• @[email protected]
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      Working (in French) with lot of people that are native English speakers, this one never gets old. We usually answer with “We know, that’s why your wage is subsidized”.

      They usually come back at us when we say “Je suis fatigué”

  • @[email protected]
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    Plenty of you tards are out there living kick ass lives. My first wife was a tarded. She’s a pilot now.

    • @[email protected]
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      For normal people, to be late to something.

      For this guy, the R slur against those with learning disorders.

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          I found a training thing that included the phrase “retard power” in an aviation context. The best part was the way it was enunciated. Not “ri-tard” like you do when it’s a verb, but long E ree-tard. I absolutely clipped it.

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          That’s hilarious. Is it still in use or say it differently now?

          I’m thinking about master>slave in tech. Or rapeseed became Canola. Or how we say Uranus differently.

      • @[email protected]
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        you know this is the internet and you are allowed to type whatever you want, right? let me show you: “retarded”

        • Wet Noodle
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          “whatever you want”… they wanted to be a respectful person.

          • @[email protected]
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            “IDGI, this person has the option to be the worst version of themselves. Why dont they choose to do that?!? Also why does noone want to be around me? Could it be that marinating my brains in a writhing compost of clapbacks and dunks is desensitizing me to my own dehumanizing? No. Clearly this is because woke.”

          • @[email protected]
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            Is saying the word retarded without calling some it disrespectful? Is it now a trigger word? I’m genuinely wondering. Because when we were growing up we used the word EVERYWHERE. It was as common as saying “fricken”

            • lost_faith
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              We used LOTS of words then that are now not ok to use. Growing as individuals and groups is a good thing, being attentive to others is a good thing, understanding that you see no offence to a word where others do and changing that behaviour betters everyone.

                • Cethin
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                  Dude, I don’t think you understand what fascism is about. Telling someone something is wrong isn’t fascism or saying murder is wrong would be fascism.

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              People used to use the n-word all the time, so it must be perfectly OK to say!

              This is the exact same argument. It doesn’t work, right? Why would it here? Sure, there may (I doubt it, but I’ll leave the possibility open) be other reasons why it’s OK to say, but throw that argument out.

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                The n-word did not have any other definitions. Something that is retarded is merely delayed or slowed down usually in the context of some task.

                • Cethin
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                  It did though? It was used for black things. The word literally means black.

            • @[email protected]
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              Yeah you’re not supposed to even say “my son’s reading skills are somewhat retarded but we hope he can catch up to his peers”. Or “Progess on Trump’s border wall has been retarded for various reasons.”

            • @[email protected]
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              It’s a slur, that’s why. Some slurs are major slurs that are considered offensive even when it’s not referring to someone, and I think this is one of them. They’re often forbidden because of it, and a lot of people find it easier to follow universal rules than to check the rules of each place they post, because the universal rules will keep you in the clear 95% of the time. And even if not, it’s still respectable to not want to use slurs.

              And yeah, it did used to be a lot more common. And before that, it was a medical term. That’s the way it goes, we have a word to insult people’s intelligence, doctors deal with patients who have a disorder causing that, they don’t want to use the mean word to refer to the patients, they come up with a new word for it, the word gets out, and then everyone makes it a new word to insult intelligence. Though this one seems to be taking a different track because it hit modern sensibilities, and at the same time I think doctors now know better than to come up with a new word for mental deficiencies.

              • @[email protected]
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                Were the insults necessary or did they add anything useful to your comment?

                As for the actual question in your comment, though your quick follow-up to insults suggests you meant it as a rhetorical question and just wanted to assume they were doing the same thing as they were criticizing, “fricken” (or “friggen”) was used in many cases by kids who were scared of getting in trouble for using “real” swear words. Which was the whole point of that comment: kids who were afraid to really swear casually used “retard” and many adults who would lose their shit over “fucking” didn’t bat an eye at “retard”. And even when they did, it was because of the insult to the one called “retard”. If anyone brought up mentally disabled people, it was more about furthering the insult rather than actually caring how they felt.

