What are you talking about with the weed? It’s sold in pounds, ounces, quarter ounces and “half quarters” which is as ridiculously un-metric as it gets.
Gosh, I wonder how many grams there are in a quarter ounce?
We used to just call that an eighth.
Yes, but a metric eighth.
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My theory on this is we use the imperial weights when describing the size in relation to the jail time associated with getting caught with it and then switch to metric for personal use.
I guess because no one buys 20 pounds of weed, but 20 grams is just fine…
Should have bullet measurements instead
Sold in grams for small amounts, then back to Imperial for larger amounts.
Yes, the very metric package sizes using multiples of 7.
It doesn’t matter what the multiple is. It could be 28.35g exactly, it’s still metric because of the unit.
Their point was that while it’s using metric, all the available sizes are based on imperial amounts.
And all Imperial amounts are based on the SI system (the official name for metric). That’s basically the point of having a standard.
I’m really not sure what the big deal is that the packaging uses the metric equivalent of the unit used in the US, which is one of the main countries that many businesses worldwide serve. That’s also the case with butter (1 lb to 454g), cream cheese (8 oz to 250g), etc.
Bro can you post that to me in Australia
I don’t think I’ve seen a gram for sale since legalization. I see pre-rolls and half-quarters. Weighed in grams but packaged in imperial.
1g prerolls are actually the only round-number metric sale I see.
Right. I haven’t seen a 1g bag sold ever.
Some of us are comfortable going both ways.
But don’t tell anybody because I live in Texas.
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There was that one time where a NASA mission was ruined because they used the wrong units
There was that one time QC failed you mean.
Mars climate orbiter.
The Apollo Guidance Computer did all computations in metric and then converted them to display in Standard units for the benefit of the astronauts.
Europeans literally see no irony in throwing shade at Americans for hanging onto their traditional measurement system, while also speaking 27 different languages in the span of a few hundred miles.
Maybe come down off your high horse until you get that situation sorted, eh? >.>
Edit: Oops, I thought it would be safe to make a joke a in a meme thread.
well, language is culture, and we all know how cultured the states are.
Whenever I post something on the internet, I do so in English, since that’s a language most people on this world speak. I’d love it if Americans did the same with measurements when writing down recipes on the internet. I’m sorry for this offensive opinion.
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Als ge liever wilt, kan ik het ook in het Nederlands doen. Op het internet spreek ik over het algemeen Engels, aangezien dat een taal is die nagenoeg iedereen spreekt. Ik zou het vree tof vinden als Amerikanen dat ook zouden doen met maten en gewichten in hun recepten. Sorry om zo kort van antwoord te zijn.
Being colonised be the English does that to your native languages
Source: am Irish
Yeah, but you still have work tool measurements in 5/8, 7/32, and 13/64 or whatever the fuck dumbass measurements.
I say this as an American that hates the way tools use measurments here.
I specifically prefer woodworking in fractional inches. I’ve had this argument on Lemmy before and it basically goes:
“But inches bad! Metric good! Fractions bad! Powers of ten good!”
“I mean yeah okay but I nearly never have to divide by ten in the wood shop, I do have to divide by two or three or four, and since we mill stock to finished dimensions that are usually 3/2*x inches, most commonly 3/4” or 3/2" it’s trivial to do. Cutting mortise one third the board’s width in 3/4" stock ends up being exactly 1/4" wide. Easy. The metric world usually mills boards to 19mm, which is pretty close to 3/4" so it’s suitable for the same applications. Show me the line on a metric tape measure that indicates one third of 19mm."
“But Americans use inches so it must be dumb and bad!”
I use metric for quite a lot of things, I learned chemistry and physics in metric in school, I vastly prefer doing mechanical and engineering things in metric. I learned carpentry (structure building) in inches but I could cope with metric there, I learned how to fly in mostly US customary units (distances in nautical miles, speeds in nautical miles per hour aka knots, altitude and runway lengths in feet, pressures in PSI, temperature in °C) I could cope with different units there. I’m not giving up inches in the furniture shop though, because working in fractions works to well.
But yeah the faster we can erase fractional inch wrenches from the world the better. “What’s one size louder than 3/4?” “Ah shit 6/8…12/16, plus 1…13/16.”
Except there’s an easy way to mark thirds: if you have a, let’s say, 27 cm wide board you take the measuring by skewing a little the tape and measuring 30 cm. You mark 10 cm and 20 cm and there you have it: a third of the wide. You don’t even need the precise measure. If you have something with proportional marks you just use it and you get a third no matter the width. It’s like a center finder but with thirds (or fourths or…)
That will likely work for the length or width of boards, but what about thickness? Mark out a mortise and tenon on a 19mm thick board with that technique and tell me how it goes.
