Their grievances are a Gish Gallop.
Their entire worldview is an anxiety buffet; they’ve got something for everyone, all they need to bring is unmanaged fear
I think their entire world view is based on projection. “I’m thinking about doing xyz so THEY must also be doing xyz.” Every accusation is an admission. They imagine scenarios of drag queens molesting children so they think that drag queens must be molesting children. They imagine queer youth orgies at queer math camp so there must be queer youth orgies at queer math camp. They’re angry about things that are only happening inside their own heads.
If it wasn’t actually problematic it would be fascinating. It’s like watching a documentary about a cult.
I’ve always found it funny that the reason why science fiction and fantasy villains are almost always such lackluster characters is because science fiction and fantasy writers have to stick within the realm of plausibility whereas real life villains are not hampered by such trivialities.
Your sci-fi villain has to have a tragic backstory where he’s using the power of the universe killing machine to bring back his dead girlfriend or something.
In contrast, your real life villain is organizing a civil war militia to protect himself from enemies that he imagines existing somewhere even though he has no proof whatsoever, and all over the Western world people are proudly following these nut bags and even buying the merch.
In the real world the biggest villains actually believe that they are good, and they use that belief to justify that everything they do, even bad things, are done in the pursuit of good. They are convinced that they are doing good and that they are pure, good people, and they don’t ever feel bad.
Villains aren’t like some Joker, or Dr. Evil. They are culty and give themselves a license to control and harm other people.
It’s the same thing with the rich and powerful. Most rich and powerful people believe they got to that position because of their inherent worth, either their genius or their accomplishments or as being good stewards of their birthright if they were born wealthy.
These people have a reason to not hear what other people say when people tell them that what they are doing is amoral at best and immoral at worst. They take it as a personal attack on their self-esteem and their self worth rather than as an attempt to begin fixing the larger societal problems that their current position is capable of fixing.
Elon musk doesn’t have to be a nut job. He doesn’t have to destroy the conversational communal meeting place of a billion people to be someone of note. He’s doing it because he thinks he can do it better and that all of us idiot plebeians will just follow along once he sets the path.
The fact that this will have in the process destroyed the ability for people across the planet to coordinate against despotic government systems in the process is not important because that would mean that Elon did a bad thing, and that would make Elon feel bad so it’s just not even going to be considered.
Honestly, is risky, but that could make for a pretty interesting sci-fi or fantasy villian, if handled correctly - but it’d be a fine line between playing it deadly straight and melodrama overload.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they also started going off about the “round earth agenda” or something like that. These dudes are absolutely braindead.
Earth is obviously donut shaped duh
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Someone explain the math thing, because I have no clue what it could be.
Maybe the ‘math agenda’ is forcing kids to keep doing math after grade 6 or something like that :P
I mean, in school I had an agenda book and some days were almost entirely math, so… I guess?
I’ve looked up “bat-shit math conspiracies for those that sniff glue” online; here is what I found:
https://hotair.com/david-strom/2023/05/12/queer-math-camp-without-the-math-n550283
Thanks for sharing that barely coherent rant. I’m now both 3 minutes older and I probably lost some brain cells trying to process his nonsense. Who reads this and thinks “Yeah, this guy’s got a handle on reality and some good ideas.”? It’s rage bait for people who are already angry at society.
It doesn’t add up?
I’m morbidly curious about it, but not enough to actually want to listen to one of these chuds talk.
Math requires logical thinking.
They’re against that.
These people are too stupid to exist holy shit
And yet my aunt does, in fact, exist. Blows my mind every time I see her. Her beliefs are so stupid I’m fairly certain she lowers the collective intelligence of any room she’s in.
Give her a jar of cookies and tell her that one of them ate a child but you don’t know wich one, so she has to look at it forever to make shure it won’t happen again XD
Ah, yes. The math agenda. The deadliest of all the agendas. He who masters it, masters the universe.
3rd grade is too young to learn about poly(nomials)!!
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Do they not have jobs?
Would you want to employ someone that thinks trans = pedophilia?
Cause i think not and that should awnser your question.
Good point.
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Ram Ranch Resistance!
Can the take the weirdos that protest weekly by the highway in my hometown with them? Preferably and not come back
I haven’t dabbled in hard drugs, but this seems like an altered perspective.
Has he been sitting in front of the computer for a couple of years sucking on a pipe and letting flame bait reprogram his mind?