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                The other said what needed to be said. Do you talk to anyone the way you do? You do realize you’re talking to real people with real life experiences. And if you used any critical thought you’d understand the innocence of using the word “fricken” or “friggen” in my comment was to illustrate that in our child community growing up, we used the retard word along with that. And it was almost never used to call someone that, it was used to call a situation that. Like “that’s retarded let’s not do that”.

                And yeah I don’t use that word anymore as an adult.

  • Joe Cool
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    The comments are pretty interesting when you read them on lemmy.ml

    That instance has server wide word filtering enabled that can’t be removed.

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      Mass censorship is very cool and definitely not a stepping stone to an authoritarian hellscape.

      • Echo Dot
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        Perhaps it’s a sexual thing. You know like if you are hit a lot as a child.

        Perhaps Tankies learn to enjoy censorship and repression. That’s the only justification I can think of for censoring themselves, it’s pretty hilarious when you think about it.

      • @[email protected]
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        Depends on what is being censored. Hate speech? Censor the shit out of it. Sexual stuff? Not needed.

        • @[email protected]
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          Nope. Completely missed the point.

          What is unspoken there is that censorship is always based on good intentions such as yours. People trying to censor sex are trying to do the same thing you’re trying to do with censoring hate speech.

          “Only censoring the bad stuff” is not the solution here. It’s the source of the problem.

          • Armok: God of Blood
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            Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master.

      • @[email protected]
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        The idea that moderating slurs on an online forum is a stepping stone to an authoritarian hellscape really requires a special kind of brain worms

        • Armok: God of Blood
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          I got an instance ban from ML for two weeks because they treat “tankie” like some sort of slur.

          • Echo Dot
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            The biggest bunch of snowflakes there ever was. They don’t like it when you actively describe them.

      • Joe Cool
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        I’m actually OK with it.

        It’s their instance, you can check the wordlist in the config. It’s the slur_filter_regex. If it would bother me too much I’d change instance or spin up my own.
        I’m more enraged by shadow banning like on “other platforms”.

        • Echo Dot
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          ml hands out bans people who slightly disagree with their Communist loving opinions, how is that not censorship like on “other” platforms?

          • @[email protected]
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            Lol it’s too much credit to call them communist loving. Marx would be turning in his grave if he saw the regimes these tankies venerate

            • Echo Dot
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              Of course Marx isn’t really a good hold up either. Any actually communist society probably wouldn’t follow a lot of his doctrines. His beliefs, if actually implemented, would have all ended in civil unrest anyway. His views were inherently unfair and very much open to abuse and corruption. If you were unlucky enough to be on the bottom rung of society then that’s where you stayed.

              A modern view of communism would be much closer to socialism than anything Marx advocated for. At least socialism allows for social advancement.

              On a continuum where you’ve got tankies on one side and socialism on the other, Marx would be closer to the Tankies end of the spectrum than the socialist. He’s definitely not in the middle.

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                Fair enough. I know a lot of his views were rooted in traditions and biases he grew up around. My point was more just that tankies and places like modern Russia and China aren’t really communist.

                My girlfriend is Chinese and she has shared so many examples of classism and wealth inequality there, many of which are enforced by the state and its laws. China is in many ways no more egalitarian than the US.

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                  Given the degree of government interference in the market there, I would say China is less egalitarian than the USA.

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                  Karl Marx wouldn’t approve of China though. Nothing about a classful society would be supported by Marx.

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                If you were unlucky enough to be on the bottom rung of society then that’s where you stayed.

                A modern view of communism would be much closer to socialism than anything Marx advocated for. At least socialism allows for social advancement.

                My guy you don’t know shit. Marx believed in a classless society. There would be no “rungs”. Also what he believed in is socialism, because communism is a form of socialism. This is what happens when you believe what the right wing tells you about Karl Marx without actually asking any leftists or reading it for yourself.

                A lot of the things Tankies believe like the concept of a Vanguard party happened after Marx. Marx would have never approved of the USSR, or at least how it ended and all the things that happened under Stalin.

                • Echo Dot
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                  Marx believed in a classless society.

