since when did foxes kill sheep
I took it to be a coyote. They go after sheep sometimes. Also, they are associated with being trickster figures in mythology.
They generally don’t, but all things are possible in memeland!
Don’t trust vegetarians
Is that supposed to be a fox or a wolf?
You’d have ti ask the AI
Elections are more like:
The wolf is in a shepherd dog’s skin, pointing at the black and rainbow sheeps while saying “they’re wolves in sheep skin, let me eat them!”.
“That wolf is so full of shit. Who’s his opponent?”
“Donald Trump.”
“He has my vote.”
BoTh fUcKiNg SiDeS!!!11
Or “Once I am elected, meat is back on the menu boys!”
The half the sheep cheer and tell him to eat those other annoying sheep over there.
To be more realistic the wolfox would be saying he is going to eat all the sheep, and the sheep will be talking amongst themselves saying he’ll settle down once he gets into power and what he is saying is just to anger the wokes
He’d be saying sheep who get eaten are suckers and losers…
Honestly I think you’re giving the sheep’s human counterparts too much credit. They don’t acknowledge that they are potential prey, even while actively being victimized.
Tankies guna tank
This word has lost all meaning at this point.
Lemmy.world has become an anticommunist echo chamber, reasonable people don’t stay there and anti-leftists feel more welcome there.
That’s definitely what I’ve observed. The constant whining gets pretty grating, wish they would finally just form their own instances and defederate from whoever the hell they want. Instead they sit around in the largest most entry-level instance and badmouth and whine at the mods to cut off any instance where the majority view is to the left of and critical of the status quo.
Yep. They defederated from Hexbear before ever being federated, haha.
I believe after they defed from Lemmy.ml, dbzer0 will be next, and maybe even Lemm.ee.
Ultimately, if you pretty much only punch left, you end up inviting fascists like Zionists to sit with you, leaving the most insuferable instance imaginable.
“once put into power, i will only be consuming the sheep deemed by democratic voting, to be the least productive, happy, and likeable members of the flock.”
wait is this just eugenics?
wake up sheeple!!!
“If elected, I will stop all those other sheep from crossing the border and stealing your food!”
This is so 2015…now it would be “Once elected, I will murder every single one of you” and they would reply with joy in unisson: “Hurrah, free lamb chops for everyone, you’re our saviour!!!”
lemmy.ml and anti-democratic meme? surprised not
Russia (allegedly) has elections too however
Oh yes, Russia, the renowned standard of democracy /s
I mean give the man (or not) credit, some of the most powerful and influential countries in the world is where democracy suffers terribly either at the hand of despotism or at the hand of capitalism (likely both).
the most powerful and influential countries
these countries tend to dominate over other countries as they dominate over their own citizens. this should never be a goal. countries should be democratic between themselves as their citizens should be.
Yea but still it remains that democracy as it exists now is a major failure in some of the most influential countries, making democracy a failure for more than what %80 of the world (USA, Russia, India, China, and many more middle sized countries too)?
I dont think the meme is anti democratic per se, it is just anti democratic against a democracy of this type where usually people with a mentally ill levels of drive for power are at the top. It is making more fun of the fox than the sheep.
The CPC has like a 95 percent approval rating according to Harvard polling, what are you talking about?
I guess you mean CCP but who am I to disrespect great CCP
Well, it might be so. But I am just suspicious about tankies showing flaws of democracy since they use it to “show” the supposed supremacy of “communist”, authoritarian states as China.
Authoritarian is just a buzzword armchair generals throw around. All states rely on authority, including anarchist attempts like in Catalonia and Ukraine.
You are conflating communism with authoritarianism as is commonly done on purpose or by accident to invalidate it. Anarchists are also often Communists and they oppose democracy for its oppressive properties as compared to consensus building and free association, that’s a critique of democracy from an even more libertarian perspective.
Socialists and Communists also believe in the democratization of the economy, so that a capitalist owner class doesn’t get to dictate how our labor and resources are allocated.
If you truly believe in freedom, you might be interested in anarcho-communism or socialism. Liberal democracy isn’t as free as you think.