I’ve done a shitload more than dabble, and I assure you, it didn’t end me up here. This is just people who desperately lack critical thinking skills.
That’s what I did and I’m not a right wing nut!
But I will end you if you say an unkind word about Noam Chomsky!!
The only Noam Chomsky I care about it is about two and a half feet tall and has a pointy hat and comes alive at night and does… things to the local wildlife. I’ve said too much.
And this is what happens when you sit in front of a computer for a couple years, hitting the pipe but ignoring the right-/left-wing flame bait. You get normal drug stuff like, like erudite garden gnomes doing unspeakable things to woodland creatures. Pervy Garden Gnome 2024!
Chomsky is inconsistent about whether debate or deplatforming is the correct way to deal with people who take a position against universal human rights
Runs away
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I think they just want friends on their road trip
“Hey guys, what’s the theme this year??”
These people are literally a herd of cats in a room with a laser pointer pointed at a disco globe.
My mother is a conspiracy theory sucker. Being isolated during the pandemic with her idiot boyfriend literally spun her around from being a compassionate intelligent woman who ran her own successful business for over a decade to literally being afraid of everything and everyone.
The world would be a better place without right wingers
You should all take part and swing pride flags lol
“Save the children is basically a generic statement obviously,” lead convoy organizer Gordon Berry told PressProgress. “There’s a multitude of things you could be saving them from.”
Berry says the convoy wants to save children from the “human trafficking industry,” but also from “mandating the shots to kids and kids getting sick and frigging education and all the stuff they’re teaching them in schools and the trans agenda and the math agenda, gender dysphoria – all of these things.”
Oh, so it’s mostly about being an anti-LGTBQ and education hate parade, with some flat earth and anti vax thrown in.
“Trudeau’s paying LGBTQ a million dollars”
Does he think LGTBQ is like a company or secret society or something?!
“You got to save them from the whole system.”
I can understand where he’s coming from here, the system clearly failed him.
Sure, I understand that the system failed him, or at least failed someone close to him. But what he’s doing is just generally raging against the leaders and using random excuses to justify causing chaos.
There’s no focus, no message. No way for anybody to respond in any way other than flat out rejection. How can you respond to something like this if when you try, it’s like “okay, I understand this this this, and this. But this one and these three others are unacceptable to us. But then there’s another sixteen that we can talk about. Please give us your side of the story and we can continue from there.” How do you form a conversation with that?
Not to mention that he’s trying to gather people from the widest spectrum he can, each with a different grievance. How do you talk when you have a dozen “I won’t budge on this one thing” when each one thing is something different? Just like the previous convoy, it’s just plain civil disobedience for the sake of letting out steam, no actual attempt at making change.
Yeah I agree with you.
There’s no actual real concern, it’s just a bunch of glued together conspiracies and dog whistles.
The whole thing is gross.
The math agenda? What are the conservatives worrying about this week?
Yeah that stood out to me too, I’ve heard of these other dumb things.
I had a very strange conversation a couple of years ago. It seems that some people think that math is used only as a tool to control the population or something.
We were talking about something that most people would consider pretty innocuous, catch and release fishing. I mentioned that I had recently read an article that claimed that mortality among released fish was still high enough that approximately every second released fish should be counted against your limit because of the percentage of released fish that die of catch-related causes.
That lit the other guy’s hair on fire. “That’s math! You can’t seriously think that math is real? It’s all made up!” (Or words to that effect. Mouth frothing removed to protect the innocent.)
Over the course of the rest of the conversation, I “learned” that math was invented as a tool of oppression. Science uses math to create fake knowledge. Our senses are the only true sources of knowledge.
If they actually followed through with that you’d kind of have to admire it. What else would they have to do away with? All abstract concepts obviously, along with everything they’d been told, read, or imagined. How about theory of mind? Object permanence? Would they be newly surprised by the sunrise every day?
It devolves pretty quickly into an infantile solipsism. The world exists only for me, and only when I’m looking.
How to control a population 101:
Make them only trust their emotions.
They are anti-everything they don’t understand. Unfortunately that’s most things.
Math has a known liberal bias.
I expect they’d be upset about arabic numerals if they knew that’s what they’re called.
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These are people that literally never grew up.
It’s the 8 year old mentality of ‘math is hard and confusing, I would rather spend the day living in my imaginary world’
What we are seeing now is the temper tantrum that happens when someone challenges them to leave their comfort zone.
A temper tantrum that goes on for years. At least with children it’s usually over in minutes.
