Trump Demands Biden Remove Ad of Him Calling Dead Soldiers ‘Suckers’ and ‘Losers’ - The former president said only a “psycho” or a “very stupid person” would’ve made such statements.

  • @[email protected]
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    1611 months ago

    There’s no way this could blow up in his face. I mean, drawing attention to an ad that quotes something he directly said… No possible way this would have the opposite effect. Genius level thinking going on here.

  • ChihuahuaOfDoom
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    14811 months ago

    He got specific when attacking John McCain, “I like people who weren’t captured.”

    • Neato
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      10411 months ago

      Biden’s team should shoot back with that: “I like people who weren’t convicted.”

    • @[email protected]
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      1311 months ago

      If Hillarys people wouldn’t have pushed trump so hard, it would have been McCain vs Hillary, McCain would have easily won…

      It’s insane how much better shit would be today if Hillary wouldn’t have gambled or cared about literally anything more than being the first woman president.

        • @[email protected]
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          1611 months ago

          You’re right.

          I was thinking he did but I guess it was Jeb! And Ted Cruz as the Republican establishment picks in 2016.

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            2011 months ago

            And Hillary Clinton didn’t push Trump. Prior to Russia making him much more likely to win via a concerted and effective propaganda effort, she was probably happy to be facing him, but that was long over by the time he became the nominee.

              • @[email protected]
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                11 months ago

                Bold move, citing an article that relies solely on a WikiLeaks email. One dating to April 23rd, 2015, long before it was clear that Trump would be the nominee. Or that he would be assisted by Russia. As I said. In my previous comment. Which you’re responding to.

                But y’know, it lets you keep hating Clinton. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

                Edit: Oh, and I just spotted that it’s by Ben Norton, Russia’s favorite supposedly-left-wing-but-weirdly-pro-Trump-and-pro-Putin “journalist!” You know, the guy who was with this garbage hole until 2022!

                • OBJECTION!
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                  long before it was clear that Trump would be the nominee. Or that he would be assisted by Russia.

                  How are either of those things relevant to the fact that Clinton elevated Trump? It’s possible to elevate someone and for them to still lose, it’s also possible for two different people to elevate someone, so neither of those things contradict the claim at all.

                • @[email protected]
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                  711 months ago

                  Bold move, citing an article that relies solely on a WikiLeaks email

                  Wikileaks didn’t write the emails, they only leaked them. For all their fury about the leak, the Hillary team never once denied that they had written those emails.

                  before it was clear that Trump would be the nominee

                  Yeah, when you want to make someone the nominee, you tend to make the related plans before they succeed. At least that’s the direction I’M used to time and causality moving in.

                  Or did you think anyone was claiming that the Hillary team wanted Trump to win the GENERAL election? 🤦

      • @[email protected]
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        911 months ago

        Or if the popular vote mattered. She did beat trump by 2.1%… just not in the right states/areas to get the win.

      • @[email protected]
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        311 months ago

        Even better, how much better would things be if the republikkklowns weren’t racist, hateful clowns?

  • @[email protected]
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    9111 months ago

    Always keep in mind that Trump is a person with a very weak mind. It might actually be the case that he has forgotten about many of the misdeeds he has done, and considers himself an innocent and successful man just because he does not remember about reality.

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      1911 months ago

      Not just a weak mind. The weakest mind. I’ve talked to everyone, and they all tell me, they say: I’ve never seen a mind so weak. You won’t find a weaker mind. (etc for 20 minutes)

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      I think you’re right but I think it goes further in that he genuinely doesn’t grasp the concept of reality. I think for him reality is whatever he wants it to be in the moment, and anyone suggesting it is anything other than that is lying, unfair, disloyal, and so on. So even if he does remember it, it doesn’t matter.

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      11 months ago

      It’s more insidious than that. Malignant narcissists like Trump believe their gaslighting and lies define reality for everyone.

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    Trump rejected the idea of the visit because he feared his hair would become disheveled in the rain, and because he did not believe it important to honor American war dead, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the discussion that day. In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed.

    source, The Atlantic, September 3rd 2020

    • @[email protected]
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      In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.”

      Arlington was property seized from Robert E. Lee and chartered to house dead Union soldiers after the civil war.

      So it sounds like it was filled with winners, at least for a little while.

    • @[email protected]
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      2011 months ago

      This is pretty much how narcissists think in a nutshell. It’s essentially a mental disability that makes them incapable of understanding why they would care about people, especially people who can’t adore or praise them (i.e. dead people). Emotional one-way street.

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      1811 months ago

      When will Jim Jones’ supporters wake up? Cults do extensive mental rewiring to people’s brains. Their minds literally cannot conceive of their leader doing anything evil anymore.

      No, the question isn’t when his supporters will wake up, it’s when will the people who still think he’s “bad, but the lesser of two evils” wake up?

      • Nougat
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        811 months ago

        To be fair, it seems that many of Jim Jones’ supporters woke up when they were at the end of a gun being commanded to commit suicide.

        It took that.

          • Nougat
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            411 months ago

            The other side of that was that many of them did not, and were holding the guns and doing the commanding.

  • ElephantInTheRoom
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    2911 months ago

    Yeah and I wish we could remove Trump from this world. Not happening either. Fuck humanity, we all deserve what we’ll get.

      • Art35ian
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        111 months ago

        Endlessly eat, shit, fuck, fight, and consume for 5,000 years without any regard for anything but ourselves.

          • Art35ian
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            311 months ago

            I was referring to the Bronze Age, urbanisation, and civilisation, genius.