This is the kind of shit I’m talking about. You see these kinds of “Nuh uh, it’s not a problem, you just learn all these hacky workarounds” excuses out of the inch-ounce crowd, where you “just have different measuring cups for that” or “our butter packaging has tablespoon markings on it” but in the wood shop it’s the other way around because the physical tasks are inherently easier to express as fractions rather than decimals, so I’m the one saying “I just measure it with my tape measure or combo square or ruler and it’s right.” and the metric crowd keep going “Nuh uh, it’s not a problem, you just learn all these hacky workarounds.”
Or you can do a division and that’s it.
19mm / 3 = 6.3333mm. Come on over here and show me the six point three three three three millimeter line on my metric tape measure.
2" / 3 = 0.666666666 Show me that point in you tape measure 😜
And both cases can be fixed by just skewing a little the tape (19 mm -> 21 mm and 2" -> 2.1". Close to 20°)
2 inches isn’t a common size for stock. 1.5 inches is though.
And you want to come show me 2.1" on my standard tape measure?
Depends what kind of work you do, mechanics work in metric only, construction is in Imperial…
Mechanics work in metric mostly. You still come across some imperial sizes occasionally. Though recently that’s been getting standardized a lot better.
Recently?
Metric has been standard in cars for decades…
I mean, that might be true, but I work on a lot of shit that’s right around 20 years old. It’s mostly metric. But I keep a set of standard sockets around that I’ve had to pull out once or twice. Sometimes it’s been because of swollen bolts but sometimes I’m pretty damn sure that’s a 5/16.
I can guarantee it’s either someone that put the wrong bolt there or it’s due to rust.
All American cars have been fully metric since the 90s (with a push during the Carter years as well), Japanese cars since the 60s… Maybe you’ve had to work on a x.5mm bolt but that’s extremely rare.
Then there’s planes, and trains and also ships. Ships can have parts and systems from god knows when
Ayo the car thing is absolute bullshit.
10mm bolt for the fuckin brake caliper but 3/8 for the fuckin slide bolts?
Get the fuck outta here
GM has been using all metric for years now.
I especially hate the T series bolts
Don’t know what car you’re driving but I think you’re just using the wrong size wrench/Allen key
My last car was a 2012 ford fiesta. The lug nuts are 19mm. The caliper bolts were 10mm and the slide bolts were 3/8.
The car before that was a 2001 cavalier. Not only did it have metric and standard bolts but the slide bolts were fuckin Allen heads.
Like literally why?
Probably because they were made by American car manufacturers and couldn’t make a logical or consistent design decision if their lives depended on it.
Like I’m not even an engineer and I’m just screaming about the dumbest decisions made by people who make more in a week than I make in a year 😭
The last one I ran into is that the Windshield Washer Fluid Reservoir in a Chevy Bolt is about 1/4 cup smaller than a standard 1 gallon jug of fluid. You could have expanded the diameter of the fill tube by less than 1/8 of an inch and fit that remaining 1/4 cup of fluid in there.
Yeah, but the difference is that they made it so you need an extra socket or an alan wrench. I think you’d have made dumb decisions that were a little bit more deadly.
It’s usually cost. They have tooling to produce components that have probably been around decades. The cost of retooling just to change the fastener sizes may not be economically viable. Eventually these legacy components will be phased out and it will be 100% metric.
Soda bottles larger than 20 ounces…
Weed to uses a mix in Canada
You buy grams until it reaches the point where you’ve bought an ounce and then you go up to buying a half pound or a pound…
Makes no fucking sense.
then you go up to buying a half pound or a pound
good, strong flex there.
I use a mix
In the UK, weed is measured in authentic receding British imperial units where an ounce weighs one less gram every year.
Hah, nice
The army uses metric almost exclusively. It’s where I learned it.
Except in electronics. Everything is still .1 inch headers. We invented too many electronics and it’s stuck now.
It is also annoying that the electronics industry prefers the term “mil” for 1 thousands of an inch. Why not use “thou” like machinist use?
Not all of it though. Like JST plugs, barrel connectors, breadboard pin spacing, etc.
Yep. One “klick” is one km.
I think the main problem US people have with metric is their aversion to anything that has more than two syllables.
To be fair you sound like Data from TNG Season 1 if you say something like “Give them a centimeter, soon they have a meter.”
Far worse: It’s laziness.
I was teaching a friend how to make ravioli (yes, really) from the class I took while over in Italy. I bring my scale to measure the dough and the first thing she does is use the scale to get the right measurements and then, scrapes the contents into an imperial measuring cup. Worse, she was totally pissed when the semolina was not a perfect match to the 00 flour (mass and all that).
She is a tried and true American. She just wants to whip out her 1 cup without measuring weight and can’t fathom why the dough just “wasn’t like I taught her”.
By the way, the super secret Italian recipe is this: Ingredients per 2 people (spaghetti or tagliatelle) 100 grams total of: 50% white superfine flour 50% semolina Add 1 egg per 100 grams of flour
For ravioli, you want more superfine (00) flour so the pasta sticks together better. So like above, 100 grams total of: 60% superfine flour 40% semolina
Add 1 egg per 100 grams of flour.
