• @[email protected]
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      1 year ago

      This looks like a public office space. You really gonna go argue with the building admin?

      • @[email protected]
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        11 year ago

        You don’t need admin to plug your computer into the AV do you? I assumed it was OP’s computer.

        • @[email protected]
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          21 year ago

          Depends on how it’s set up i guess, but if it’s your own PC that’s kind of on you id imagine

      • JackbyDev
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        261 year ago

        “Hey boss, the display in the corner office automatically updated. Can we get IT to switch everything to Linux?”

        • @[email protected]
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          201 year ago

          “why would we do that? Our systems don’t work on that, our people aren’t trained on that, no, get back to work”

          I think that would be a pretty accurate reply to a casual request for an entire infrastructure change

          • @[email protected]
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            141 year ago

            “there is a bomb strapped to my chest, if you don’t install Linux on every computer in here I will explode taking you with me”

            I wouldn’t recommend this method but It might work out

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            31 year ago

            our systems

            Guaranteed all of your backend systems are running Linux. If not, holy hell why.

            our people aren’t trained on that

            Oh no, pointy-clicky on things on a desktop is so hard to train for people who have used an OS where you… um… pointy-clicky on things on a desktop. Whatever shall we do.

            Excuses. All I hear from people who want to keep obsolete, trash, laughable, insecure Windows.

            • @[email protected]
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              11 year ago

              Complain all you want, not a single manager out there is going to shut down any part of the active systems in place and potentially lose business to upgrade to Linux. At that point, just bring your own laptop instead of moaning about it.

              And I used to think the “just switch to linux” guys were a meme, bro you’re making me want to switch back to windows out of spite

      • @[email protected]
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        151 year ago

        What if Windows decided to update after you finished checking the equipment? I mean, they do use AI to determine the worst time for an update…

        • AnyOldName3
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          81 year ago

          They update on two Tuesdays a month, and have done that at least since XP. Even with the most reboot-keen settings, the update doesn’t happen until the time of day you’re least likely to be using the machine based on when you typically do it. It tells you when that time will be and gives you several hours of notice with a popup with the option to delay. Depending on the variant of Windows you’re using, you have settings to delay a forced reboot for up to a week (Home), a month (Pro) or forever (Enterprise). Obviously, that’s not enough to make sure no one ever gets updates forced on them when they don’t want them, and it would be nice if there was a way to distinguish users who know what they’re doing from users who don’t so people who do could be given more power to control if and when they install updates, but it is enough to ensure that checking the equipment before you use it is enough, potentially two weeks in advance.

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            21 year ago

            They update on two Tuesdays a month

            Correction: It updates every second Tuesday of the month. (Not including any potential “Preview” updates which might get released. Those are all optional updates, though.)

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      linux can have some pretty weird quirks though. (don’t get me wrong I’ve been dailydriving linux for several years and I’m not going to use windows unless I’m forced)

      one time I was about to do presentation, I has multiple files and windows in order to present the whole program we had developed, some powerpoint, demo, and the source code.

      then came my time to do the presentation and I plugged in the hdmi cable and my fucking account just logged out. dunno if the session crashed or something, but I had to quickly scramble everything back since all my apps were closed lol.

      I do have older quadro nvidia though

      • @[email protected]
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        21 year ago

        Important question: is mesa? If not, then fuck Nvidia. If yes, then fuck Nvidia regardless, but karlherbst and other nouveau devs would like to get crashlogs if there was crash.

        Was it reproduced later? What enviroment?

      • @[email protected]
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        21 year ago

        Having been in a similar situation, I now bash script things like that, so it’s ./present_dat_shit.sh and you’re up and ready, even if things bug out. If it’s a really important presentation, you can also add a live boot SSD backup if you’re serious about redundancy.

      • JackbyDev
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        81 year ago

        HDMI? Don’t you know HDCP is proprietary? Best to just log out. Stallman was right and all!

    • @[email protected]
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      81 year ago

      Sure, but are you really going to go find the building admin and argue with them to update all of their OS’ to something they probably don’t understand? Linux is primarily a power user platform, not a mainstream one.

