What would be The Linux that works for most windows games and majority of enterprise corporate software? Or a linux version that can get older warez windows software to work, like Photoshop CS 6 and the like?
Garuda Linux Gaming Edition is another option if you can get over the teenage “Dr4gonized” theme. I’d recommend it over PopOS because it’s basically Arch with everything you need for a smooth transition from Windows pre-installed. PopOS is Ubuntu-based.
Garuda has been great to me. Changing the universal theme in KDE is a really painless process, too.
Mint.
popOS just because they have an installer that includes nvidia drivers out of the box.
Mint also does, no?
dunno, if it does, then yay?
I second this. Works almost flawlessly out of the box (I had to install another version of the Nvidia driver from the pop shop because my 3080 didn’t like the 470 version but other than that I had no issues, except with some games that require a kernel level anticheat)
1Ooh that sounds nice, because I have an Nvidia card.
Installing pop os on my desktop failed.
How ? I did manage to accidentally lock myself out of my main Nvme drive the first time because I chose the encryption option and fucked up the password because of keyboard layout shenanigans, so I reinstalled it without encryption because I’m the only person with access to this PC anyway, but everything else went smooth as butter.
I don’t remember the error, but it was the Nvidia edition on my old 2016 bought desktop. I restarted the install 3 times, and it failed at the same point.
I still don’t have an OS on it at the moment, because the error was after formatting.
Was it some vendor’s prebuilt PC maybe ? Those can have some weird parts that can be hard to get to work properly on Linux.
It wasn’t potentially and I ran several Linux distributions on it over the years, including Manjaro and mint.
Linux mint cinnamon but cool cool
Or OpenSUSE Tumbleweed
Huge respect for not putting Ubuntu
Windows 10 LTSC 2021 edition has support until January 13th 2032.
I’d obviously prefer if more people gave Linux a try but if you’re literally forced to use Windows then it’s probably your best option right now.
If my Nvidia graphics card played nicely, I would.
It’s my #1 complaint with Linux… Well Nvidia.
Progress in that regard is actually pretty rampant lately, I can imagine by the time Windows 10 is EOL it will be no different from AMD.
Well, it will be slightly different. AMD releases open source drivers. That’s why it works so much better. Nvidia releases proprietary ones and let’s the community handle the open source ones. To the end user, there probably won’t be much difference eventually, but it does hurt progress so they’ll always be slightly behind where they could be.
One of the latest developments is an open-source Nvidia driver developer being hired by Nvidia and continuing their work on it, so it’s technically not fully true anymore. They’ll definitely stay behind for a while longer but it seems to finally be looking good for once.
*for 20-series and later graphics cards
Installed Linux alongside windows 10. Cachy OS specific with drivers 555 running Wayland without any issues :)
What card you using? I have a RTX 3080 and it’s worked fine on Endeavour/KDE (besides Wayland)
Not sure what you have, what your trying to do, and am pretty new to Linux myself, but I’m running KDE neon with a 3070, and after a little work to get drivers updated I’ve had minimal issues!
I’m not doing anything too crazy though, mostly web browsing and gaming is all.
Which card do you possess?
Rtx 3080 12gb vram
🤔that should work with wayland…
Well now you have me wanting to try it again.
The main issue I’ve been having is getting two monitors to work.
Install Linux, one monitor works. Let’s try changing the driver, permanent black screen.
Reinstall Linux, well maybe I can make one monitor work. Nope. Let’s try and change the driver using the terminal. Oh black screen again.
Ok I’ll only use Linux for coding on one monitor, Windows update somehow lost the boot loader for Linux. I’m not good on grub so I just removed Linux afterwards.
I have another older computer, still Nvidia. Let’s do a clean install. No windows, just Linux. Configure proton on steam, hmm it doesn’t launch games. It just says starting then nothing. No errors. Let’s try different compatibilities, still no errors.
What I experienced is, Linux doesn’t tell you what You’re doing wrong, it just doesn’t work. Which isn’t going to work for the majority of computer users.
If something is having an issue, I want to know why, which unfortunately and fortunately Windows does a good job on.
I found the best working linux for me is endeavorOS, which istalls Arch and package manager yay If you want to install anything just write yay „anything“ and choose what to install from the list (google „aur „answer to anything“ „ to check which answer is the app you want) For installing proprietary NVIDIA drivers, there is a tool preinstalled (have to google the name) if you really want.
I’ll try endeavor next time.
