• @[email protected]
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    More than two thirds of Florida adults consider climate change a threat to future generations and say state and local governments should do more to address it, according to a poll released Monday by Florida Atlantic University.

    The poll found 68 percent of respondents agreed with the statement that climate change “has them concerned about the well-being of future generations in Florida,” according to a news release from the university. Just 28 percent said state, county and city governments were doing enough to address it. source

    It’s not a self-inflicted wound. I am so tired of this misinformation for the sake of pithy humor. Recognize oppression when you see it or you are on the side of fascism.

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      Recognize oppression when you see it or you are on the side of fascism.

      Nonsense. Florida is part of the freest and fairest democracy in the entire history of the universe. If Floridians wanted to do something about climate change, they would simply vote harder.

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      Thanks for posting this. I’ve lived in Florida my whole life, and voted blue-no-matter-who in every election since I was eligible to vote, as do all my friends and family. I try to help others within my sphere of influence to make good political choices, too, and those conversations can be hard. My area has been particularly red for as long as I can remember, and that has only gotten more true in recent years. It often sucks to live here but I am stuck for the foreseeable future, and so I am putting forth the effort to change what I am able.

      As such, I have always found it a bit discouraging that so many seem to think that Florida is some hive-mind phenomenon, wherein every eligible person votes against their own best interests in perfect unison. I mean, a lot of them do, obviously – but the lack of empathy for the rest of us, that’s the weird part to me.

      Also, this got me curious and I looked up how the voter base skews along party lines, the numbers are way closer than I would have guessed.

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        1411 months ago

        Thanks for sharing. On the behalf of the rest of the “leftist” internet I’d like to apologize.

        There’s a lot of demented jokes people make about the underserved and oppressed and I try to do my part to counteract it. :)

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        Mostly the Cubans and old folks from other states who move there for their last decade or two of life. The old folks will be dead before it’s a problem, the Cubans refuse to vote for anyone left of hitler because they hate the idea of another people’s revolution taking their ill-gotten wealth, even though todays Cuban Americans aren’t nearly as powerful as the Cubans that the revolution overthrew.

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        Yes, because decades of gerrymandering, voter suppression, lobbying, political corruption and misinformation campaigns directed toward one of the most educationally underserved states has absolutely no effect on elections.

        What you are doing is usually termed victim blaming, so careful.

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          Be careful? Ease off the drama my man.

          77 percent voter turnout and 51 percent voted for Trump. At some point it just becomes a matter of infantalizing people.

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              Sadly technically not true! Look into climate gentrification. Because the housing market is prospective in nature, lower-socioeconomic communities at higher elevations more secure from climate change are being displaced by higher costs of living. It’s quite sad and just one part of the iceberg’s tip. :(

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        they’re still voting for Republicans

        Every time I check the Florida election results its “5-4, Republicans win”. You Floridians need literally one more vote, but those stupid tankie leftists just won’t pitch in.

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      Floridians are still voting Red in droved. Guess something else is more important to them at the polls.

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        They gotta ban abortion and ‘save’ all the fetuses first so they too can experience the horrors of global warming and climate change under the watchful eye of a theocratic dictatorship.

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          What n happens when all the fetuses are underwater? Will they save them then, or swim to higher ground?

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            Don’t you know fetuses float? The tide will bring them to the true believers, just like Moses on the Nile /s

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            If I understand their thinking it’d be God who caused the flooding so it’s okay if fetuses die that way. They were probably gay fetuses anyway and their mothers were probably sinners so God drowned them like in Noah’s story.

            Okay I’m done. My brain can’t handle typing anymore of that horrible bullshit.

  • @[email protected]
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    Oh look another Democrat Hoax!
    Get out of here with your Al Gore lies!

    Look at all that new beachfront property!

    also /S

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    Wonder what happens if Florida even go red.

    Heat probably.

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      Well of course the rich will leave, then even with the gerrymandering Dems or even progressives can take control, just in time to be blamed like Biden for Trump’s tax hikes (the cuts were permanent for the rich and temporary followed by hikes for us plebs).

