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Though the way the leaker describes it makes it sound more like a 3rd person MOBA than a hero shooter.
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So Team Fortress 3
Team Fortress 2.5
No, Counterstrike 2: Good Edition.
No, no, that’s not how this works. No 3s, them’s the rules.
One might think so, but the number 3 in the potential title makes this highly unlikely.
Team Fortress: Alyx
Ugh, as if we don’t have enough of this kind of game already. SMITE 2 and Marvel Rivals are coming soon. Valve for fucks sake, look at how well Half Life: Alyx did. I seriously hope they’re working on a future Half Life game or some new story driven style game at the very least. I’m calling it now, Deadlock is going to be another Artifact.
SMITE isn’t a shooter, though. Overwatch 2 killed Overwatch and left an empty space. I don’t see a problem if two games (or more) try to fill it. I hope they are fun.
That said, it shouldn’t be Valve’s only focus if fans are expecting different games from them.
The screenshots look like a MOBA such as Smite or Predecessor
Calling things an OverWatch style shooter is a bit like calling every first person shooter a Doom clone. Just call it a hero shooter I know what a hero shooter is. You don’t need to compare it to another game.
It’s bad enough that the term a “roguelike” exists, I can guarantee that hardly anyone who plays them has ever actually played rogue, and fair enough since it’s ancient, so they have no idea if the game they’re playing is like it or not.
“Roguelike” has also become very watered down. I see “roguelite” used less often, though it’s more accurate, but there isn’t a good alternative term right now. Turn-based-dungeon-crawler-with-permadeath is historically accurate but there’s a tendency to lump action games like Rogue Legacy and Enter the Gungeon in that needs to be accounted for.
(And no I haven’t played Rogue but I did play a bunch of NetHack)
Overwatch is a particularly successful Team-Fortress-like
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DOTASHOOTER
Dooter.
shoota
Shota
Still a better game than LoLi
I had a lot of good times and even more bad times with DotA over the years, until I finally freed myself from it years ago.
IceFrog being behind this backed by Valve bodes well, and I think the premise of an FPS/MOBA hybrid has promise, despite the market being insanely oversaturated already.
I’m not really interested in competitive games these days, but I hope it’ll be good to watch at least. Following The International was fun even after I quit DotA.
Trust me the market could use some competition. The only thing that really comes close to OW is Paladins.
My first thought was that Valve was basically making a Paladins clone.
Was gonna say. How is the hero shooter market over-saturated? There’s like 3 games that people actually know about, and like 2 of those are good/decent.
I could be mistaken, as I don’t really play competitive games anymore. I thought between Overwatch, Valorant, Apex, The Finals and what have you there was lots of stiff competition.
If companies see titles like Overwatch and Fortnite and want to be MORE like that, then I’m just done with anything other than Indie Games and Singleplayer at this point.
JESUS CHRIST JUST MAKE HALF LIFE 3 AND PORTAL 3 WHAT ARE YOU DOING VALVE?!?!
At this point, we have some absolutely impressive Portal 2 mods that, in my opinion, definitely make up for not having Portal 3. We’ve got Tag (the paint gun mod), Thinking With Portals (a short one that gives you the ability to create a clone thing that copies recorded actions), and I’ve been playing through one I just found out about called Revolution that is pretty cool so far.
I personally like to think that the fans have done a good enough job at creating mods and maps that a Portal 3 would be redundant.
Damn I didn’t know portal had a mod community like that. I’ll check it out.
Revolution is flat out better then most AAA retail games, both in quality and length.
Portal Stories: Mel is also something to try out. There’s some small references to Mel in Revolution, but playing Mel before Revolution isn’t necessary, but recommended.
Fuck it, I’m down (unless it’s a moba, then no thanks)
You know this sounds like battleborn and i miss battleborn. I’m kinda excited.
Isn’t an overwatch style hero shooter just team fortress 2? Now get off my lawn, I have clouds to tell at.