If I can get overwatch and steam games to work, I would leave Windows in a heart beat. But I’m also at the point in my life where I can’t spend hours troubleshooting.
All jokes aside, after hearing that EOL is coming to Win10 this October, I have decided over the summer, before fall quarter is in and I’m back to start my 2nd year of college, that I would definitely be taking everything I need/want off of my desktop and switch to something like mint or MX because of how simple and user friendly they’ve been to me as someone who’s only been using Linux for maybe 2-3 years. Only things I would I need are dedicated time and personal drive to pull that off and a new external drive for storing all my files.
Next October.
For me “next” October and “this” October are the same, lol
The next October I see is in 2024…
Maybe I am strange, but i‘d say October next year to avoid misunderstandings
October 2025.
Even more precise 💪🏻
I’ve got selective sight, I guess.
I’m to dumb for ARCH, and I find default Fedora and Ubuntu very annoying (although I haven’t tried them in a while). I did have a good experience with mint several years ago. What distros should I consider?
Debian
I am running EndeavourOS which is arch wrapped in an installer and easy updater oneliner to update all your system and AUR packages. Still do have to interact with pacman and yay to install most things but really gives you a leg up to get started.
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Linux Mint, Pop!_OS and ZorinOS are pretty nice for new users. If you want to get a little more advanced, maybe check out something like Fedora Atomic (e.g. Kinoite, Silverblue) or Universal Blue (Bazzite, Aurora, Bluefin). Arch isn’t actually that hard, they have an installation script that makes everything super easy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YE1LlTxfMQ), or you could watch a video on how to install it manually (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JYIAaLrwcY, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC7NMbl4goo)
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
https://www.piped.video/watch?v=8YE1LlTxfMQ
https://www.piped.video/watch?v=_JYIAaLrwcY
https://www.piped.video/watch?v=YC7NMbl4goo
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.
currently trying to move my mom to linux because she hates windows spyware (especially with co-pilot), will be trying zorin and mint with her.
unrelated but is libreoffice calc good for basic excel stuff? she isnt doing anything very very complex on it, but if something breaks i do NOT want to install windows and go through that whole thing again. (i do not use libreoffice calc, just writer and sometimes draw for pdfs)
Never really used Excel or LibreOffice Calc either, but I think it should be fine. OnlyOffice is another option to check out.
wasn’t onlyoffice bought out by a corp?
You might be thinking of OpenOffice? OnlyOffice is at least open core under AGPL.
Mint has became Linux 7 IMO. It just works.
Mint. Try them all out here: https://distrosea.com free, no downloading.
How about PopOS?
Fedora is really nice now
Fedora is too stable and boring, same as Debian and Opensuse, Ubuntu is just ugly
Hahaha, too stable and boring… Do you use OSs as a form of entertainment? No wonder why people can’t take Linux enthusiasts seriously.
Fedora is too stable and boring, same as Debian and Opensuse, Ubuntu is just ugly
The rpm-ostree versions are exciting and powerful.
Zorin if you want a simple to use system, or with a different learning curve OpenSUSE if you want GUI configuration for everything that would be CLI based in another distro. YAST2-GUI GTK has everything covered from setting up services, tweaking kernel, to adding users, altering hardware setup, GUI package selections and snapshots for rollback if you accidentally wreck your system.
Fedora is great, if you don’t like the default UI (I am a GNOME hater btw) you can easily try out one of the Fedora Spins with a different desktop environment while keeping Fedora’s stability and features. I recommend Fedora KDE for faster machines and Fedora Cinnamon for older machines or people that want something that’s snappier.
Mint is still basically mint from several years ago. Having tried a dizzying array of them it continues to be easy and hated on because it doesn’t involve text based configing your life away. That said, because it lags behind compared to other distros in updating the kernel, the thing that makes new hardware work, it can have a hard time with things made recently. Try the edge ISO, which has a newer kernel. The team is working on more frequent updates, Wayland (a thing you ideally never have to ever know what it is), and just delivers a comfortable desktop experience since I first screwed up my computers with Linux in 2007.
Is LMDE easy tok? Snaps scare me. (I have Nvidia 30xx btw.)
Neither version of Mint use Snaps.
