I wonder how long it will be before they start giving discounts on tickets for interacting with the ads a certain number of times during the flight.
Never. The whole ad craze is there to milk profits on top of the things you already paid for.
What you are suggesting would actually be a more fair system.
Free with ads or paid with no ads.
Asshole corporations want paid and ads.
Good luck with that. I’m gonna turn that bitch off one way or another.
Preferably “accidentally” damaging the screen
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Most people will be too busy with their laptops, tablets, and phones to pay any attention to whatever ads they put on those screens.
So it’s okay then.
It certainly wouldn’t be OK for anyone that actually wants to use the in flight entertainment. I watch whatever TV shows and movies that I downloaded ad free and never turn on the seat back screens.
Man, we should break more stuff.
I already dislike the experience of being with other passengers on United. Nothing negative occurred on my part, just noticed how badly behaved other passengers were compared to every other airline I’ve flown.
My point is, I wouldn’t pick United to fly as my first choice.
Have you ever flown on a Frontier or Spirit flight?
No
You would think otherwise by your username.
fuck with the algorithm make it show ads for porno and then they’ll stop doing it
I assume they won’t allow porns in ads, but you can still get worse stuff than porn, like erectile dysfunction medication ads which causes people around your seat to look at you with sorry eyes.
Or just corrupt it till its weird ass surreal local ads. May take some work though.
Yeah, this is going to be hell for flight attendants having to deal with rightfully upset passengers.
Nothing that some Self Adhesive Vinyl can’t fix. They’ll have to deal with getting it off the screen afterwards too. Want to fine me for it? Then tell me where you got the data, because I didn’t consent to you having my data.
You probably did/do consent at some point, but nobody reads the fine print.
Calling into United:
Hey I see you charged me $400 for a replacement screen? Tell me, where did you buy the targeted ad data you used to display ads on that screen? Oh, an agency that I signed terms and conditions for at some point? Shit, alright then.
I mean, fuck United tho and they will not be getting and damn money from me.
The little guy always wins!
In david and goliath, david won. In the tortoise and the hare, the tortoise won. Rey Mysterio vs the 2006 Royal Rumble, Rey Mysterio won.
Hmmmm, you may be onto something!
That’s what I’m saying! And I’m sure we could make up dozens more stories too.
You bought the ticket right?
While in the EU or California, what ever works better…
More to consider when selecting an airline. Greedy fuckers, I hope their stock takes a nosedive thanks to this
It’ll probably take a small dip and then rise quite a bit once profits from implementing it start rolling in
And if it succesful, or at least passenger doesn’t boycott them over it, it is just a question of time until other airlines adds it as well
Part of the problem is that UA is such a massive airline, odds are any alternatives would involve quite a bit of sacrifice. Not many people would be willing or can afford to take an extra 2 layovers or 50%+ extra travel time or cost in order to get to where they want to go 🫤 That’s not to say I won’t try my best to avoid UA though, I was already sick of them after my last trip and now I find this news.
Seriously. It’s nearly a sure thing. I should buy on Monday and see how it goes. People are sleepwalking about adtech shit so they’ll continue to fly United. There’s already a dude in this thread telling people to chill and just don’t fly if they don’t like it. The ad revenue should be pretty juicy, too. They have a bored captive audience identified by full name and credit card number.
‘Capitalism breeds innovation’
The innovation
Cunts
Targeted, individualized, advertising should be illegal. This will gut a lot of the motivations for the privacy invasions and data harvesting. This is how advertising worked for thousands of years. I think it could continue to be just fine.
The amount of resources humanity is spending on targeted advertising is extremely depressing when you consider the opportunity cost. There are thousands of engineers and product managers that spend all day on this stuff instead of anything useful.
This is an interesting idea!
This just confirms my decision to never fly United again
Their seats did that for me. I’m 5’11", not a giant, and my knees were straight up jammed into the seat in front of me. Completely insane that they’re even legally allowed to sell those to people as seats. They might fit a child.
What did it for me was a long delay that got me landed at my destination after car rental was closed
Not so much the delay itself; that upset me, but I get that things happen
It was the reason for the delay: a simple maintenance thing with the plane had them taking the engine further and further apart while we watched from the terminal, ultimately deciding they weren’t getting this thing back up and running again anytime soon and having to get us another plane (which we had to wait for to fly to us)
Why couldn’t they figure it out? Because they didn’t have anyone who knew how to work on that plane model available
There are so many ways that pisses me off and makes me never want to trust them again
Also, every flight I had with them, including the return trip that I’d already booked from that trip, was miserable
Say what you will about Southwest but they know their damned planes inside and out and overall run their fleet efficiently and consistently. It’s like riding a bus that flies
The median age for an A&P licensed plane tech is 55. We’ll welcome you to the ranks anytime.
