I’m not saying the worst, otherwise I would need to include the star wars sequels or transformers movies… Just some really dumb movie that somehow got praised.
For me has to be Ready Player One. That movie message is so “uhuh” obvious that is stupid, the whole nerd that saves the world in a thing that otherwise would be useless to know in real life… The so over the top evil gaming corporation. The whole 80s and 90s movies and games references get old after half an hour… And it’s so pandering towards the geeks and nerds, they really want the viewer feeling really cool for knowing that is the Shining hallway, or that is a Monty python reference… Or look a GUNDAM! YOU’RE SO COOL FOR COLLECTING THOSE GUN PLA! Look we have also overwatch and halo in the background! You’re so cool modern gamer!
Also the obviously attractive “nerd” hacker girl that thinks she’s ugly and deformed for having a small hard to see red tint in one side of her pretty face… Cmon man. In no universe anyone would think that actress is ugly.
And the message at the end is so hilarious: Look man, you’re cool for getting these references and being a real gamer is cool, but go outside more!
Is like the creators have no self awareness.
I have no clue how the original Mad Max made it out of Australia, let alone spawn a minor cinematic universe…
Mad Max is amazing for what it is; an apocalyptic film made on a shoestring budget that depicted something that feels prophetic now. You have to look at it and compare it to other films in the 70s; if you look at, for instance, Roger Corman films, it’s Oscar-worthy in comparison. When you put it in the genre of ozploitation films, it’s solid gold.
My pick would be fury road. The early ones at least have the appeal (imho) of being a low budget movie with a relatable plot
Then it suddenly gets a gigantic budget with a plot that is basically a back and forth in the desert.
I’m curious when you were born and where you’re from?
It was a product of it’s time which is to say that even though it wasn’t particularly good, it was representative of the schlocky action sci-fi films one might have seen just a few years earlier during the drive-in Grindhouse era.
I think that Ready Player One was terribly ported from the book format to the movie. The book went so much more over the top than the movie did, the latter turning down on a lot of nerd aspects. Having said that, different formats need different ways for conveying the same idea. The main character would literally get a “+1 blazing sword” in the book. +1. As if it were an MMO or something.
Having said that, Dune (book and movie) were terrible. The movie felt plagued with references to stuff I didn’t get. Only recently did I read the book just to find it was as uninteresting as the movie.
I’ll never forget those opera singers singing right to my ears when a ship would land… Now that’s a way to startle a person.
On the bright side, reading the book has allowed me not see the second part of the movie.
Avatar
That’s a strange film. I watched it at the cinema when released and enjoyed the visuals, but it seemed like the story was purposely simplified to a wild west love yarn so that the audience would have to focus on the visuals. There’s so little to distract from the “cutting edge” CGI, any depth to the plot or characters would be detrimental to the six fucking years he spent making it.
Which I can understand as it does achieve that. And I didn’t hate it, mainly because it did look amazing and I wasn’t distracted from that. But I’ve never watched it again and wouldn’t want to.
Weird.
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Dances With Aliens was a masterpiece, dammit!!!
Seriously, it was fine I guess. Agreed that it looked fucking amazing in theaters.
Same. I liked the movies for what they are: expensive, cinematic special-effects thrill rides with pretty much the loosest stories.
The second one looked absolutely gorgeous in theaters.
Name a main character. Not the actor, the character.
If you can, you’ll be the first person who has been able to that I have asked. (Though I have never asked online.)
You’ve asked the wrong guy. All I know is it’s Kevin Costner.
So close, if only you had said Mary McDonnell.
John Smith?
Jake from State Farm?
I knew them (Sam & Zoe’s characters), but I watched the sequel only last year. I probably couldn’t have told you had you asked me in 2022.
I don’t remember any other character names from either movie.
The key is to watch it in 3D… on acid. The dialogue and characters are hilarious and the world is beautiful.
I’m probably going to get some hate for this one, but Spider-Man: Across The Spiderverse. The story wasn’t as tight as the first movie, they introduced too many new characters to keep up with, and it ended with a setup for the next movie.
Why do both of the Spider-Man animated movies look like they’re something like 15 frames per second? It actually made me sort of nauseous to watch them when things were moving around really fast.
I haven’t seen them but it might be a callback to early animation.
To keep costs down and speed up production, cartoons (pre digital animation) would often be animated at around 15 fps, sometimes going as slow as 10 or 12 fps. Each frame was then photographed 2 or 3 times to bring the frame rate up to 24 or 30 fps depending on the media. Robotech, Scooby-Doo, Mighty Max and the original Duck Tales come to mind as examples. Hanna Barbara cartoons were also known for being on the lower end of the spectrum.