Nah. TF2 is a shooter with 9 classes. People can double up on “soldier” for instance. A hero shooter has for one, a lot more classes / heroes (which comes from MOBAs), for two activated abilities on each hero which change the games significantly, and usually disables doubling up in competetive modes. You wouldn’t call Enemy Territory a hero shooter for instance.
I stand by my assessment that overwatch is essentially team fortress 2 with a limit of one player per class and fewer game modes.
I don’t know the name of the trope, but it’s like when a cover gets more popular than the original. Except the person doing the cover (blizzard) is a huge scumbag.
I mean, okay, people can claim that every fps is just Doom with extra steps, doesn’t make the distinction irrellevant though. Mobas are their own thing, they aren’t called RTS anymore. Same with hero shooters. Tf2 isn’t a hero shooter.
If you set the server config to limit one player per class, and set the max team size to like 8, you basically have a hero shooter. That’s not an unusual config- some servers were just like that for years.
What’s missing ? “Each class has two powers” is an extremely specific metric I don’t think is a requirement for hero shooters, and even if it was you have the unique grenades on top of the more obvious “he can build a sentry, he can turn invisible”.
You could maybe argue there aren’t enough classes, but I don’t buy that. As long as you have enough for everyone on the team to play something different, you’re good. The characters in TF2 certainly have personality.
I knew someone who got really upset when I compared overwatch to TF2, but I think it was because they were emotionally invested in overwatch and felt bad when I was like “it’s kind of like this much older game I like more”. Saying the thing they love is kind of a knockoff made them feel bad.
Anyway. To your point. I wouldn’t call tf2 a hero shooter first. It’s not the best representation of the genre, probably. But to my point, I still stand by overwatch added very little on top of TF2. Most of Blizzard’s changes were changes in minor detail. It’s basically "more classes, fewer game modes, you can’t run your own server, and we’re going to try to sell you micro transactions "
Just the fact that you need to go through so many mental gymnastics to prove your point shows it. Tf2 is not a hero shooter, get over it.
It’s essentially a hero shooter. You shoot. It has heroes. I don’t know what else you want.
Going by that definition CS is a hero shooter.
I think you can get there in TF2 when considering subclasses via weapons loadouts. Demoknight for instance is a completely different play style than normal pipe/sticky demoman.
Overwatch disabled doubling up well after launch, and only because they couldn’t or wouldn’t balance the game such that a 4 tank no DPS comp didn’t utterly cheese the game.
They brought it back as a gamemode called “open queue”, which nerfs tanks to be more in line with DPS.
So I guess in the end yes, it is tf2
I thought overwatch was based on team fortress. Why not just a new team fortress?
Competitive shooter
Brooo I just wanna chill and have fun and play some games.
Then don’t play competitive shooters lol? There are literally thousands of great games for you out there. Why are you even commenting on this post?
Because some of us want a game from Valve that’s not competitive? There are literally thousands of us out here. Why do you even care?
Oh it HAS to be made by Valve. Ok cool?
This post is about VALVE’s next game. Can’t you read?
Yes, the one that’s a competitive shooter right?
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Valve releasing a competitive game doesn’t prevent you from doing this. I for one am excited by the potential of this game. Then again, I’ve been playing Dota for 10 years so maybe I’m just a masochist.
Sounds more like TF2 crossed with DOTA, which sounds weirdly fun and hella toxic.
I can’t wait to be called new and exciting racial slurs as I lose the game for my team.
Or bring back the classics. I haven’t been called a swamp kisser in a while.
I don’t want to get banned but just assume I tend to go 1 and 15 and every notices every time.
Isn’t Smite exactly this?
Ish, smite is literally a MOBA with the camera sitting behind the characters shoulder instead of top-down.
Easiest and only description of SMITE is third-person MOBA. I’ve played since 2012
Try out Predecessor, it’s F2P and exactly this
Can you imagine the chaos of a veteran Dota2 player being matched with a notorious conga dancer?
I bet it will be made to run awesome on steam deck.
