that sub-minimum wage really hurts right about now
This will be unpopular:
Before or at the same time as we fix sub-minimum wage, we need to also address the disability benefits cliff. I personally know multiple disabled people that limit how much they are working so that they don’t hit the cutoff where all the benefits disappear, not tail off. Generally these people enjoy their work and are capable of working more, but if they earn a dollar too much, they are screwed, loosing access to a number of subsidies and medical care.
Before or at the same time as we fix sub-minimum wage, we need to also address the disability benefits cliff.
Agreed, especially the bolded part. There’s absolutely no reason we can’t do both.
It is positively evil in my opinion to implement helping laws with cutoffs like this.
Any time we make a scenario where more work equals less results for people, that’s a violation of their right to a navigable environment.
Nature doesn’t create scenarios like that. So our brains didn’t evolve for it. Only well-meaning fools make scenarios like that, trying to “help”.
Better a person never be picked up at all, than to be picked up and dropped.
Why would that be unpopular
For some reason there’s a lot of hate for disabled poeple. It’s like poeple view them as a ugly drain on society. I had a guy tell me to my face disabled poeple should be dead. Source: husband is disabled.
The fuck type of people are you talking to? I guarantee you there are way more people who want to help the disabled that kill them. Not saying this didn’t happen, but holy shit that’s crazy.
Economically it’s cheaper to help the disabled than to ignore them. It’s just makes 0 sense to force them into a situation where they’re not taken care of until they create a massive medical bill.
Oh yeah I know it’s cheaper to help the disabled, but y’know 'murica. As for who said that too me, it was a coworker.
Your coworker is a shitty person.
My little brother dealt with that on his SSI and it is total bullshit. He couldn’t work past like 15 or 20 hours a week or they’d take all of his benefits away. They need to either make them tail off slowly or move that cliff back to like $200k/yr.
I recently read an article describing how when disabled people have too much in their savings accounts or try to pay off outstanding debts, they are ordered to repay years worth of benefits. We can fix this! Peer-reviewed study after per-reviewed study (in theory and practice) has shown it costs less to just do the right things and look after each other (whether we think it’s deserved/earned/insert other term here) or not. We can fix it. It’s a matter of rolling up our sleeves and consistently apply pressure in proper spaces.
Direct action, mutual aid in the meantime. For everyone.
Also the fact they aren’t allowed to save up money. I think it’s like $2k saved up and they get cut off. That’s not even enough for first last and security deposit if they wanted to try and move to a better situation.
This is why POTUS elections are less important than congressional elections. They make the laws and they hold the checkbook. But fewer and fewer seem to understand that. And assume that the POTUS can just dictate those types of policy at their whim.
You want domestic change? You want free healthcare? Cheap education? Better infrastructure? A better judicial system?
Then vote for the people running for the institutions that can actually can make those things happen, and that ain’t supposed to be the POTUS. But evidently many, (majority?), of people can be all that arsed to bother much about the ‘Downstream’ elections.
Exactly.
The executive branch is only one part of a bigger system. Local, county, and state elections probably have a bigger impact on your lives than the presidential ones.
I live in a deep red state so my vote for President will hardly ever matter but I’ll be damned if I don’t vote against the archaic amendments that get proposed.
This is the fight that matters.
Not this time though. The supreme court really matters.
Remember - Every judge nominated by a president has to be approved by the Senate. Again, it’s Congress that holds the final say in things domestic. They can block anyone they disapprove of.
Too bad we can’t vote on who’s allowed to occupy that bench.
One single sitting conservative supreme court justice was appointed by a Republican president who won the popular vote.
There are six of them.
I love the mixed levels of irony here. On the one hand, it’s been 4 years, so it looks like a failure. At the same time, $15 just isn’t enough. What a joke. Also at the same time, if he could actually push hard on raising the minimum wage now, he could probably drum up some votes in the election.
It’s cool that all of those facts are at play in this one little statement.
Unfortunately, even if there was a dem majority all around, I don’t think we’d get a sufficient boost to minimum wage. $15 on the federal level would definitely help, but the only realistic way to get what we’re due is unionizing and starting co-ops. Luckily, that’s become more popular lately.
It isn’t enough in some areas, and arguably too much in others. There’s just too much diversity to have a reasonable minimum wage.
I say:
- abolish the minimum wage
- require tips to not be considered compensation at the employer level (employee reports, employer isn’t aware)
- create a Negative Income Tax or Universal Basic Income that varies by region based on local standards of living (my preference is to convert Social Security into such a system)
- bust up monopolies that kill small businesses
Crappy wages are a symptom that can’t really be solved by increasing a minimum wage.
Minimum Wage = $1 an hour. Maximum Wage = $30 (for underwater welders in shark infested water, celebrities and pro athletes)
Leaders get reviewed by their subordinates. Wouldn’t hurt to start over at zero either so it’s a fair game. I don’t like to play cards with cheaters.
I don’t know about those minimums. We already fight needles wars to extract others necessary resources, sell them back to them for maximum profits, while also getting them to overspend on stuff that has no practical value, in order to make things a little less expensive for our working class so billionaire and corporate overlords can maximize profit. The general gist of your idea is valid.
TL;dr the whole world is also us and we would do well to remember that.
