I stopped paying for and using spotify when they a. renewed their contract with Joe Rogan b. changed their music payment policy so that if you aren’t trending, you make no money.
Fuck Spotify.
if you aren’t trending, you make no money
What now?
No payment for sub-1000 streams/year
In total per artist or per album or song or what?
To be fair, that equates to just above 3 USD per year if the numbers from the other post are correct.
Yeah, and although greedy, maybe not enough to ruffle feathers over.
Seems low tbh
Weird. I got noone telling me to listen vinyl on a hand driven Grammophone right now
Maybe lemmy is too popular for the hipsters.
Why would you leave tempo control in tge hands of a soulless machine? #beyourownconductor
It’s a good idea tho
Fuck Spotify. You’re better off - in every way - pirating and buying one album a year
The last album I bought was slim shady in like 2001. I don’t even have anything that plays CDs anymore.
So? Buy a digital album. There’s plenty of ways, including, but not limited to, bandcamp.
Edit: Also, I never said ‘CDs’
That implies it’s even goddamn possible to get music files. It’s a lot harder than I expected if they don’t have bandcamp. I suspect region also fucks with it.
Buying an album every month and ripping it for mobile is literally cheaper than Spoofy. No pirating required and there’s a real chance the artist might get a share!
Edit: I do mean a CD, or vinyl if that tickles your fancy.Thank you. I was trying to make it seem super low effort. I still have all my CDs but pretty much just buy vinyl and FLAC these days.
Lidarr + Jellyfin + Finamp… Need I say more?
Yes now tell us how to get that working on any device I have regardless of what network I’m connected to. Assume I’m behind a cgnat, don’t have my own domain, and know fuck all about networking.
Finally compare all that hassle to just paying a few bucks per month.
In the same boat. Shit country, behind CGNAT, no money for domain. I found a cheap seedbox I use. Yeah it depends on whether it’s worth the hassle… For me, I like tinkering with software and I love the concept of owning my media and that no company has their eyes on my data, so it’s worth it. But if you just wanna lay down and watch, Netflix it is. Something always breaks when you self-host 🥲
Honestly this. I’d love to maintain my own database of music, but streaming services did something right to make it so accessible.
Prices will need to hit a breaking point to scare people away, and even then they will keep using the next easiest thing (e.g. YT Music + ad block in my case).
It really just needs to get annoying enough to use. In my case, I enjoyed it for music discovery, but then its recommendation algorithm got like YouTube where one stray listen just wrecked my discover weekly playlist for a month. I have one friend who’s really into jazz, and maybe once every few months, I would click on one of his recommendations to see if he had found something that clicked for me. It got to the point where I stopped clicking on pretty much any recommendations, because Spotify would see that one song a quarter and go “Hold up,I think this guy wants nothing but atonal Yugoslavian free jazz in his playlist for the next month straight!”
Yes, because I have no idea what any of those things are.
Piracy and self hosting your music streams
I gave up Spotify partly because they support Joe Rogan, but also because I mostly listen to classical music, and they kept shuffling in Britney Spears.
Spotify tends to think my tastes are more indie than they are, meanwhile YouTube Music (ReVanced) tends to to think my tastes are more mainstream than they are.
I haven’t tried any other services yet, but if anyone knows of one that provides good balance of well-known and not so well-known music, and is free (and commercial free; modded/hacked apps are preferred), please let me know.
I actually think YouTube is better than most but that’s still not saying a lot. Maybe Tidal.
Every time I start the app up it has some Taylor Swift or other pop music in the thing where whatever I was listening to previously should be. I’ve never searched for pop music so I’m not sure why they think that’s helping.
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I made the mistake of telling YouTube to download songs it “thinks” i would like. My library is now filled with music I WILL NEVER LISTEN TO. And it’s going to take forever to clean it up.
Spotify pushed me to buy an old iPod and upgrade it to flash memory and a new battery. Sweet Sweet control baby
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I hate that stupid fucking smart shuffle, I have a playlist with 500+ songs but it only wants to play the first 20
I feel like I’m the only one around here who likes the Spotify recommendations. I’ve gotten so many bangers that fit my various little niche genre tastes.
I like getting recommendations, but that’s what the DJ is for. When I choose a playlist there’s usually a reason for it and adding random songs to it is not it.
See, I’d much rather just occasionally have to skip a song than listen to an AI mispronouncing band names.
It also cuts off the end of the song. Which is personally more irritating for me.
can’t labels and artists pay for some kind of premium placement in discover weekly, release radar, and playlist recs?
ok, after some research, found this:
In some cases, commercial considerations, such as the cost of content or whether we can monetize it, may influence our recommendations. For example, Discovery Mode gives artists and labels the opportunity to identify songs that are a priority for them, and our system will add that signal to the algorithms that determine the content of personalized listening sessions. When an artist or label turns on Discovery Mode for a song, Spotify charges a commission on streams of that song in areas of the platform where Discovery Mode is active (Discovery Mode is not active in our editorial playlists). This signal increases the likelihood of the selected songs being recommended, but does not guarantee it.
so, at the very least, the recs you get are definitely not organic, and favor major labels, rich folks, and if Spotify can make any money off streaming the track in the first place
not saying the algorithm doesn’t get it right most of the time (they’d be shooting themselves in the foot if it was all sponsored), but if it’s favoring big labels and drowning out everyone else in the name of revenue for Spotify, I prefer to choose other ways to find new stuff. if Spotify needs more money to pay the bills, imho they should plainly be asking the consumers up front
The feature itself is fine, the fact that it’s literally in between you and turning regular shuffle on and off is incredibly irritating
Bro so, Spotify is trippin on me. In my discover weekly it hit me with some bullshit called No cock like horse cock.
It started recommending gay playlists. Now I’m straight but I’m far from homophobic. Realized an artist I was listening to was gay so I let off. Then I got hit with another. And traced that one back to another artist. This one wasn’t so bad but it hit the chorus and went from a chill song to talking bout nuts slapping nuts.
I have to listen to their music outside of Spotify because honestly the recommendations are atrocious.
I listen to a meme song cause it’s stuck in my head and now what? The degeneracy of the Internet is my backyard. Featuring balls in my jaws, the Christmas edition and many more.
I often listen to my music while driving, and sometimes I just scroll and don’t look at song titles until something catches my attention.
Don’t mind the work truck. Also here’s my wrapped. Jake Hill I learned was a culprit lol.
That fact that this is coming from a lemmynsfw.com account is beautiful
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Why is Spotify’s shuffle so abysmally awful? It’s nigh on useless
This has some answers: https://youtu.be/OdLyKETk5o0?si=UcD2zCBHVLKZSTsu
Alternative:
Your whole queue is gone and I’ll just stop playing after this song
My queue disappearing is my number one issue with Spotify. It happens at the most inconvenient time, after I have spent ages getting it all together. I usually give up after that.
I hate how when trying to add a song to my playlist not knowing if I already have it in my playlist, Spotify web UI sometimes successfully detects duplicate songs but most of the time doesn’t. It’s very inconsistent and I can’t figure out why other than them maybe A/B testing features?
I think it’s because Spotify frequently includes the same song as being on multiple albums separately–for example, if a band has a greatest hits album, Spotify considers the greatest hits album as a different song, even though it’s identical to the song on the original album.
They could even just be loose singles that are different. My list looks like I have 3 duplicates of Cumbersome by Three Mary Six; they’re all actually different versions of the song but since 2 of them were single releases and didn’t have an original album, they use the same album artwork the studio version is from.