The Ubuntu version is still probably the best. You won’t have to think about graphics drivers or printers. It all sort of just… Works. They rip the awful out of Ubuntu and keep the excellent, world class, support in place. You’d be hard pressed for find a better commercial and non-commercial support. You can easily search for any problems you do run into and there will not be some esoteric DISCORD as your support. There are countless forms with literally thousands of people probably somewhat knowledgeable on how to address issues. Things like CUDA and dev work are also extremely supported. My barometer is how much time I have to crap away to get a printer and scanner work. Both of which just work with Linux Mint out of the box.
when i used mint, the things that would perfectly solve all my issues without any of them returning ever were 11 year old youtube videos with 1k views. mint community is the best /srs
Mint uses the good parts of Ubuntu without the bad parts.
btw
Let’s be honest, real nerds use Gentoo
(I wish I was that advanced, maybe some day.)
Not really any harder then Arch if you know about how linux systems work and didn’t just copy paste or script your entire arch installation.
a good starter distro but ideally you should make your own from scratch so you know what’s in it
Honestly you’re not a real one until you’ve written your own kernel entirely
You guys would have deployed your own internet protocol if this conversation continued
Writing your own internet protocol is a good idea but you shouldn’t stop there. You need to run your own internet cables too to make sure it does what you want and isn’t controlled by someone else.
And develop your own plastic to cover the cables?
And what are you going to cover with it if you haven’t even started mining your copper and inventing a machine to make your fiber optics.
Wait, maybe we need to start with the electromagnetic spectrum in general.
Oh my god😭
Linux has a good starter kernel but ideally you should
Better start compiling now so its ready by October
I started my Gentoo compile in 2008. It should be ready by next October.
I did it on sparc way back in the day, took a solid week. Once was enough
Old news, gentoo has binary packages as an option
What’s the point of using Gentoo if you don’t compile?
You don’t have to choose between binary and source, you can get some pre-compiled packages that you don’t care about, but e.g. run a custom kernel at the same time.
70% of the market. Half of those computers can’t even run windows 11. Good to see Microsoft taking charge in the fight against the environment by asking tens of millions of people to throw away their perfectly good computers and buy new ones
For real. I’m genuinely trying to grasp why. Is it seriously just so they can require secure boot and then say Windows 11 is secure from ransomware even though that’s a feature of the motherboard and not the OS?
They have added so much ad stuff and other garbage that the OS is slowing down, to combat the user perception that the OS is slow they have increased the hardware requirement.
Windows 10 can’t take screenshots at will…
That they will admit, at least.
The home-user PC market has been hit HARD by smartphones and tablets. Suburban families no longer have a desktop in a home office plus a laptop for each member of the family. They may have a laptop, and it’s probably a Mac.
This decision is too make people buy new devices or upgrade to an OS that has a lot more tracking built in.
Microsoft is pressing AI and other data-scraping tech hard, but they’re necessarily going to have to have enterprise and government licenses that allow admins to block those features for legal and security reasons.
So they desperately need new home users they can data-mine.
I see I sideload of Gentleman Agreement with the hardware vendors here:
- Hardware Vendors : “Oh No, The Market is Slowing Down!”
- Microsoft: “Hold My Beer, it’s Payback Time”
Everyone wins. Well, the usual suspects win as usual. The environment and the customer can go kiss Mr Gates and Mr Dell’s asses.
I can’t wait for some new bargain Linux machines.
Is this for real? They’re already quitting support for win10? Ain’t no fucking way I’m going to win11 so Linux it is I guess.
Bro linux is SO FUCKING GOOD nowadays, you’re going to love it. Debian, Arch, whatever its all gravy
I like how they end support for OS without providing an upgrade for a lot of people. Might as well put a Linux ad in their “Your PC is not supported” bullshit.
My laptop which is still perfectly usable doesn’t have support for 11. Im probably gonna switch to mint or popos but I know lots of ppl that dont have new laptops and they just fucked? And there are tons of end users that just have no desire to learn some of the intricacies of linux even if it is something mostly simple like mint. They’re gonna have to support security updates when they see the adoption numbers. Just like they had to do with 7 till they basically got to 10.
Now now, let’s keep honest here. They did provide option to install Win 11 on unsupported hardware. It’s just slightly hidden, prolly to avoid people bricking their pc’s an blaming MS. And also it won’t update.
They even have a guide on how to install Linux: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/linux/install
“Bare Metal Linux”. I like it!
From which program did you edit this? Which brush?
Wdym?
Gimp or krita or what?
I was trying to make a joke about this being legitimate and not an edit lol
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\ you dropped this
shoving down mandatory AI down everyone’s throats I see? Probably part of a behind the scenes push by government or sth since they will be tracking and recording everything going forwards. I can even see people crying “But think of the AI!”
skynet
btw
