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Don’t understand how this troll doesn’t get banned. Spouts the most rage bait shit.
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The IDF allows dyed hair now? Seems out of character.
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pro Hamasites
Student protesters are not pro-Hamas. Few Palestinians are even pro-Hamas. Most Palestinians are under 18 and couldn’t even have voted for Hamas 18 years ago. There have been no elections since then.
Protesters are against killing thousands of innocent men, women, and children by bombing literally everything. That’s it. That’s the issue. If you think it’s OK to bomb children, say so, because that’s what protesters are against. So if you’re against the protesters, you’re for bombing innocents.
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We’ve all seen
Don’t try to tell people what they’ve seen.
clearly demonstrates that you don’t have a problem with what they’re saying.
Now that is foolish rhetoric. Protesters can’t control who walks among them. There are counter protesters who walk among them, too. Does that mean the anti-genocide protesters don’t have a problem with the counter protesters? Nonsense.
The vast majority of student protesters are anti-genocide of Palestinians. Full stop. If you say or imply otherwise, you are not arguing in good faith.
Even civil rights protesters in the 1960’s had individuals among them who thought they should “kill all whites”. That doesn’t say a thing about the ones who were there simply for equal rights. It’s a fallacy to ascribe the beliefs of the extreme minority to the beliefs of the majority just because they walked or sat together.
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At the same time, when these assholes take to the streets…
“Don’t tread on me! Muh freedum!”
Stupid motherfuckers that they are in their factory-default state, and they only get worse from there, not better.The party of twitter trolls. Sad.
Jfc, just when I thought people were as dumb as our species can get
So, since they’re not-so-subtlely trying to murder these students, then they are saying that political violence is okie-dokie?
The GOP is a literal fascist party. Political violence is their bread and butter.
have you skipped the part where they’re arguing that in trump’s trial too
at least they’re consistent… consistently violent and undemocratic, but consistent
Dude saw the “u like socialism, move to vuvuzela” memes and took it as a suggestion.
I swear the federal governments that killed off entire populations of native Americans and authorized the recapture of escaped slaves were less childish and vindictive than today’s GOP.
Same group. They just changed their target from black people to woke people.
Woke includes minorities and women.
Just wait until they find out that date rape is “unlawful activity”, so their sons all start getting sent .
Better start drafting that carve out for congressional family members.
So every time they had “counter protests” aka attacking people for their beliefs, they were performing unlawful activities. Meaning they should all be shipped to Gaza according to this.
GOP’ers are the fucking worst. Maybe they should go move to Israel and have a stab at killing babies. On second thought, they’d probably like that since the kids have been born already and are brown.
We need a similar bill that would send anyone convicted of unlawful activity in the US Capital since January 5th of 2021 to Siberia.
Send them to Somalia, where they can experience a truly small government country with very conservative social views.
Better yet, the center of the sun. We don’t need them radicalized any more than they are. Somalians would pick up on their ignorance and exploit the shit out of them.
I say, make them the sun’s problem. There’s nothing that 27,000,000° Fahrenheit can’t solve.
Well firing them into the sun is extremely difficult, and resource intensive. Sending them on a one way trip to Somalia isn’t. There are plenty people who are far more radicalized than them there as it is. So they can go be radicals in Somalia, where they have no influence, power, protection, and most will hate them as a default. They will most likely just never be heard from again.
Hmm. So a US law introduced solely to ‘fire up the base’ now has the agency to override any immigration/visa requirements of Gaza? American exceptionalism at its finest.
Who’s going to handle the logistics of travel, housing, and food? Is the US military going to house thousands of civilian students? or should the studennts check out Gaza’s bustling real estate listings for vacant hostels and flats?
Get busted in your dorm for getting drunk… off to Gaza?
Think of how stupid the average conservative is, then remember, half of them are stupider than that.
For the reasons you listed, among many even more fundamental ones, the would never pass, and if it did, it’s unenforceable.
It’s not to fire up the conservative base. It’s to fire you up.
It’s just bait to shape their strawman “screeching liberal” archetype. They want pictures of blue haired college LGBTQ folks frothing at the mouth, chanting “death to Republicans”
That’s all the Republicans do. It’s all they’ve done for 40 years. They’re never FOR anything they’re just AGAINST the ENEMY. Sometimes they get one dropped into their laps like on 9/11. Sometimes they gotta make their own. Communists. Immigrants.