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    Sea level rise of 5 meters isn’t happening in any of our lifetimes. Don’t get me wrong, climate change and its resulting sea level rise are very very real, but even the most dire forecasts don’t predict a 5 meter sea level rise in the next 100 years. Models of a high emissions scenario has the rise “only” going up 3.9 meters 126 years from now

    https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-sea-level

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      Sea level rise of 5 meters isn’t happening in any of our lifetimes.

      Report: 500K South Florida Homes at Risk of Storm Surge

      The newly released report highlights the Miami metro area’s mass exposure to coastal flooding risk from hurricanes.

      Often the deadliest element of a hurricane, surge waters from strong storms can rise 15 feet or more above the ordinary sea level, enveloping streets and buildings in coastal areas.

      The report found that roughly 7.7 million homes in hurricane-exposed regions in the U.S. are susceptible to storm surge flooding.

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              Technically correct, but ultimately irrelevant. Storm surge renders properties below the point of sea-rise height uninhabitable. The fact that its temporary doesn’t mitigate the long-term destructive impact it inflicts.

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                Not irrelevant, it very much depends on the frequency and severity. Katrina Sandy flooded NYC massively, but it’s still extremely inhabited.

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              I’m sure that’s comforting to the economically underserved that have barriers to contingency plans.

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      Hurricanes and storms means that you don’t need to wait for the full amount of sea level rise. Insurance is already skyrocketing because of the damage.

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      A permanent rise, yes, but storm surges and stuff will make Miami uninhabitable far sooner than that.

      Miami elevation is 6 feet? Something like that?

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        True, good point, but the general idea still stands. It’s gonna be (I’m totally guessing here) like at least another 70 years before sea level rise + storm flooding events will make inland areas uninhabitable

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          It’ll be within the next ten years that it’ll get hit by a Katrina-like event.

          The models the ICC accepted were all “in line with historical data”. So much so that the “Hot Model Problem” became a known thing, models predicting climate change that were too hot for the ICC to accept.

          Our models are conservative, likely by a good margin.

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            If you read the link i posted you’ll see the numbers i quoted are already based on the worst case scenario of prediction ranges, rather than the scenario currently considered most likely. And your claim about a katrina level event happening there seems to be pulled out of nowhere, do you have a source citation for that prediction?

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        Then plant all the paper towels in a cool, moist, & bright environment. By the next morning, Hillary Clinton will have stolen all your guns.

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    Anyone on the florida coast knows it’s not sea rise alone that will get you.

    It’s hurricanes.

    I’m not on the coast, but let me tell you, the existential dread the last few seasons was real (and proven right with Ian), much less this upcoming season.

    Another underappreciated point: most people who live right on the coast now are snowbirds in giant mansions, who can very much afford to lose their vacation home to a hurricane. They don’t even live there most of the time.

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      There’s been talk about a category 6.

      Every year hurricane season starts earlier, they’re bigger, and they go up the coast further.

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        To be fair, they always seem to hit certainl places in certain months. West coast seems to mostly be later season, around the “I” storms.

        But yeah, not looking forward to this season.

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          The fact that the insurance industry is practically abandoning Florida is a real indicator, despite the noise around it being a hoax.

          We’re just about at the “It exists but it’s too late to do anything about it” stage.

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            What’s darkly amusing is how climate change is still too “politically sensitive” to talk about, like it’s some big controversial moral argument. Even weather guys talking about hurricane season awkwardly dance around it.

            I understand why, I have family that still thinks its all an anti christian hoax… but still.

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      I have a friend from high school who had a house collapse on her during Hurricane Ivan and she’s on disability for life now.

      And that was before the ocean was anywhere near as hot as it is now.

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    It’s kinda sad, I hate it when people footgun themselves

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    If we had a functioning government in the US, this could be less of a problem. I wonder how we get one of those?

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          They’re all Republicans, about half of them are fucking insane. The other half just wants to run a nice conservative government. They hate each other and will throw any number of us to the wolves in their spite for each other.

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      Vote for the radical leftists the Republicans have been screaming about.

      When another milquetoast moderate wins anyway, consider alternatives.

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      I mean Floridians could start mitigating the inevitable effects of climate change themselves. It’s a lot easier to get a functioning state government, they’d just have to vote for Democrats.

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    Unfortunately that will flood many of the major cities in Florida, leaving it politically redder…

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      You really think all those silver hairs will stay. They will infest alabama and it will barely change a shade.