The Purge. They’re all dumb as fuck. “No lawz fur wun day. Halps soseyetti.”
Yeah no, trust in the government would break the floor and anarchy would reign instead. Not to mention businesses would probably refuse to operate here.
Seriously, it’s always been the dumbest fucking premise of all time.
Chaos, not anarchy!
Don’t get me stated on how fucking dumb it is that everyone everywhere just immediately turns to murder. Crime isn’t something I have a problem with, so when I say I’ve never committed a murder it’s not because the pesky laws are stopping me. I just genuinely don’t see the need to kill someone. But no, everyone and their mom is going full zodiac all day all night if it went for laws!
That’s a plot point in the prequel one (I’ve only seen the first one, though) and from one of the trailers I remember seeing, during the very first Purge people were just throwing huge parties and getting all kinds of fucked up, and the people on charge were disappointed because they just wanted people to kill each other.
It was posed as some sort of secret government conspiracy to keep the population/minorities/what have you “in check.”
That just sounds like a saturnalia
I would be boosting high dollar items and parking them in my yard.
I would say most people would just do nothing and the rest would go buy drugs
I love The Purge, especially election day. They really hit that sweet spot between exploitative horror and substantive political commentary.
Which is what the best B movies do.
Are these highly praised? I thought they were at best considered fine examples of a genre that’s looked down upon.
Really? I’d guess the opposite would happen, and the power vacuum would be quickly filled by alternate purge-day-only governments.
The Matrix. So, so dumb. Dumb, lots of dumb.
Absolutely the most overhyped film I’ve ever paid money to see.
In a thread full of hot takes, you’ve picked the hottest. I’d expect Lemmy users and people who like The Matrix have a Venn diagram that’s just two nested circles.
Ha, yeah, I thought it might not go down well, but I’m not trolling. I genuinely hated that movie.
Not gonna lie, never seen the full movie(s) and probably never will at this point since it doesn’t interest me.
It was dumb, but at least it was semi-fun dumb. Thank goodness they never made any more Matrix movies after the first one.
shut up shut up shut up shut up no they didn’t shut up shut up
I don’t think it’s dumb but very overrated and not anywhere near as deep as people make it out to be. It’s little surprise that “the red pill” had been embraced by so many arrogant people that are pretty ignorant.
Using people as batteries never made sense since you’d have to continually use energy to feed them and they really dont make that much heat energy.
If I remember correctly in the first drafts they used the brain for computational power but went for the battery idea because it was, for a then tech illiterate audience, easier to understand.
Ok no. The matrix, the whole trilogy, it’s a damn masterpiece. Misunderstood to the max. I won’t bother with a essay because I know haters never move from their place.
the whole trilogy, it’s a damn masterpiece
An unpopular opinion from OP themselves.
I like the matrix series, but the two sequels are far from being masterpieces. The 2nd was a good action set piece, but the 3rd one got a bit up its own ass at times trying to fit all the exposition in with the action scenes.
As usual people don’t understand the hidden message, every dialogue the AI characters say is ON POINT. Even Neo, becoming less human and more omnipresent and digital z everywhere, meanwhile Smith becomes more human. Is perfect, the antithesis, the one and the zero, binary code. Is perfect. Majority of people just don’t get it.
And the very hidden references in music and Hinduism… I stand in my position, the movie is too clever for the average dumb viewer.
Hey, I’m not a hater, at least not in the trolling sense. I just genuinely think it’s a poor movie and massively massively overrated. Never saw the sequels as I had zero interest.
I’d be curious to see what you think of the sequels because I only loved the first movie and hated everything that came after it. But I totally understand that you have no interest in watching them.
Hey, you asked for these exact kinds of takes.
Well, everyone is wrong sometimes, you just chose today. That film is a masterpiece. And yes they ripped off a bunch of other shit, but they did so with proper style.
Masterpiece, schmasterpiece. It’s a series of dumb set pieces tied together with a pseudo-philosophical plot and some impressive effects.
Just IMO, of course.
And if you watch the matrix today for the first time, everything is cliche and done to death.
The reason for this is that every single action movie after the matrix has copied it. When it released, it blew people away. No one had seen anything like it. I remember going to see it after an event because of how much people wouldn’t stop talking about it. Even overhyped, I was blown away.