I have no idea what it is you’re trying to say here or how it relates to an airline running planes without having maintenance crews that can actually do the work on them… And that they worked on it anyway without apparently having the required training for it…
This comment directly speaks to your lack of understanding of how airline maintenance works. The point though is there are a shortage of maintenance personnel in the industry. People are retiring all the time and nobody is filling those billets once they leave. And airlines don’t just have a maintenance crew at every airport because there’s not enough, and it wouldn’t be cost effective. Be as angry as you want that airlines are running on such terrible margins that they can’t have a backup plane. But do understand that this is not the fault of the maintenance personnel.
Who’s blaming the maintenance personnel? I’m expecting the airlines to actually have their maintenance crews trained for the planes they fly.
I don’t think this is a particularly unrealistic expectation.
Nor do I think the expectation that crews without enough training on a plane to tear its engine apart and put it back together not be tasked with something that will have them tearing the engine apart.
I don’t need to understand how the maintenance works to expect it be done correctly for something that’s going to be moving my ass at hundreds of miles per hour, thousands of feet in the air.
I don’t blame the maintenance personnel for not giving themselves adequate training on the machines they’ll be servicing; that’s on the airlines to ensure they get that before telling them to work on those planes. I don’t blame the maintenance personnel for being ordered to then work on planes they don’t have training on.
And if “that’s just how the industry is”, that doesn’t make it any better.
Either way, flying with an airline that runs basically one model and can ensure every maintenance person knows that plane and every pilot knows that plane seems a good way to avoid the issue, so I’ll stick with what I’ve got for now, thanks.
Did it ever occur to you that they don’t just have maintenance personnel at every airport? Because what I’m saying is that no airline in the world has maintenance personnel at every airport.
Spirit, Frontier and Allegiant are Airbus only and would require an Airbus tech. Airbus planes are pretty decent on that the A19-A321 planes are pretty much exactly the same in parts and configuration except that some are longer and or wider than others. On the other side of things Southwest has only Boeing planes, mostly 737 and 747.
Pretty much every other airline has a mix of different planes (Boeing, Airbus, and Bombardier, Embraer). To do what you’re talking about every airline that flies more than one plane would have to have a technician for each of those plane types on the ground at every airport they fly to. That’s 5000 airports, with at least two technicians per airport (assuming they only have one flight in and out of there at a time which is ludicrous). The average number of flights going in and out of any one airport at a time. Daily there are about 45,000 flights per day per FAA statistics not including private flights.
At Delta’s hub in Atlanta, there are around 2100-2700 flights per day. Delta says they have about 6,400 AMT’s worldwide One singular airport out of 242 airports that Delta flies to. 24 hours a day for most airports. They would be required to keep at least 8 people per airport per average number of flights leaving or arriving per at the same time. Let’s say that at their hub they only have 5 planes on the ground at any given time ( a gross miscalculation of how many planes fly into their hub, but the math is cleaner). Delta has 4 different plane manufacturers’s planes in their fleet. That’s 4 mechanics on an 8 or 12 hour shift multiplied by 5 planes let’s say per average turn around time of 30 minutes. You’d need 20 techs At every single solitary airport Delta flies to. Per shift. Supplied by the airline. It’s a logistical nightmare and this number balloons when you realise just how.many departures and arrivals there are and at what intervals at pretty much any major airport. 9,640 AMT’s assuming 12 hour shifts. Just for domestic USA flights, not including planes that are down for maintenance outside regular maintenance schedule. When the fleet only emplyes 6,400 AMT’s world wide.
I cannot stress this enough, but you’re making a lot of assumptions here. And you don’t think it’s an unrealistic expectation specifically because you have no idea how any of this works.
I’ve reluctantly come to the same conclusion.
But now you can silently judge your neighbors for the ads they are seeing.
Or be jealous.
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For those of you contemplating ways of covering up the ads:
This is the same airline that beat the shit out of that doctor because the airline overbooked the flight. For your own safety, do not cross this airline.
I got screeched at for covering up a super bright blinking light on a red eye. Their FAs are next level stupid.
i think we should make them afraid to cross us
And they break guitars
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Holy shit what a ride that was.
It’s clear from a lot of stories like this (severe customer mistreatment) that United employees are miserable people who hate their jobs but this is nuts. I hope Dr. Dao got a huge settlement from United.
United is Four Seasons compared to American.
Is United Express actually United? I thought those tended to be a regional carrier using the name under license.
I’d expect the labour friction to be still worse; I was peripherally involved with such a firm 20 years ago and know they had terrible problems with staff retention, mostly because they wouldn’t pay enough to retain people after they got fed up with the free-standby-flight privileges.
Wow. Even Trump thought they went too far. Damn.
And the CEO who brushed that assault off ‘suffered’ a ‘delayed promotion’. Poor thing. For saying that stuff about anyone, let alone a customer, he should have been fired, no golden parachute.
I think the doctor’s patients should have sued the airline too, since no doubt having their doctor pounded to a pulp caused them to miss their appointments.
“The incident is widely characterized by critics as an example of mishandled customer service.”
Made me laugh, that’s putting it lightly…
They mishandled the shit out of him.