        • @[email protected]
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          311 months ago

          Lol You just describe all basic life. I would agree f Everyone that are all for being no better than a locust. Humans have the ability to do better. That fact you are aware enough to be upset over this idea is proof. Everyone should Promote the idea of better balance than a cartoon villain. Lead by example.

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      1011 months ago

      I wouldn’t say all, but yeah most people probably. It’s so unbelievable that people like Trump are so popular, and that people are voting and acting against their own interests (because they are stupid?).

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        111 months ago

        They absolutely are voting against their interest but these are the people who only pay attention to politics 2 months every four years. There are people who will vote for Trump because of the stimulus payments that he delayed just so he can have his signature on it. Even though Biden got families even more assistance. When people are struggling they blame the president.

        I’m afraid that gen z may be more red then we expect simply because they can’t afford to live on their own. Biden needs to put stronger restrictions on utility companies and landlords but there are even Democrats who won’t allow that.

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        11 months ago

        Think about someone watching all 3 Back to the Futures and coming away from them thinking Biff Tannen was the real hero in each story.

        Trump voters.

  • katy ✨
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    511 months ago

    “drop out and stop being a candidate and i will” - president biden

  • @[email protected]
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    2211 months ago

    Trump would fill his pants if he was ever in any kind of war zone. But you know that’ll never happen because he’s a coward.

      • @[email protected]
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        411 months ago

        Good point. I was referring to leaders that visit warzones to support allies and so on. He would never do that.

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        Okay, he was and is a coward who browned a pair of pants the second anyone brought up the mere possibility he might be drafted.

        And to be clear the people who refused to go, who burned their draft cards at protests, or even just stayed home until the police showed up aren’t in this picture. Trump proactively got a doctor to lie so he wouldn’t have to worry about it.

  • @[email protected]
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    11711 months ago

    What did he say about John McCain? “I like people who weren’t captured.”

    Trump has never given a shit about the military or veterans. I’m surprised at how many veterans love him.

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      The military doesn’t attract the brightest minds.

      Reminds me of a joke that did the rounds shortly after Finland joined Nato.

      Finnish general: “You know, it’s difficult, we have mandatory military service, but around 15% are unfit for service”

      Other Nato generals: “That 15% is where we have to recruit from”

      • @[email protected]
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        111 months ago

        Buddy, you do calculus under fire and report back to me how well you do. By the way, if you take too long you die. If you get the wrong answer, your friend dies.

      • @[email protected]
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        I don’t know I think that’s kind of a shitty thing to generalize about. Not sure where your located, but atleast here in the US there are plenty of folks who join the military at a young age to get themselves out of bad situations and try to correct the course of their life. Obviously there are a lot of people who join because of some dangerous nationalistic or racist ideals, but that structure and purpose can help some folks.

        • @[email protected]
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          I went in because it’s how poor kids go to college, here.

          My buddy went in from Montgomery AL, as his economic alternatives were terrible, and he did report a high numbers of ex-felons attempting self-reform in his Marines unit; some with success, others missing the mark. He leveraged his time to great success by the time I met him, all his boyhood chums dead or jailed by 25.

          I’ve known several members of my nation’s armed forces who enlisted as a career and were capable of many other options, but they chose this one. We do choose it like Fireman, even though here it’s thankless.

          It seems entirely environment-dependent, though. I see one guy on here who claims to be ex-military but talks as if out of an armchair, and definitely has ‘outlying’ beliefs that would draw criticism from serving members.

          I just can’t predict it.

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          211 months ago

          Yep that’s right. I have friends who could’ve done many things with their lives but they value our armed forces and joined up instead. It’s something I hold in high regard. It’s not a washout only ensemble.

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      1011 months ago

      It’s cognitive dissonance.

      My family, in or out, are 7 shades of angry at those comments. But we aren’t in range to vote for him or an opponent.

      Our local conservative elitists may one day say the same thing, but as lifelong politicians from college they’re smarter than that. If they did, I know too many of my family (who know better) would do mental backflips to somehow make it okay to still vote for them.

      It’ll sound like “yeah, well Milhouse said we’re losers but Hairguy wore a tan jacket that one day so I’m still going with Milhouse” and I can only not invite them to Thanksgiving so hard.

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        111 months ago

        Show them Lindsay Graham saying D-Day was a failure. Next we need to set one of those idiots up to say something bad about a medal of honor winner. Shouldn’t be too hard. “Hey would you stand in front of an angry mob like Randy Shugart or Gary Gordon?”

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      2011 months ago

      My family has a few people who just got out of the military.

      I explicitly pointed out that Trump called them, and their grandfather (whom they claim to love very much) suckers.

      Their response was, more or less, “Yeah but Trump is better because he has balls!”.

      The majority of people in the military are, in fact, suckers.

      • @[email protected]
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        711 months ago

        The military actually rejected Trump pretty hard. Enough conservatives in the military refused to vote for him in 2020 that it went blue for the first time since at least the Dixie Flip in the sixties. They aren’t the group you should be worried about.

      • @[email protected]
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        1111 months ago

        From experience, you’re not wrong. Let’s be honest, being a service member doesn’t separate them from their faults as humans. You take an undereducated kid from Mississippi and make him a Soldier, they’re still that undereducated kid with no critical reasoning skills.

        • @[email protected]
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          811 months ago

          Please take my critical thinking away, I don’t like it very much anymore. Seem like it’s the only thing keeping me from happiness lately.