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What the fuck are you smoking?
Something with a high amount of copium (fuck, I need this stuff too)
Beating the far right? Dude they are second strongest here in Germany, had massive gains and I live in fear I will see the second German fascism soon.
What the guck do you mean beating them?
Same for the Netherlands, the only reason the far right didn’t win here is because they had a lower voting percentage compared to the left
!RemindMe 5 years
The two far-right parties in Portugal, the Iniciativa Liberal (American-style ultra-neoliberals) and the Chega (Fascists) were the only parties who grew their vote and Parliamentary representation, which together now adds to almost 20%
Further, if you add them to the AD cohalition (containing the center-right party and the traditionalist conservative one) who came second just a short way from the first placed, and even if you consider the winner a leftwing party (whilst they’re supposedly center-left, their politics are “slightly socially-aware neoliberal”, so them being left-of-center is open to dispute), AD plus the two far right parties still adds to a victory of the Right when last time around it was the Left that was ahead.
There is no way in Hell any of this shit can be seen as a victory from the point of view of the Leftwing unless “we didn’t got trashed as much as we could” is a “victory”.
I’m from Germany and the Nazis were 2nd strongest Power.
And they were even 1st strongest Power in the entire old GDR.
Would not call that “beating” yet. And maybe I’m not up-to-date about the Netherlands, but my latest info there was that the Far Right also won many votes again.
So still really shit times. When looking on the German Nazis they grow and grow.
In the Netherlands most far right seats were shuffled between FVD (4 to 0) and PVV (1 to 6/7). Can’t explain their final seat, but I guess it might have to do with there being more this time around? We did have a couple progressive parties gain a little (D66 +1, Volt +2), but over all right/left/far right are said to have roughly retained their size compared to last elections.
This makes PVV the second biggest list in NL, with GL/PvdA (Green/socialist left alliance) being first at 8 seats. Thing is, while GL/PvdA is collaborating in our national politics as basically one party, they’re expected to join the European factions they’re already a part of, separating them into 2× 4 seats. They will (and have been) collaborate and align their votes in Parliament and believe such collaboration might be the way forward on a European level as well.
Because our media loves for there to be a heated fight, this is being interpreted as a victory for both PVV and GL/PvdA depending on who you ask
Let’s not forget that CDU won by a very small difference to AFD. And it’s not exactly like CDU is super progressive man. We are in a timeline where we are celebrating that CDU won.
Double is a small difference?
Ok I might have overestimated the German result [cries in Saxony]. Isn’t it 23,7 vs 15,9? That’s not double though, more like 50%.
CDU/CSU had 30% of votes vs 15.9% for AfD
Ah, I forgot to account for CSU
And spread. We have so many in our part of Canada. It’s insane.
Why is Germany included in this? The fucking brown shit nazis of the AfD had huge gains this election and became second strongest party in the country.
I feel like going around and smacking everyone who was too lazy or to uninterested to drag their ass to a voting booth and stand up against this ongoing shift to the right.
Seriously, Germany makes it super easy to vote. You are automatically registered, get an invitation in the mail, get mail ballots with 2 clicks on your cities website and there is literally a polling station for everyone in walking distance and no wait time. THERE IS NO EXCUSE!!
Also, please note that the German AfD is so batshit extreme, that even the other european Nazis don’t want anything to do with them and kicked them out of their EU coalition.
They are under constant observation by the German Verfassungsschutz because they are dancing on the line that would make them an anti-democratic extremists group that would be banned by law.
Please stop calling them Nazis. That would mean they are social, which they are not. They are just capitalist/plutocratic fascists.
“national socialism” had nothing to do with socialism or being social
It still drags “social” through the dirt
You mean the free housing they provided to the Jews, or what? Even free showers they had there. And free mass graves.
The Nazis were NEVER social.
They are as social as the “Democratic People’s Republic of Korea” (North Korea) is Democratic. About 0.00%.
Anybody can call themselves anything, that doesn’t make them that.You want to brush up on your history, if you go around and tell people what the Nazis aren’t and weren’t.
Huge gains sure, but far from power still.
Wtf are you talking about the fascists had a huge win this election and the liberals aren’t even doing any handwringing they just pretend everythings fine and we can just vote them out in the next cycle.