                  Yeah but he didn’t. Because money still exists and been poor meant you got less money. So no matter what he said you would still have less. You’d need UBI to really go classless

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          slur_filter_regex":"(fag(g|got|tard)?\\b|cock\\s?sucker(s|ing)?|ni((g{2,}|q)+|[gq]{2,})[e3r]+(s|z)?|mudslime?s?|kikes?|\\bspi(c|k)s?\\b|\\bchinks?|gooks?|bitch(es|ing|y)?|whor(es?|ing)|\\btr(a|@)nn?(y|ies?)|\\b(b|re|r)tard(ed)?s?)",
          
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              What? it looks fine to me, outside of the general difficulty of reading regex. I mean, it’s not meant to be readable, it’s meant to catch all the different spellings if what they want to filter and do so.

    • @[email protected]
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      What’s hilarious about that place is you can type removed and they can’t tell the difference between that and a slur being blanked out by the system.

  • @[email protected]
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    To be fair retarded means slowed or delayed so how many times was anon retarded in getting to work?

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      I never actually understood why retarded was used by mechanics when a car wasn’t running right “The timing on this is a bit retarded” but now I know. Thank you

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        There’s also a thing called a retarder built into lorries and other heavy vehicles so they don’t melt their brake pads, think engine breaking as the basic version, add special engineering sauce and you get something that is good at slowing stuff down without burning up, but not good at all at arresting it in place. The term is also used with railroads but those are actual breaks. Similar to the ones you see on roller-coasters.

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        surprisingly the opposite is advanced timing, protarded isn’t a word.
        There is retrograde <> prograde but only Kerbal players know what it means ;)

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          Not really surprising. That last part “tard” comes from the Latin tardus which basically means slow or late. The “re” particle originally just had a meaning of repetition, in this case. So being late (not for the first time? ) So changing the first part of the word wouldn’t change the meaning of it so easily. Maybe technically something like “intard” could make sense in that way (similarly as what you find in words like indomitable, impossible, ineffective etc), but it doesn’t really exist. Or if we want to make it more meme-like, tarden’t?

          Protarded actually exists as a slang with completely different meaning, but that’s out of scope

          Overall useless information for most, but anyway

    • ASeriesOfPoorChoices
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      retarded means tardy again. If you’re late once, you’re tardy. Do it again and you’re retarded.

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      I was just on a trip to France with my brother who doesn’t speak French. He was quite amused by all the signs that said retard, like when a train was running late. I speak French so it was utterly normal for me

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      That’s okay because we’re having a fire retardant door installed. Once it’s in, you’re outta there bud

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    Anon is a retard. Also why did that word go out of style? I know damn well it’s because it was abused but by definition:

    to delay or impede the development or progress of : to slow up especially by preventing or hindering advance or accomplishment

    It’s a fair critique. We need to stop this PC bullshit. I’m saying this as a father of two children in the spectrum and neither of them are retards.

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      It’s not about being PC, it’s about how the word is used. There’s nothing wrong with the word as it’s defined, but when it becomes a common insult it becomes less acceptable. Just like any other swear word.

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        If my name ever becomes a commonly used insult, what then?

        Any word can become an insult. It’s time to take some words back. We have to actively correct misused words. It may make a difference.

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          Well queer used to be an insult but the LBGTQ+ community reclaimed it. First though, some time needs to pass and afterwards the community that was targeted needs to decide to want to use the word.

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          I don’t get the obsession with reintroducing negatively charged words into the common language. Isn’t english a rich enough language that there’s an abundance of substitutes for words?

          • @[email protected]
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            You may invent words as long as you like, but those words can definitely become corrupted as well. It will be an endless cycle.

            The only way to stop that is to put our feet down and correct the misuse.

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              Look at something written 500 years ago. 100 years ago. 50 years ago. Language changes all the time, and there is no stopping that. Yep, language is an endless cycle of switching out common words and adapting to social rules. I’d highly reccommend to follow that flow instead of trying to bring back the “good old days” when n-words and r-words were common and accepted.

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          Good luck with that. Let us all know when you’ve solved a problem intrinsic to human nature so we can let you cure greed next.