• Banana
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    11 months ago

    Lemmy absolutely.

    • no algorithm
    • no ads
    • actual real people in the comments
    • the ability for third parties to make apps
    • the fact that it’s not mainstream means most of the people on here are at least a little nerdy which I am here for.
    • feels a lot like what reddit used to be 15 years ago before the age of algorithms and bots everywhere.
    • @[email protected]
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      3011 months ago

      Lemmy 100% has an algorithm. It’s not a complicated one but any method for determining what content shows up is an algorithm.

      • Banana
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        211 months ago

        Fair enough, but I’d say the other commenters have articulated what I meant pretty well

      • @[email protected]
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        911 months ago

        An open source algorithm that the user base can see and understand how it works is different than a closed source algorithm that serves to benefit advertisers more than users

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          111 months ago

          That always comes with a double edged sword. An open source algorithm can be gamed more easily. IIRC, that’s why Reddit moved to closed source for theirs originally, spammers were specifically targeting it. I don’t think Lemmy’s big enough yet to attract that sort of detailed inspection, but it happened in the past. I’m not saying Lemmy should close source its algorithm, of course. Though maybe a pluggable algorithm would be a good idea, to make it so that people could use a diverse set of algorithms that would be more difficult to target as a whole?

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            111 months ago

            Yep, Trump’s campaign figured out how to game Reddit’s algorithm. Sticky a post and essentially tell anyone in the subreddit to upvote any stickied post on any visit which would quickly drive the stickied post to the top of all quickly.

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        1811 months ago

        No the commenter but I think it’s one of those language things where algorithm (at least in the context of social media) has come to mean a personalized feed, like two people have different all feeds versus an algorithm like sorting by hot or active posts that every has the same posts. To your point both are algorithms but it’s one of those thing where the word has taken on its own meaning

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          11 months ago

          Precisely. The colloquial use of algorithm indicates a form of targeted content delivery where your personal preferences are weaponized against you (aka TikTok)

          • Banana
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            311 months ago

            Yeah pretty much exactly what I was thinking about. I like being able to curate and have some legitimate control over what I’m seeing

  • Sparkles
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    311 months ago

    I like Lemmy more. I visit 4 subs on Reddit, not daily. I think it doesn’t have to be an either/or necessarily. I refuse to use their app. Rip baconreader.

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    1211 months ago

    Focusing on the people and communities, since takes like “Lemmy has no ads” or “reddit has more content” are so obvious that there is zero point in sharing them, I would say Lemmy is better. I think the quality of discourse is a lot higher and people are more likely to type longer, thought out and educated (or well intentioned) comments. If I were to put it really simply, I’d say Lemmy’s community is more centred around discussion, whereas reddit is centred around reaction.

    However, one issue with Lemmy is that fringe groups and views are overrepresented (particularly left-leaning ones), which can result in an echo-chamber effect in many discussions. I find pile-on attempts, or accusations of fascism, Nazism and right-wing trolling, are a lot more common here towards users who don’t immediately join in with a far left circlejerk or attempt to bring a little more nuance or critical thinking to a discussion. Dylan Marron, host of the podcast ‘Conversations With People Who Hate Me’, once said in an interview that social media pile-ons from people who are actually on your own side hurt a lot more than pile-ons from people who fundamentally disagree with you and I think there’s a lot of truth to that. It frustrates me that some Lemmy users shutdown and try to “other” people the moment they have a minor or semantic disagreement with them, instead of taking the time to hash it out or just politely agreeing to disagree. It’s kind of ironic that federation allows communities to isolate themselves, yet instead these people remain federated with everyone and then get really offended and outraged when they’re confronted with world views that even slightly differ from their own.

    But anyway, that type of person is still a minority and Lemmy is, for the most part, a significantly better environment than reddit for polite and intelligent discussion.

  • Pixel
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    511 months ago

    Lemmy is better, but the communities I care the most about and want to give the most to aren’t on lemmy, so I don’t really have the luxury of using it quite as much as I’d like. I do like it here, though

  • @[email protected]
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    911 months ago

    I would prefer Lemmy/Kbin but all the communities I actively followed on Reddit are still there

  • sgtlion [any]
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    1311 months ago

    My comrades on Lemmy, though sometimes insular, are some of the friendliest, most supportive people I’ve ever known online.

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    1611 months ago

    Reddit by far was a better experience; more content, better moderation, less negativity.

    I’m still here on Lemmy, though, in hope of it getting better (and it definitely scratches the same itch as Reddit without the corporate arrogance).

    That said, even though it annoys me, I do find myself getting exposed to a wider array of opinions on Lemmy that I just never saw on Reddit. And while I disagree with a lot of it it’s probably healthier for things to be that way. The tankies, though … so many tankies.

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    By now, Lemmy, hands down. I do sometimes end up on reddit from searching for stuff, and I check every now and then if I got any messages on my old accounts just in case someone wants to reach out, but overall - even without niche communities, Lemmy is just the better experience for me, personally.

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    We have far better discussions on Lemmy, but there are some really niche communities I follow on Reddit still because there aren’t enough interested folks here on Lemmy.

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    11 months ago

    Lemmy by fucking MILES.

    • no ads
    • no enshittificafion
    • federated ecosystem
    • OSS
    • self-hostable
    • no aggregate karma (so karma farming/selling is completely meaningless)
    • userbase genuinely feels a lot less dumb
    • loads of other things that I’m forgetting/too lazy to fully enumerate right now