At it’s most basic concept, there’s nothing stopping a God from creating all this and giving us the free will to explore it. It’s the specific doctrine of man made organized religion that contradicts itself and science.

One of my favourite biochemistry tutors at university was also a reverend. We never spoke about the overlap but I’ve read his books since graduating and it’s interesting to see how his faith augments his science and vice versa.

I had a similar experience when I started my first job as a software developer and the owner / lead engineer, probably the most intelligent person I’ve ever met, told me about how is religious.

I just couldn’t compute, particularly as I’d be radicalised against religion online.

We have had many discussions and it become clear that he had thought more about his faith than I ever could and who was I to judge his position if he isn’t hurting people then he can believe what he likes.

As you said, its a philosophical belief and not that he believes in a being per se, but that there is something deeper to the universe.

There are phylosophy of science, sociology and psycology. They aren’t completely disconnected.

Idk. My dad has always liked going to church. My family is catholic, I don’t really engage in any of it anymore. But my dad has always been a proponent of science. His opinion is that religion and science can inform each other.

He believes in evolution. He knows vaccines work. And he certainly is not a trumper. He also likes to tell the story of how the big bang was initially hypothesized by a catholic priest.

i mean, the main issue is that theologues base their beliefs on the belief that some old texts hold universal truths

Biblecore

People take this to mean evangelizing, but still don’t see anything wrong with passing laws about their religion’s morality.

and don’t insist that every part of the holy texts are literally 100% undiluted word of god, which generally makes religion way easier to integrate with a scientific worldview.

no, god did not create eve from adam’s rib, that’s just evocative storytelling initially written by people in the middle east 2000 years ago and repeatedly altered and translated since then.

If we all respected that rule from all sides, we’d have a lot less unnecessary hatred and death.

You’re addressing wrong people with that

The first sentences be true, then it drives off a whacky tangent, or what science calls “a cliff”.

The first sentence isn’t true at all, science doesn’t try and disprove god at all. It’s just inconvenient for people who used to explain things as ‘god made it’ that science didn’t manage to prove that.

Science is the only belief system that tries to falsify theorems. So rather than daarin something is true, we try to prove something is false. That doesn’t gel with a system that supposes to have the absolute answer to all things.

However it doesn’t say you can’t believe what you want, just that it might not be true.

If religion wasn’t behind some of the worst atrocities on the planet you might have a point, but the largest religions also are the ones that tend to be fundementally intolerant.

Once an irrational belief in magical spirits starts effecting other people and how our society is run that’s when it becomes something people actively need to be convinced not to believe. They need to cope with reality, not hide from it.

…single theory hypothesis remains.

A hypothesis is an observation stated in a falsifiable fashion, which allows it to be tested. Once a hypothesis has been tested thousands of times and always generates the same outcome, then it can become a theory.

Nonetheless, you know whats up, science proving shit only happens when the stars align. But disproving shit is super valuable as it allows researchers to reassess the hypothesis and experimental design in hopes of proving shit sooner rather than later.

It doesn’t really disprove things either, but can be used to eliminate specific claims as not supported by evidence.

Eugenics was an awkwardly popular movement not that long ago.

Not true. Scientists say I can’t lick needles I find in the park or stab myself with rusty nails or eat monkey brains scientists keep taking my rights away 😭😭😭

To be fair, it’s more like that annoying friend who babbles on and on about what they think is going to happen. They’re never quite sure, and are always changing their mind as the movie keeps going.

Twas the original purpose of natural philosophers to find proof of God’s existence.

I think the point is that science by existing works to disprove the existence of God. For example, Darwin was not trying to disprove the existence of God when he wrote about evolution, but by doing so he supported the case that god does not exist.