Other than being blatantly fake this is really nice.
It is okay to assume something is real when it doesn’t hurt anyone. :)
Cause maybe, juuust maybe, this story will help someone else.
I unironically did this to taper off nicotine and have been smoke/vape/nicotine free for 6 years
50% nic lmao. Fake as hell.
OP probably means 50mg which is standard high concentration nic salts (freebase is most commonly 3mg). People often mistake mg for percentage in vaping.
But they claimed to have used dilution formulas to achieve these percentages. Pretty sure it’s BS.
I’m not going to argue that greentext is ever real but mixing vape juice and diluting is very common. I vape 3mg freebase 1:2 with nic-free for 1mg juice which has a very tiny nic kick. You can even mix flavors like Cola + Apple or cherry is just delicious :P
I know you can, I do the same haha. What I’m saying is, they couldn’t have both accidentally read the 50mg as 50% while simultaneously claiming to have calculated exactly how much would be needed to dilute it to 49%, because diluting it to 49mg and 49% would be two different calculations and it’s unlikely they’d make that mistake after doing the calculations.
I see what you’re saying, but for the sake of this end goal the difference between diluting by 1% (to 49.5 mg) vs 1 mg isn’t too big of a deal odds are they did it by percent of original nicotine, but the idea behind a taper stays pretty much the same.
Math time.
Let’s say it’s 50mg/30ml. To get to 49mg/30ml you need 49/50 of the original bottle or 29.4ml of the original concentration with the last bit being 0 nic.
Now our hypothetical 50% nic bottle has 15ml nicotine. 49% would be 14.7ml. Now our original mix is 50%, so we have to add twice as much as that 14.7ml to get to 49%. 14.7×2= … 29.4ml.
The cool thing about dimensional analysis is that once you cancel out your dimensions the math takes care of itself, same as if you’re using percentages. Anon may not know much about vape juice, but his math is on point.
I’m not trying to be rude here, but the math is not my problem, I understand dimensional analysis.
After doing that calculation, is it likely that you are going to mistake the term “percent” and “mg”, or after doing something so specific with units are you more likely to use the right one?
I’m saying that if OP actually did any of this (you say their math is on point but they didn’t do any haha) they’d probably be using the correct term rather than the incorrect yet common “street” term
The point of my math is that it doesn’t matter if it’s mg or percent. Assuming the bottles remain consistent, the difference for each step will be the same volume.
everyone i know calls 50mg “50%”
everyone.
Around these places, if anyone asks for “50% nic liquid”, they’d be promptly kicked out of the store. Chances are, that’d be kids that don’t know pure nicotine is ~1010mg/mL, or they do know and are asking for something highly illegal.
Are you sure you’re not confusing it with PG/VG composition?
I’ll chime in and say that 20mg is the highest legally sold concentration where I live. Mine is a small country though. I know Germany and Canada have the same max.
Around here up until recently there were freebase liquids up to 24 and salts up to 65. You could even get your hands on 100mg freebase concentrate if you’re a shop owner or eliquid producer. But just a couple months earlier a law passed that limits all to 20 and puts extortionate taxes on all liquids no matter the concentration. Two of the biggest franchises straight up closed their entire businesses the moment it went through. The rest posted own obituaries on their sites about how fucked they are and how they are basically hanging by the thread now. But I think they’ve overreacted. Sure, the prices would go up at least 7 times, but in neighboring countries the limits are as low as 3mg if not outright banned, but business is still going. I myself just bought out the entire shelf from one of smaller stores that sold old stock from under the counter. Should last me until winter, but I think I’ll have to move to some better place by then.
I’ve vaped since 2013 and have literally never heard of this. Could be regional 💁♂️
probably is. personally never heard anything other than percentages
50mg is also a metric fucton of nic in a vape. My strong mixes are 13mg, and low nic is 4mg.
My wife uses 50mg saltnic, it’s crazy. I tried hitting it once and dear god my head was spinning.
When vapes came out and the devices were shitty and produced low amounts of vapor, the highest I saw was 30mg and 24mg, and the “marlboro red” equivalent was 18mg.
This is literally how I quit, except I did it intentionally.
But this is fake because the jump from 0.001 to 0.000 was like the ground disappearing beneath my feet.
