Western society, as it is, is fucked for men. We are told to not be emotional, to not ask for help, to man up etc. etc. If a man, god forbid, does any of these things he gets ridiculed and shown next to no compassion. We get emotionally stunted from an early age and are told no one will help.
So should we be shocked that that averages out to less concern about others well being? It has taken me decades to undo the damage done by a cold harsh civilization. If we want anyone to show compassion they must first be shown compassion.
As a man I have to say this has not been my experience growing up at all. I can not relate to anything you just said. Maybe your small circle lacked proper role models?
Seems to be a regional thing from comments. But I’ve seen it up and down East Coast US and Midwest as well.
While it wasn’t my experience either, it has been the experience of some men that I talk to, and if you ever look at how conservative men talk, you can see that the “traditional man” concept is still being pushed on them.
If does seem like it’s getting better, but as you said, it definitely depends on your social and family circles.
There’s a lot of generalization going on here.
Sure, but the article itself is a generalization to by the nature of averages.
A lot of reddit too
Small wonder he didn’t blame women for it. It’s men putting other men down, and then some have the gall to say that it’s all women’s fault
It’s absolutely society as a whole. While I’ve experienced women do this shit, it’s more men on men.
We’re talking about statistics…. That’s the point
sadly they’re all correct.
Lol no. Speaking as a man, western society is MUCH worse for women.
I’ll never have to worry about dying of sepsis while a dead fetus rots inside me because politicians want to legislate their brand of morality.
And that’s just for starters.
we haven’t figured out yet how to turn men into heroes for saving the planet
Can’t fuck it, kill it, or eat it, so I guess it’s harder to make some men care
that’s really disgustingly simplistic, and entirely offensive, and you know that… it’s degrading to ALL men, not just the ones you don’t like…
me: some men are shitty
you: HOW ABSOLUTELY DARE YOU THIS IS AN INSULT TO ALL MEN
i know what you thought… i corrected you, dollface…
Nice try with the gendering, honeycakes
don’t get me turned on
Environmental activism? People even die for it like proper heroes!
Every year, more than 100 environmental activists are murdered throughout the world.
Although, to be fair, about half of them seem to be women.
i don’t mean there are no heroes… i mean, we haven’t found a way to give every single man the opportunity to be a hero every day saving the planet… this is why women care more, or whatever it is you’re trying to stipulate… as soon as a man - any man - can be a hero saving the planet, it will be a competition…
Probably because they aren’t idiots.
The people who are concerned about climate change must 1. Believe it is real, 2. Understand cause and effect, and 3. Have compassion for fellow humans. I’m guessing #3 is where the gender discrepancy lies.
Women are reliant on the function of civilization to prosper, they don’t do well when civilization breaks down, and they care for the welfare of their children.
Men tend to be more short-term focused, many think they’ll do better in a collapse scenario (it’s a very common male fantasy, many preppers believe having a gun and food when civilization ends will make them the hero), and also assume the best thing they can do for their kids is to leave them money, even at the cost of the overall society.
Yea … so in short, men lean psychopathic and women lean reasonable (stereotypically speaking, with however much divergence being potentially slight).
In the west, I’d suspect, beyond your comments, there’s a tendency for men to feel like they have to pretend to be “tough”, and often that translates into what the whole “toxic masculinity” thing is all about … just shitty and dumb behaviours to the point that caring about something important can “make you look like a wimp”.
I like a line Bill Burr threw at Joe Rogan when talking about vaccines etc, where Rogan said something stupidly “hyper-macho” and Burr straight way just yelled something to the effect of “Ok, let’s all just drag our knuckles along the floor like we’re apes now”.
I love the implication that men do well when civilization breaks down, as if we were somehow immune to hunger, disease and violence.
Yeah, it’s really funny. Because, when shit hit the fan, men are going to the grinder.
Go to /c/collapse, it’s a bunch of preppers trying to pretend that they’re not excited for the collapse of society.
So we have the politicians such as Rishi Sunak that are promoting policies that increase the probability of an ecological collapse, & then on the other extreme the preppers that are, well, at least preparing for a climate crisis.
It’s a stretch to think how things turned out so friggin crazy? 🤔 🤑 🤥
Yeah. My dick is going to make me a master survivalist. Trust me.
We aren’t, but we believe we are.
Don’t ask me, most other men I know believe they’d go full bear grylls the moment the power is off.
I know I’d be dead the first day.
Ehhhh. I give myself two weeks. Bit if a survivor I am.
Jfc I’m a man but never imagined this. I’d be lying if I didn’t think I’d find a way just because failure to protect my family is not an option, but I feel chest tightness when I imagine this becoming any sort of reality, because I recognize the reality of that scenario.
But I can totally imagine people with not enough sense to go beyond the fantasy story they’ve created for themselves. Like right wing welfare recipients, they are masochistic victims of their own making.
“think” being the key word.