But I want it to be one cup of egg!
Medium or large eggs, (the most common size) is about 5 eggs per cup, 4 per cup of extra large. - YMMV slightly depending the exact eggs your have.
Of course there’s a cup measurement for eggs.
What was I thinking.
To be honest, ain’t nobody using that measurement unless you are using commercial canned shelled eggs for speed. And even then you are probably just going to open the can and dump the whole thing. But it does show that the system is complete.
Rare indeed would be the home cooks/bakers that used that.
Go for it
What most people miss about weight vs volumetric measurement when cooking is that it’s all about ratios. And if you had been paying attention in math class, you would know that ratios are unit less. Which means as long as you keep the proper ratio between the ingredients, it matters not one whit on how you measure them. You can weight, you can use cups or spoons or handfuls and pinches to achieve the correct ratio. You even demonstrate this by stating that the ratio of flour to semolina is 1:1 or 3:2 depending on the end use. And one extra large egg, (about 55 grams or 2oz), should make for a decent conversion.
But before you change units of measure, you need to be sure that the changes still hold to with the tolerances of the recipe. Something most people can’t do very well - much like your friend.
And never forget - the true masters of fresh pasta making at home are all those little old Italian Grandmothers. And they are probably just eyballing it all anyway.
Which means as long as you keep the proper ratio between the ingredients, it matters not one whit on how you measure them. You can weight, you can use cups or spoons or handfuls and pinches to achieve the correct ratio.
The problem with converting a 1:1 ratio of ingredients measured by weight and a 1:1 ratio of ingredients measured by volume is density. Two different kinds of flour may pack differently and thus have different densities enough to effect the consistency of the dough. And with something like flour, a cup of sifted flour is less wheat and more air than a cup of scooped flour.
It’s all about the ratio. The density does not matter as much as you seem to think. Plus there is a tolerance built in. Just think, you so carefully measure everything out with weight (did you get the weight exact?). Then you randomly toss a bunch of bench flour down when you kneed the dough. You have literally no clue as to how much weight of flour/semolina the dough picked up. So it really doesn’t matter as much as you might think. Now your scale does make it easier for you. And that’s fine, I have a kitchen scale and use it regularly myself. But I understand it doesn’t matter as much as you seem to feel it does.
And again, those Italian Grandmothers are just eyeballin’ everything anyway.
Also, the imperial system is defined through the metric system.
In using imperial, you’re just using metric with extra steps.
No Python without C
Everything is just C with extra steps.
Which is just assembly with extra steps.
Or is it the other way around??
Sounds like someone made a trip to the Levi’s store
Hey look it’s Trowser!
nightmare nightmare nightmare
But no GIL if I’m not mistaken. Which means you can get some multi threaded tasks to run much faster without jumping through hoops.
My goto phrase when I want to troll people: “The creators of python called it that because they wanted a name that started with P, as a nod to its predecessor, Perl.”
It’s not exactly Ken M level, but post that anywhere and the amount of angry futile typing can faintly be heard around the world as other geeks start fuming.
I could feel a disturbance in the force 2 hours ago. Now I know it was precisely when you wrote this comment.
My goto troll-nods are all “subtle” which always makes me laugh harder and my trollees groan louder.
What a stupid reason to get angry.
Especially as everything needs to be rewritten in Rust anyways
The Imperial system is not defined though the metric system, the US Customary system is.
Your statement is incorrect
Since the Weights and Measures Act 1985, British law defines base imperial units in terms of their metric equivalent.
Supplemental article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_yard_and_pound
Don’t forget the most important US measurements of them all: 5.56, 7.62, 9, etc.
.308
Oh wait…
pls explain 🙂
.308 is caliber in inches thus not metric.
why do they use decimal for imperial units?
Because even people who worked in imperial recognized that dealing with stupid fractions is stupid.
It means the round fired by the gun is .308 inches in diameter, or 7.62mm. Gun caliber is measured in inches for Imperial.
Machining is often done in thousandths of an inch.
so why don’t they write 1/1000 in then?
Because, unlike internet pendants, machinists have shit to do.
Because they couldn’t rationalize using fractions.
I have a 77/250 rifle at home because I’m a real American.
🫡🇺🇲
.308 is 7.62, civilian measurement vs military (there’s actually implications related to pressures, sidewall thicknesses, machining tolerances, but yeah same same)
Yeah, it’s generally safe to shoot 7.62 from a 308-chambered gun, but not the other way around.
Same for 5.56 and .223.
Last panel should be the entire US Customary System, which is literally just a rescaling of the SI (“metric” system) units. US Customary is derived directly from SI.
I think most people are aware
Let’s not forget that the Apollo space program used SI units at every step, except for displaying it to the astronauts.
Have you ever done physics with non SI units? It is terrible and causes mistakes
And that a very expensive probe crashed into mars instead of landing because NASA used metric for all measurements but one contractor didn’t get the memo.
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NASA is also really funny and uses millimeters as their base unit for everything.