The Matrix defined action movies for a decade+
When it released, it blew people away
I actually saw it on release in the cinema. Hated it. Ah well :-)
I saw it in theaters too. Two months later, I saw The 13th Floor. Dark City had come out the year before.
I think that all of this was just the zeitgeist of the time.
I mean, the post is literally asking for unpopular opinions, so… respect the honesty at least
Thank you :-)
Don’t Look Up. It felt like a movie made by a Redditor who thinks he’s really smart.
Gravity isn’t a space movie. It’s just 2 hours of Sandra Bullock crying and hallucinating. It’s probably the second worst movie I’ve ever seen after Open Water.
James Cameron’s Titanic. It’s marketed as a romantic film, but the moment you start looking at other aspects of the movie, it just seems stupid. The antagonist is so cartoonishly evil, it’s a wonder they didn’t give him a mustache to twirl.
And then there’s the ending. Oh dear lord, the ending. Spoiler warning and all that: at the end of the movie, The Titanic s(t)inks and the passengers try to get to safety. Rose finds a floating door or something to stay afloat and finds Jack swimming in the freezing ocean. Then Jack makes the most non-sensical decision in the entire movie: he sacrifices his own life for no good reason. The plot frames it as a necessary sacrifice, but it totally IS unnecessary, because there was enough room on the stupid door for two people. And then we flash forward to the present, where Rose is old, but still has that gem she wore throughout the movie… and then she tosses it into the ocean. WHY.
Basically the plot boils down to: two young people have a fling on a boat and then the boat sinks. It absolutely did NOT deserve all those academy awards it got that year.
People are STILL bringing up the “there’s enough room” arguments?
The movie LITERALLY shows you why it doesn’t work. At first they both try to climb on it, but they’re too heavy and the stupid thing capsizes. Only then is Jack like “You go take it, Imma good”
Also, Mythbusters tried it and got the same results. 2 people to heavy, 1 ok.
It’s been a while since I’ve seen the movie (and have no desire to see it again) and I don’t remember the scene as clearly, so that’s on me. Throwing away the gem was still colossaly stupid, though.
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No, the Mythbusters actually proved the door could support two people. At the end James Cameron himself basically throws his hands up, concedes and makes some comment about “whatever, if the script says Jack has to die, Jack is dying.” Rewatch the edpisode if ya don’t believe me
Yes, after the took off their lifebelts and tied them under the door for adden buoyancy.
I think two people, already stressed to their teeth, now also suffering from hypothermia can be forgiven for not having the same presence of mind in that situation
Guess i forgot about that detail, so thanks for the correction. The end results are the same either way though. The door can float 2 but the script says jack has to die, rendering the entire argument pretty moot. James Cameron’s comment was basically “science be dammed, Jack’s drowning.”
I’m sure if Cameron realized that the door of that size, with two life jackets underneath could support two people, he would have written the door to be smaller. It’s ok not to like the film, but this is just CinemaSins level pedantic.
Black Panther.
It had so much hype in the media, i was so excited to watch it. It turned out to be rather boring and forgettable.
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
I’m a huge Tarantino fan and enjoyed every single one of his movies, except that one.
Maybe you had to have been in the Hollywood scene at the time to understand the humor, but I was bored out of my mind the whole time and wondered whether he’s making fun of the audience and seeing if he can get away with a movie without a real storyline if he just includes his signature foot shots, long conversations about nothing and a massacre at the end.I’m a huge Tarantino fan and enjoyed every single one of his movies, except that one.
Are you including Jackie Brown in this assessment? Because that’s the one Tarantino film I’d never return to. Bored the shit out of me.
I can see how Once Upon a Time in Hollywood wouldn’t do it for a lot of people. The storyline was pretty bloody thin.
From memory, my wife and I had only just recently watched the Aquarius TV series (a few years after it was made) followed by Mindhunter (we were on a true crime kick back then), so the intersection with the Manson murders kept us hooked. Also, Tarantino using the same Aussie actor from Mindhunter to reprise the role of Manson felt like a really cool Easter egg.
But, that’s the thing about Tarantino - he’s always going to be polarizing. You either love or hate a given piece of his work, I guess.
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I disagree entirely. Jackie Brown is actually my favorite Tarantino film.
Tasteful and interesting.
See? That just illustrates my point perfectly. I reckon Tarantino intentionally sets out to put people firmly on either side of the love/hate fence, with each film.