At this point, they’re even happy to create their own out of queer college liberals. They were NEVER EVER going to vote R anyway. They know they can stir a REE out of them with legislation like this and then use the response as fodder for “America used to be strong and now it’s full of soyboy cucks.”
The arrogance of the Democrats is that they think Republican politicians are just stupid. Some are, but like if they’re so dumb, why haven’t the Dems been able to get more than 8 years? If your opponent is borderline mentally impaired, but you’re neck in neck in what is absolutely a competition of wits, what HARD reality are you failing to accept?
You want to know how to defuse the strategy? Don’t take the bait. It’d be one thing if it was in any way real. It isn’t. Don’t take the clickbait. Don’t feed the trolls. Don’t let someone take a picture of anyone with blue hair having a meltdown.
Yeah everyone should just let Republican lawmakers do whatever they want, no matter how outrageous, without discussing or complaining. Because that totally doesn’t normalize their outrageous behavior.
You believe this legislation is being put forward with the intention for it to be codified into law?
Yes. They spent years fighting Roe V. Wade with inane bullshit until one stuck. They fought student loan relief, immigration changes, and healthcare reform. Republicans in America have clearly demonstrated that they are dogs chasing after cars, and when they catch them they don’t care or realize what the consequences are. We need to stop excusing their behavior as if they’re “making a statement” or “posturing”. They tell us what they want to do, we say “nah, they don’t mean it”, and then it happens
Roe v. Wade is a supreme Court ruling, not a law. And what happened was the supreme court changed. This isn’t comparable at all.
Again, this isn’t real, at all. For like 100 reasons.
Get mad at the real ones, there are certainly enough REAL ones to get mad at that deserve yours (and everyone’s) attention. This is noise. A smoke screen. It’s bait.
No (only because as you mentioned it’s not going to fly at the current time. They absolutely would if they could). That does not mean I think ignoring it is less harmful than calling it out.
My human, you have to know that they submitted this bill knowing full well it hasn’t got any chance of being taken seriously on the floor. There’s only one reason a lawmaker would even draft a bill like this, and that one reason is to get attention. A shiny bauble to distract us all. Any stage magician can tell you that magic is all about misdirection. If I’ve got you staring at the card in my left hand, you don’t notice the deck in my right hand. So, the thing you should be doing, is asking what they’ve got hidden up their sleeve.
Repeating something does not make it more correct
They’ve never needed pictures before, and they don’t need pictures now. Hell, even the iconic meme picture is taken from a video of a woman speaking normally - they just used an unflattering frame to discredit her. This isn’t a ploy to get a photo op of the left being mad, it’s another small push of the republican boundaries. Enough “joke” bills about overbearing punishments for minor offenses made by people their party doesn’t like, and they’ll be primed enough to fully support the real thing. We’re already there for a large portion of the republican base.
Republicans have a massive robust propaganda machine that flat out lies to their voters and they don’t question it. Obviously democrats have a ton of problems but the way you are framing that is disgustingly dishonest.
Are you saying that the reason the Dems aren’t trouncing the Republicans at every turn is because they won’t flat out lie to their voters?
And, if so, do you feel that the Dems have been honest about Gaza, and the way they have characterized the campus protests?
I’m not saying “both parties are equally bad”, I’m just saying that many of the justifications that Dems give for why the “mentality inferior Republicans” regularly beat them are really more of soothing stories than well-considered fact.
My whole thesis is that they’re not stupid. They’re dangerous. There IS method behind the madness, and this fairy tale we tell ourselves that they’re stupid is harmful to Democratic chances, because if they’re “just stupid” then you don’t see the plan and methodology… And if you can’t see the plan and methodology then you can’t develop an effective response to it.
So, I’m telling you what it is, and asking you to just think critically about things for even 1 second after you hear them and instead of throwing up your hands and wailing, ask basic questions like “why? Who is the audience? What response do they expect, and from who? How does that further their cause?” This particular example is easy-mode.
It’s so dumb, but this I’d the same base that was excited about Mexico paying for the wall.
All that succeeds in doing is showing how insanely nuerotic the gee, oh pee is
Every year I respect the law less. The people in charge are using their post to play games with each other. They don’t give a fuck about us.
Israel won’t let journalists and food into the gaza, you think they’re going to let a bunch of US college students in? Besides they’re too old for Israel to kill.