“The incident is widely characterized by critics as an example of
mishandledmanhandled customer service.”Just a typo.
That seems incredibly stupid. A doctor can afford to sue.
he wasn’t white, so they didn’t assume he was a doctor
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“If you don’t like it don’t fly”
Seriously just shut up.
Edit: LMAO just saw your other comment where you actually said this sincerely. You’re a parody of yourself.
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No, you can’t.
You can, there’s a button combo. It changes sometimes but if you spam a few things I can always black it out
But that’s not the point, it still sucks
You can if you’re a Party member
Have you ever turned a screen off on one of these planes? They turn back on. So you turn them off again. Sooner or later, they turn back on. And repeat.
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People like you constantly give corporations an inch because “it’s not a big deal” and here we are.
Hot take. Tell me more about me?
I saw you eat food dropped in a toilet.
Where can I book a train to Europe?
Depends on the plane and system it has. Last United flight I was on it stayed off the entire flight. I use my phone and generally don’t look at it anyway but it was nicer I suppose.
I don’t think you’re being beaten up for it. I certainly am not beating you up for it. But usually, yeah, the screen does come back on during the flight. I think they turn it back on automatically every time there’s an announcement. As somebody who finds screens like that very distracting and even migraine-inducing (the “busyness” of that sort of thing is a big trigger), it’s really frustrating.
I honestly couldn’t care less how many adverts they show me, they can have a constant stream of adverts the whole flight if it means that some shitty corporation is paying a portion of my travel coats.
People really need to grow up about stuff like this, if you don’t want adverts then pay for a premium service - I’m poor, I’ll accept the adverts.
That money isn’t subsidizing your flight cost, it’s increasing corporate profits.
Here’s the thing: companies have learned they can add ads to make additional money without passing any of that on to their customers.
If you think you’re going to get a better rate for having ads, you’re fooling yourself. They’ll always charge as much as they can get people to pay and that amount isn’t affected by ads most of the time.
This is thinking based on emotion not reality, most of the internet is free because of adverts so your belief that it’s not used to lower prices is clearly silly. Yes companies love profit but they often increase profits by lowering prices to attract more business, it’s a perfectly valid business model to use adverts to reduce the cost to the customer and increase customer volume.
Let’s have you build a train line to Europe eh?
Worse, you will be surrounded by them on all sides, as others don’t bother… :-(
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Screens don’t hit back
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Overbooking should be a mandatory minimum compensation of the greater of 1000x the ticket price or $20k. It’s a truly fucked up practice to disrespect people’s time like that.
Oh, we’ll just refund you the cost of the ticket. That was the whole cost, right?
The Chicago Department of Aviation did that. The same way if the police ends up killing someone, it was not the person calling the police.
it was not the person calling the police.
At this point anyone calling the police in the US is a necessary accomplice, and guilty of conspiracy to commit murder, aggravated battery, and probably several other crimes.
And may still get killed by police.
United was booting passengers to make room for employee transfers though, the situation was shit before dept of aviation even got the call.
Those employees could have stood. Frontier and Spirit give vouchers out when they intentionally overbook…which before the pandemic was everyday. If nobody takes the bait, they up the voucher value. For them it’s essentially monopoly money.
If United couldn’t get anybody to bite at the vouchers, then the employees should have stood the whole flight. Instead, they beat a man who was not fighting back physically. He only insisted that he get to his patient. They LITERALLY dragged him off the plane. By his ankle, as he tried to grab onto anything he could.
That’s not how FAA regs work. There is no such thing as standing room on a plane.
If United couldn’t get anybody to bite at the vouchers, then the employees should have stood the whole flight.
Yeah, that is not a solution. The FAA is salivating at the thought of this. Everyone must have a seat for takeoff and landing.
Sure, but telling someone to leave their plane for some oddball reason is “only bad” not outright crazy like what happened then.
“weird, yeah I got here and this screen just had all this sharpie over it, i dunno how it happened”
A very sticky sticker will do a better job
The thing I hate is that all these airline screens usually default to “on”, and people tend to leave defaults. I’m a tall person, and can usually see a large number of the screens in front of me. So if I’m on a night flight, even if I don’t intend to sleep, the only way to not be blinded by dozens of ads for a few hours is to bring a sleep mask.
I feel so bad for tall people on planes. It’s uncomfortable AF for all of us, but you guys have to become human origami just to sit. It’s insane that this shit is legal. I avoid flying as much as possible.
It’s uncomfortable AF for all of us
Idk, I’m pretty comfortable on planes, and I’m around 5’8 lol
I’m tall and fat it’s a double whammy. Granted one I’ve done to myself, luckily I generally only fly with my wife so I can get the isle seat to stretch
Also, ths taller you are, the more likely you are to be seriously injured in severe turbulence, malfunctions, minor crashes and major crashes.
They also automatically turn the screens back on repeatedly after you turn them off.
I use a baseball cap pulled down. Works well for me