It was hugely freeing for me to realize this. I didn’t really care for Death Proof and I absolutely hated Inglorious Bastards. My friends thought I was crazy. After loving Kill Bill and everything I had seen before it, I thought Tarantino had just gotten too far up his own ass. Then Django came out and was just fun and cathartic and I realized I just needed to take each project as it came
damn i loved jackie brown i thought it was fantastic. and i also loved once upon a time in hollywood
Damn, Jackie Brown is great
I think the problem was that half of the movie was a memorial to the victims of the Charles Manson murders and the other half of the movie was about Brad Pitt and DiCaprio, and the two stories had absolutely zero synergy.
I never finished it j just got bored
just includes his signature foot shots
To be fair, those foot shots are … as good as foot shots can be, at least.
Sigh.
That was the last movie I saw in theaters until two weeks ago when I saw Furiosa.
I enjoyed Once Upon A Time In Hollywood. Furiosa was better, though.
Dark Knight trilogy. I firmly think between Nolan and Bale, Batman is forever scared. Every version I’ve seen of Batman sense has been this dark brooding boring character. Oh and that ridiculous voice. “The Batman”, kept dark and brooding but at least he was a detective again. But that trilogy was terrible beginning to end. The slight glimmer of hope is Heath Ledger’s performance which was great but still not enough to carry a trilogy.
What’s it’s like to be so fucking wrong?
Sorry you like garbage
Man you’re on fire haha
Batman has been dark and broody decades before the Nolan trilogy.
There have been lighter versions but dark and broody are basically core qualities of the character
Yeah no. I think you’re confused because Batman Begins came out in 2005 which was decades ago.
If you forgot he’s actually also known as Bruce Wayne and he knows how to smile and have a good time. Any actually cared about the various villains that he fought against. He used to be a clever detective.
Post Nolan he is has lost a lot of complexity. That complexity of the character offset his serious side when the cowl came on.
Look me dead in the eye and tell me Nolan’s Batman is better than BTAS. Or is even in the same ballpark.
Yeah no. I think you’re confused because Batman Begins came out in 2005 which was decades ago.
I’m talking about Batman the character, you know? The one first published in 1939. There have been multiple versions but “dark and broody” has been a pretty common trait
If you forgot he’s actually also known as Bruce Wayne and he knows how to smile and have a good time
No, it’s been well established he cannot get past the trauma of having his parents murdered in front of him. Actually, it has been well established he is now Batman and Bruce is the disguise… So no, he doesn’t really know how to have a good time
Post Nolan he is has lost a lot of complexity. That complexity of the character offset his serious side when the cowl came on.
Not really Nolan’s fault and not what you claimed first either. Batfleck for example was not dark and broody, he was just a fumbling idiot who claimed his superpower was money
Look me dead in the eye and tell me Nolan’s Batman is better than BTAS. Or is even in the same ballpark
Again moving the goal post … What does BTAS have to do with your comment that Nolan made Batman dark and broody??
If anything Nolan had by miles the best live action Bruce Wayne, the whole billionaire airhead mask he created Bruce, the character in that universe is perfect. Nobody would believe that asshole rich dude that showers with top models in a pool inside a restaurant and buys the place in that instant is Batman. It works.
Later version like that hulking dumbass Batfleck or extremely emo Battinson don’t work as well. Also I don’t see what’s so great about Keaton batman, he’s so boring and quiet, with no contrast between Bruce and batman. Then the one scene with emotion is the LET’S GET 🥜 scene but that’s it.
So you just like the new lazy writing. Got it.
Because I know you didn’t just draw a straight line from the 1939 Batman to the current Batman and was like ‘these are the same!’
I’ll go watch my Adam West to Kevin Conroy versions. Where he was a multi-dimensional character. And you can enjoy the more modern one where he glares at people and had been reduced to ‘I’m Batman’. And this is where we part ways. Cuz this is a threat about opinions I gave mine and you are clearly mad that I don’t like your favorite version of Batman.
So you just like the new lazy writing. Got it.
No idea where you are drawing this from
Because I know you didn’t just draw a straight line from the 1939 Batman to the current Batman and was like ‘these are the same!’
Oh I see, you lack reading comprehension. To make it extra clear, having a common trait (what I actually said) does not mean “these are the same”
And this is where we part ways. Cuz this is a threat about opinions I gave mine and you are clearly mad that I don’t like your favorite version of Batman.
I’m not mad at all… Disagreeing with you does not make me your enemy… You care confusing me with yourself lol
Multi dimensional Adam west? LMAO he was either a corny ass rich dude or a corny ass hero. With bad jokes even for the era.