‘elections’ with reaaaaaaally big quotes
I read it as an oblique reference to this:
It may not have BEEN that, but I definitely saw it as a swipe against dishonest elected officials, not against democracy
why is this anti democratic again?
it creates biased impression that democracy is generally like this. it’s like showing that ussr sucked, so any leftist ideology must sucks too
Okay but the USSR didn’t suck, it was a good attempt at workers democracy with massive problems, but smaller problems than bourgeois democracy
Yes, it also helped to liberate woman and gave them more opportunities, decreased illiteracy and MASSIVE russian retardancy, but overall it sucked at many levels and from the very start:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Terror – look at the passage on tortures. This alone made me to despise USSR.
The red terror was much smaller than the white terror, and the torture is nothing that capitalist countries don’t do on the regular. I for one would like to decrease the amount of torture in the world.
Yeah, I’ve heard about the white terror. This does not justify people who supposedly wanted a better world. I am quite sure that now amount of torture in western countries is negligible when compared with China and North Korea, and mostly by intrinsic flaws of e.g. police than political causes. And yes, I’ve heard about exceptions as Guantanamo or Pinoshit. Actually Pinoshit and Franco should not be counted as nominal western mindset, since they are authoritarian fascist piece of shits. I despise all authoritarian despots equally, no matter fascist Franco or “communist” Stalin.
I am quite sure that now amount of torture in western countries is negligible when compared with China and North Korea
This sounds like western chauvinism. Hoe can you be sure? The US has soo many blacksites, hell even local PDs have them.
Guantanamo or Pinoshit. Actually Pinoshit and Franco should not be counted as nominal western mindset, since they are authoritarian fascist piece of shits.
Pinochet was straight up supported by the west until it was too politically inconvenient, but by that time he’d already done his job of eradicating the left. Franco wouldn’t have won if it wasn’t for Britain, France, etc, enforcing “no arms and troops shipments” for the USSR but not for Italy and Germany. And they also weren’t willing to accept Spanish republican gold.
I despise all authoritarian despots equally, no matter fascist Franco or “communist” Stalin.
Hmm. One of these people was a dictator. The other was democratically elected and lead the industrialization of a society that allowed it to defeat the industrial superpower that was Germany and end the holocaust.
That’s not how I read it… it’s not really democracy if the guy being voted for is lying to the voters without repercussion (thus obstructing the voters’ right to make an informed decision) so they can get into office and do things they know the voters wouldn’t have voted for. That’s anti-democratic in itself. This meme isn’t saying democracy bad, it’s saying that what we have now isn’t a democracy.
What in the world are you on about? This is about how politicians will pay lip service to the public but will act in their own interestd, usually based on their donors.
I get that you’re on Lemmy.world, where everyone outside of your anticommunist bubble everyone is a secret scary tankie, but this is even worse of a take than nornal.
Well, maybe someone outside your tankie bubble may have an other interpretation.
The “tankie bubble” is Lemmy. Lemmy.ml doesn’t defederate from larger instances, I see almost everything.
The “tankie bubble” is Lemmy.
Not so. The tankiest instances are lemmygrad and hexbear, while I think sh.itjust.works is neocon or lib at best, not to mention nazi “exploding heads” so we have a whole spectrum. I think Lemmy.ml had tolerable tankiness, but since lemmygrad and hexbear were rightly defederated from most instances, the tankies and wumaos are poisoning Lemmy.ml and much of fediverse with genocide denialism, authoritarian propaganda, etc.
Both Hexbear and Lemmygrad are largely self-sufficient, some people likely have alts but the idea that they are “poisoning” Lemmy.ml is silly. Marxists have always been here.
Yes, Marxists have been on Lemmy.ml and this is a good thing. But there is difference between Marxists and supporters of authoritarian regimes like China, Russia or North Korea, who are denialists of genocides like Bucha, Katyn, Tiananmen, etc. and who are cheap wumao/govnoyed propagandists.
Suggesting people read Marx gets you called a Tankie. I have even seen Anarchists get called Tankie. The term is meaningless at this point, and people attach a bunch of scary baggage to it as a way to pretend everything left of Liberalism is tankie.
I’ll only be a carnivore on day 1
Council of sheepdogs to decide if foxes are criminally liable for murder or if we should use pinky swears and the honor system.
but they don’t have pinkies
Canines have five digits on their front paws, just like we do. Their “dew claw” is equivalent to our thumb, so the outside digit is still a pinky digit.
Here’s how trust works:
Once elected, I will be vegetarian.I am vegetarian.