Yeah I think that OP need to look a little more t European politics, as half if not most of these countries have been sliding right like there is no tomorrow, literally.
Let OP cope, reality is to harsh.
They likely also think the US beat the far right because trump lost in 2020. WE DID IT! FASCISM IS OVER.
Lots of criticism for Macron calling snap elections, but I actually think that’s the right move. He needs to break through the cynicism and get people to recognize the threat they really face. Waiting won’t help; it just breeds complacency.
Is this an accurate assessment of macron’s intent or did he make a mistake and this is the cope? Because the US coped this way in 2016, and it only emboldened the masked nazi militias currently demonstrating and plotting in clear view.
did he make a mistake and this is the cope
No this is a ‘whole loaf’ move, when in US politics its always ‘half a loaf or less’.
It will either succeed or it will fail. If successful, he can turn the tide on the right and get things moving in the other direction.
If it fails, well, good luck Europe.
Dude please explain the whole loaf thing we need to know 🍞
No this is a ‘whole loaf’ move, when in US politics its always ‘half a loaf or less’.
Can you explain what you mean by this?
I mean the difference between “Half measures” and “Full measures”. I think a good example of this in metaphor are the two episodes of breaking bad:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half_Measures
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_Measure_(Breaking_Bad)
Its metaphor, but since we’re talking strategy here, I’m going to use it. The basic idea is that if you don’t fully commit to a strategy, your half-commitment becomes the source of why it fails to work.
Its the same in business or any other kind-of sport or competitive enterprise. Macron isn’t acting in half measures. He’s demanding either the full thing, or nothing at all, which I think is the right strategy. A half success gives Macron nothing.
It’s been 7 years that Macron and his minions did all they could to divide french society in order to stay in power. They criminalized the mostly peaceful ecological and social protests, they (over)used all the least democratic powers (49.3 and others) they had to push through socially unjust reforms, they have cynically and with the sole aim of winning votes, lumped together the parties of the left and the far right, and have deliberately blurred the political field. They refused to stand in the way of the far right in the last parliamentary elections, allowing a few hundred of them to become MPs and giving them prestigious positions in the parliament, simply out of political expediency. They have constantly pushed far-right themes such as security and immigration into the public debate, again simply to try and divide people and win votes. For these european elections, they snubbed all other parties other than the extreme right and even gave them more credibility (and publicity) by sending the Prime Minister to debate with their representative (and with no one from any other party). Macron, who said a few years ago that he would do everything to ensure that people no longer had any reason to vote for the far right, has been playing with fire in an attempt to divide the country and keep power. He is guilty of the current situation, and the dissolution of the assembly is not a clever or courageous move, but rather a cynical act of impotence by a lonely man who now wants to play the “it’s me or chaos” game. To think that if the far right wins these next elections and a PM from their ranks is appointed, this would be an opportunity to prove how incompetent they are and destroy them, is to becompletelyy delusional. It’s forgetting that this would put France in a catastrophic situation for years to come, with social and ecological ruin, and above all that its main effect would be to open the Overton window even wider, making it even more likely that the far right would soon gain to the real power with no real counterweight, the Presidency.
Netherlands has the most right wing government in decades
I hadn’t been paying attention to the election results. My first reaction was a happy one at the meme. But then I read some comments and they are disputing it.
So what’s the situation? How fascist is Europe now?
Not 100%sure on this but i believe the far right made massive gains in Greece too
I wish i was this optimistic. Half these countries are right af lol
It kinda feels like they did this to themselves in France at least. If they weren’t so help bent on raising the
requirementretirement age, people might’ve not flipped so hard. And of course it won’t get fixed and they’ll have other issues, but people don’t often think that far ahead…Retirement*
Yes, thanks! My thumbs aren’t as agile as they one were.
With AUR and SOS there, Romania also didn’t.
Thankfully it’s not unrecoverable. They got a few more seats, but are still a relatively fringe party.
I’m heavily considering signing up as a member of Volt Romania. They weren’t big enough to be on the ballot this year, but a lot can happen in 5 years.
We really need to get our shit together and pull a Revolution again… Our political system is in need of a good slappin’…
Yeah, this was “funny” to see. Between those and the hilarious PSD/PNL alliance, these election results are a mess.