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      91 year ago

      or itcould take several hours

      only if you have a shitty computer full of garbage. My windows updates only take 2 minutes or less. even feature updates only take about 4 minutes to reboot.

      Windows is only shitty if you don’t know how to use it. Just because you know what the buttons do doesn’t mean you know how to use it.

      • @[email protected]
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        11 year ago

        Bullshit, paid Windows shill. Even a brand new, high end PC on a fast internet with a fresh (non-OEM full of crap) install of Windows takes LITERALLY SEVERAL HOURS to fully update and often even minor updates will take at least an hour depending on what’s being updated.

        Don’t give me that shit. You know it’s a lie. Windows is trash.

      • @[email protected]
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        21 year ago

        or it could take several hours

        Would give you enough time to get your mouse drivers working on Linux then

        • The Menemen!
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          231 year ago

          And you can postpone it to whenever you want, also post thesis defence.

          • lemmyvore
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            101 year ago

            You have to cut Microsoft some slack on mandatory updates. They’re still traumatized from the XP era when they were the platform of choice for botnets and “Windows security” was a laughing stock.

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              121 year ago

              Tbh, if Linux had the same user base as windows had back then a large amount of people would postpone any update indefinitely and we’d be in the same shit.

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                111 year ago

                Yeah it’s a different game when your user base is tech savvy and self-selecting. When you have to deal with a billion non-technical people you have to be a lot more protective.

                But even so Linux seems miles ahead. It’s Microsoft who should be the most motivated to add things like AppArmor, Flatpak, immutable system, curated app repos, executable as a filesystem attribute etc. They’re doing none of that, they plateaued at UAC and bundling their own antivirus.

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                  They tried. UWP and the Windows Store did loads to boost security and make the source of apps verifiable, but people hated it and barely used it, so the holes they were supposed to patch stayed open. The store itself did have the problem that part of its raison d’être was to try and take a cut of the sales of all software for Windows, like Apple do for iOS, and UWP made certain things a pain or impossible (sometimes because they were inherently insecure), but UWP wasn’t tied to the store and did improve even though it’s barely used.

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                  executable as a filesystem attribute

                  This already exists. It’s labeled as “Traverse folder / execute file” in the UI.

                  NTFS permissions are also more powerful than the default Linux permission system. Instead of just being able to define permissions for a single user and single group, you can define them for an arbitrary number of users and groups.

                  I say “default Linux permission system” because you can actually use ACLs on Linux (getfacl and setfacl commands), they’re just not used by default. They used to be common in businesses and schools, but these days everyone seems to store their files “in the cloud” and the permissions are managed there instead.

                  curated app repos

                  This is what the Windows store is supposed to be. There’s also WinGet, but I’m not sure if it’s curated.

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            Absolutely, but unless you’re on a rolling release, it still won’t be that long. For example, my homelab ubuntu server didn’t get updated for over a month, but when I finally did run updates it finished after no more than a minute. Depends a bit on hardware and network speed though.

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              51 year ago

              It shouldn’t be an issue even on a rolling release. I mean it’s not like it installs every intermediary version of every package, it just jumps to the latest versions no? At least that’s how I imagine it works.

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                  11 year ago

                  Yes. The question comes down to how many of these you need. And do you have the resources for it?

    • @[email protected]
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      201 year ago

      It says “several” but I think it means “many”, important distinction to make there Microsoft.

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    My favorite windows update was when I was attending an onsite coding competition hosted my Microsoft. We were all in this large meeting hall that looked like a theater, and we spent first 10 minutes or so at the start of the competition just looking at Windows update, with the Microsoft rep apologizing to us, because his pc decided to do the “Forced update restart you cant postpone any more” literally two minutes into the presentation

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    I had windows do a large update in the middle of an exam once. Like the major version number changes or something, took probably like an hour and a half. I was quite lucky with the exact timing and the fact that I am usually able to finish exams quickly as I did end up having half an hour for the exam, but it did make the whole situation a bit more spicy than necessary.