For the previous week I was only using 0 nic juice in a pod that previously held a tiny amount of nic (we’re talking trace amounts near the end - I wasn’t feeling a thing).
Anyway I thought I was going through withdrawal so hard with the 0 nic in the used pod, but NOPE switch to 0 nic in a fresh pod and it was like “welcome to withdrawal 2.”
Still really happy I quit though. It’s so great not going into a panick whenever I misplace my vape for like 42 seconds. That was always so fucking humbling.
I’ve also done this to quit vaping. I’ve quit cold turkey a couple times, but diluting like this was by far easier for me. Still difficult, especially when going to zero nic, but it worked.
For sure, if cold turkey hasn’t worked for someone, I would recommend this option. As hard as it was, it actually stuck (haven’t had nic in several years), unlike the hundreds of other times I tried to quit
Finally, some hard evidence for homeopathy
Tack a few more zeros in there and sure.
oh no please don’t
/s
I am aware but I am afraid some people might actually be inspired by this!
Well, as a full disclaimer on my part, to anyone reading there are far less expensive ways to activate your body’s limited placebo response than homeopathy™ branded products
lmao that’s exactly what I did to quit nicotine altogether. Vaped off of cigarettes, then started lowering the nicotine until about of month of zero, then just stopped completely about two years ago.
But this was when you could order custom nicotine level juice and get it sent though the mail. I figured out that this was too good to last, so I lowered my concentrations kinda quickly. This was fortunate, because not long after I quit, the last high quantity e-juice company I sourced from closed up shop.
TBDLiquids, B-X Vapor, and Blue Dot Vapors, you were the GOAT.
I still have the last half bottle or so of zero nicotine juice as a reminder. So glad I was able to beat the addiction in time.
Regulations having the exact opposite effect than desired. Classic.
The story is a bit controlling/manipulative in my opinion. Even if the net outcome is good I’d feel like I was overstepping a boundary if I did this to my partner.
It sounds so freaking fake too.
Tbh, I hope it’s real and this woman is free from vape addiction. There’s a question here about boundaries but what strikes me the most is that I can’t take it seriously. The tone is just so characteristic of these 4chan green texts. No details, no heart. Straight to the point. Short enough to get a bunch of upvotes.
He wrote it like it’s a simple story that happened within a week. It just feels manufactured
It’s not manipulation if the manipulatee benefits from it. Besides, he saved her from cancer. Fuck cancer.
Ehh, it’s still manipulation, yeah. No one should have that kind of control over you. What he should have done was talk to her about this method that might work to quit vaping, and help her do it. That way he’s not doing all this crap behind her back.
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How long does it takes to vape a bottle?
How big a bottle and how efficient the vape? When I did regularly if I recall a 30 ml bottle would last about a week. That switching from a pack/day smoking for comparison of volume.
Anon sounds like a genuinely good partner
meh, good intentions but tampering with someones consumables without permission is assault if you ask me.
If she’s old enough to vape then she’s old enough to make the decisions for herself
but she also wanted to quit. this seems fine by me, cuz that shit ain’t healthy and anon wasnt forcing her the idea of quitting since she had already tried to do it herself, and the anon also wasn’t taking the feeling of winning away from her. just a little white lie to help her achieve her goals.
if she wouldn’t want to quit though, that would be pretty fucked
“if she wouldn’t want to quit though”
she didn’t really get a change to make that decision for herself though, did she?
“get’s very frustrated with herself because she’s tried several times to quit”
the second line bro
i keep going back and looking for the bit where he specifically asked if he could start mixing random substances into her vape juice but i just can’t find it. perhaps you could point it out for me?
Edit: “My gf was complaining about not being able to sleep so i started putting sleeping pills in her drinks”… that’s what you sound like
Not random substances, just like diluting vodka with water is not mixing in a random substance.
But don’t you know H²0 is a chemical???
they never said random substances, you can literally just add the base substance to make it milder. drugging somebody is not comparable at all
i don’t think you know what rape is
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You’re getting shit because rape is an extremely serious act and diluting the severity of it by describing other violations with its language is not acceptable to most people.
How hard would it have been to say “betrayal of trust” or “violation of personal property and control over what she puts in her body?”
When you get lazy with your language we all suffer. Be better.