La La Land. Musicals are already on thin ice, but a musical about some arrogant, self obsessed people complaining about how hard it is trying to be (and ultimately succeeding in being) successful?? UGH. Shut it all down.
Right?! “Oh no we are so brilliant and talented and smoking hot, but the world won’t just give us success on a silver platter and now that we made our dreams come true we miss being together”.
More importantly, >!they just gave up on their relationship because one of them was leaving the country? For what, less than a year? After all that, they just threw it all away because they didn’t want to deal with FaceTime for a couple of months? Bet they felt real fucking dumb when the pandemic hit.!<
Most of Wes Anderson’s.
I worked on the space shuttle program, and I found Armageddon almost unwatchable. I mean, those things go up with the big solid rockets and an external tank full of hydrogen and oxygen, all of which get jettisoned during launch, then they come down as a glider. But in the movie they’re landing on asteroids and taking off again, smashing into things and still flying, etc. (remember how Columbia blew up because of a crack in the leading edge of one wing?). Plus the whole premise of it being easier to teach oil drillers how to be astronauts than to teach astronauts how to be oil drillers is a joke. Every astronaut I’ve met has been an amazing capable person - many are test pilots with multiple advanced degrees.
I always love the interview with Ben Affleck about Armageddon: “I asked Micheal why it would be easier to train drillers to be astronauts rather than vice versa, and he just responded with ‘fuck you.’”
Ha! I hadn’t heard that - I’m glad someone involved called him out on it. I mean, I get that the real answer - to that and all my complaints - is that the movie doesn’t work otherwise, but it’s so annoying.
If the movie doesn’t work unless you include a plot hole then the movie doesn’t work.
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Because it’s easier to put someone in a suite than teach them years of experience of drilling. You might remember that even the experianced driller had trouble. They also send astronauts with them as well to do the astronaut things, not just the driller crew.
The smashing into things thing and still taking off…well the movie was supposed to have a happy end for the remaining crew. It would’ve still been a happy end to have them die, but this way you get a lovely reunion with the families.
I don’t know you, but if you go by questioning plot-armor, you’ll have a really hard time to find something to watch.
Agreed. All the drillers have to do is ride. OTOH, neither group would fare well learning to drill in microgravity.
There’s also the really stupid “high G burn around the moon” scene, which I would love to see Scott Manley try to replicate in KSP.
I don’t understand the the thinking that astronauts would be amazing drillers. Drilling is functionally a trade, the education aspect isn’t the key factor, it’s the experience. The movie actually does a fair job explaining why.
I never said that being a driller is trivial. Do you think being an astronaut is trivial? That’s a pretty intensely technical job, which is why the bar for entry is so insanely high. I would put my money on those folks leaning how to drill better than drillers leaning how to be an astronaut.
It’s not trivial to be an astronaut, but most didn’t need to be. Flying the ships, docking, and landing on an asteroid all require intense skills. The drilling required a similarly intense set of skills that you can’t gain in a week. You can probably teach someone the bare minimum of putting on a suit and working in it.
I would have written it so the drilling crew needed to learn to be astronauts and the astronauts needed to learn drilling and send them both up. That way, they would be each other’s backups and you get another small story arc out of it.
I’m sorry but I ADORE Armageddon lol is very emotional and self aware. Is definitely a NO BORING movie and always keeps moving, even when there’s no explosions going on. Ben Affleck > Neil Armstrong, I bet he couldn’t had reached those 400 feet in time! 💣
As soon as you know too much about a certain topic, any movie or series about it turns to shit.
I’m a nurse and badly done medical stuff in movies are so rampant and it drives me crazy.
That’s super true. What’s worse is that it often turns out to be true of news as well. There have been a few times when I was familiar with events that made the news, and there were always inaccuracies in the articles. It’s made me look at articles on events that I’m not familiar with differently; they probably have the same amount of inaccuracies.
I’m software engineering in aerospace, so a lot of computer and space stuff is ruined, which covers a lot of content.
But everyone should smack their heads about Armageddon.
Astronauts brains are too big, their soft womanly hands incapable of drilling. Wearing a spacesuit and floating around a bit is trivial. Only some yeehaw boys and one man who ‘tells it like it is’ can save us.
That’s why I liked Deep Impact. It went must more (potentially) realistic than Armageddon. But the latter wanted its “common man, that people can relate to, saves the day” trope.
Deep impact is a great movie! Directed by Mimi Leder. She also directed The Peacemaker, a great 90’s adventure movie with George Clooney and Nichole Kidman. If you’re into that sort of thing.