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I don’t think you understand how addiction works
I don’t think you understand how tampering with stuff that people put inside their bodies might be unethical
If she’s old enough to vape then she’s old enough to make the decisions for herself
I’m not addressing the tampering stuff, I’m addressing this very misguided statement
Assault is when I nerf my partner’s vapes
He’s dating a vaper, so he can’t be good
You have a good point
A rusty nail on a park bench kind of “point” though
Well smokers are jokers, and they need help to stop their harmful addiction
Man, I’d love to do this but I’d feel so bad lying. My partner is trying to stop though, so I am going to show him this juice. Successful marketing, I guess. Could be worse. :)
Wouldn’t she just use it more often and ultimately get roughly the same dose?
Not if you only hit it in certain circumstances, i.e breaks at work, out drinking, etc.
That kind of 1%/week gradual decrease would probably lead to less of an addiction to line up with less of a dose as well.
It’s possible, but frequency is determined by more factors than simply relief from nicotine withdrawal. It’s also possible that reducing concentration very slightly doesn’t change the overall equation enough to actually drive behavioral change. But I’d agree that outcomes are better secured with conscious intent. I think quitting successfully and meaningfully means learning resilience against compulsion to engage in behaviors driven by chemical reactions in the brain, which this approach doesn’t do at all.
And then the gf decides she wants to try a new flavor, buys her “normal” nic strength, and fills her vape up with it before anon has a chance to dilute it.
This would actually work out fine because she’d get he new bottle, hit it as hard as she did with her diluted bottles, then to proceed to throw up. The nausea alone from nicotine overdose should be a decent deterrent.
Nausea isn’t overdose but that’s a technicality, what I wanted to say is that it’s quite hard to get to nausea off a single puff no matter the nic strength because it tastes, for lack of better term, sharp, very noticeably so. Coming off low-concentration juice you’d notice before the vapour goes past your tongue.
As someone who “quit” nicotine and picked it up again later multiple times… The first hit after a while felt amazing every time. Unfortunately. No nausea at all.
The first hit is great.
The third or fourth will get you.
For like 20 minutes, or if you had a normal brain, sure
Isnt fine tuning tour dosage literally the point of vapes? There are a lot of fluids with different levels of nicotine. Also from 50% you would fucking die. Its probably 50mg.
If this was legit, she actually would’ve quit by herself. The withdrawal symptoms would all be there, just dragging much longer and somewhat more diluted (!) than cutting off cold turkey.
I mean on the one hand they’ve made someone who’s pretty likely to be an asshole to addicts and about addiction for the rest of her life, believing she got over it without any of the problems others describe and thinking they’re making excuses or being weak/wimps; and also put her self-esteem up on a pedestal that’ll fall over if she ever finds out, but hopefully it doesn’t come to that…
Give her a menthol candy, this will help.
Diluting 50 times you’d need one hell of an amount of “dilution formula”.
It’s eazy to buy:
10 liters - you will never need to buy again.
For those who literally just got a pic in Russian - this is a 10L (12,5kg) canister of 99,8% pure food-grade glycerol
Автор, не забывай, что по-русски тут почти никто не говорит :D
Это добавляло таинственности “разбавителю”. Вроде канистра, а вроде и не понятно.
Вообще ещё лучше было бы, если на канистре была бы написана или изображена формула. Подсказка для знающих химию, но не знающих русский.
Хитроумно)
It’s called water
Pure water will work for a couple of percentage points but above that will not work properly because atomisers expect a certain range of viscosity or they won’t wick properly. It’s generally a mix of propylene glycol, glycerine, and water. More glycerine means more clouds, natural sweetness, and annoying hygroscopy (i.e. you’ll get a dry mouth), while PG is an aroma carrier, less sweet, quite a bit less hygroscopic. It’s also the standard solvent for nicotine and aroma, not just vape aromas most food aromas are PG-based, too. Water is there to make the liquid less viscous and/or reduce hygroscopy of the overall mixture.
Why?
Let’s say the original bottle contained 100ml of liquid at a concentration of 50%. You want to want to bring the final concentration down to 1%. You take a new bottle with 98ml of “dilution formula” (probably water) and add 2 ml of the original concentration to it. You now have a liquid with 1% concentration.