If I’ve learned anything from video game design, it is much easier to balance smaller numbers. You’d have to be careful to figure out the most amount of some small basic staple you’d need and ensure that it wouldn’t have to cost less than 1 cent per unit, however, before setting your minimum value.
Of course, picking the value of your own local currency without regard to its value on the global market isn’t really feasible.
I am not great with mathematics, so I really would not know without someone walking me through, step-by-step, beyond basic arithmetic.
Rereading the original comment to which I replied, I’m not so sure celebrities should earn so much, not because art isn’t valuable, but because children shouldn’t be forced to it, and left to all sorts of abuse and exploration to support adults. No one should be abused and exploited, really, but especially those without personal agency of their own.
What a joke! Should be 30 an hour.
Can’t do much if the majority rule is blocking all of that.
He should be getting in front of a camera every day and saying “here’s what we’re trying to do. Here’s why it helps you/society. And here are the assholes standing in the way”. And if those assholes are Democrats, kick them out of the party and support a better candidate to run against them.
Yes! This is what strong leadership looks like. We haven’t seen it from POTUS in far too long.
It wouldn’t matter. It wouldn’t get coverage in half the media in the country. And most people don’t even watch the media, anyway. It’ll be bullshit stories and anti-liberal memes as per usual.
You can stop promising things you don’t have control over.
Easy solution to this constant nagging problem would be ending the filibuster.
When did he try and congress blocked it?
March 2021
But can make empty promises
Don’t make promises you can’t keep. Especially, if people will take you up on these promises.
I’m very confused. The president can’t know the composition of Congress during the campaign because all of the Reps are on the same ballot as the president. Are you saying prospective candidates should always say “If I’m elected and we have the house and Senate I will…” to cover their asses? I think most people understand those ramifications.
I think, this may make for an interesting art-statement, adding a page long disclaimer to everything a candidate says. I don’t think it will work out well, on the other hand
Not to cover their asses, but to push more people to vote not just for them, but for their party all down the ticket.
Yeah that’s a great idea.
A simple modifier like “I’ll push for…” would have covered his ass a lot.
I think “most” people do NOT understand those ramifications. Maybe 33% of the population does, 33% think and want the president to be a dictator, and 34% don’t pay attention to anything at all.
Failure to pay attention in civics class cannot possibly be the fault of a presidential candidate.
Also, presidents and presidential candidates do a ton of campaigning for both their own candidacy as well as for down ballot candidates in an effort to achieve these things. They’re only advertising their intentions and priorities. That’s your it has worked since the beginning of American democracy
Yeah but making promises abojt things you’ll do as President, that you can’t do as President, is the fault of a Presidential candidate.
Sure, OP is demonstrating that quite clearly, although as usual the goal is just to bash Biden (as if Trump would do any of this).
Derp, what’s a legislative branch?
Yeah, I’m sure there was no way to either pressure Sinema and/or replace the parlementarian when Congress had the chance to do this.
That apostrophe and two Ls are doing a lot of heavy lifting.
Will you do those things, Joe? Or will you try to, get foiled by Congress, attempt to do something within your power and then get foiled by the Supreme Court?
Maybe don’t say things like that until you’ve got a filibuster-proof hold of Congress. And even then it’ll get watered down.
But he’s still better than the alternative.
I don’t think “I will do what Congress permits” is a particularly good campaign promise, even if it’s the most honest thing he can say.
How about “get me a double majority in Congress and I’ll”…
Sorry, voted for a Republican House member!
He’s so handsome!
So you don’t want him to say anything until after the election, and only if he has a supermajority? That’s not how campaigning works.
“I will do my best to push for” is perfectly acceptable and also shows he has basic civics knowledge.
I am a firm believer that overpromising and underdelivering is what hurts voter turnout the most.
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Don’t worry he’ll make an executive order for this soon which will go into effect next year.
Looks like it would be a good idea to reelecte him and give him a Democratic senate and house in 2024
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and give him a Democratic senate and house in 2024
He had that in 2020 and it still didn’t pass.
There’s always some obstacle that prevents the Democrats from delivering what they promise.
There’s always some obstacle that prevents the Democrats from delivering what they promise.
I mean, it’s just so weird, isn’t it? Like how it keeps happening every. single. time. Oh well, maybe if we try getting the Dems a majority, plus the Presidency, one more time we’ll get a different result. That’s a totally sane course of action, right?
vote for trump. get what you deserve.
I’m not gonna waste my time reading a screenshot of someone else’s conversation like it’s an actual argument.
convenient. also I guess reading is hard for some folks.
I read enough to recognize a bullshit strawman argument. At least don’t be so lazy you’re unwilling to type it out yourself.
shut up and vote for trump already
He had that in 2020 and it still didn’t pass.
… except he didn’t have that in 2020… which is why it didn’t pass… what lmfao?
He did. Democrats controlled both the House and the Senate in 2020.
The bill failed to pass because a bunch of Democrats voted against it.
From the first paragraph of https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_elections :
Despite losing seats in the House of Representatives, Democrats retained control of the House and gained control of the Senate. As a result, the Democrats obtained a government trifecta, the first time since the elections in 2008 that the party gained unified control of Congress and the presidency.
… And two independents torpedoed it because they ran as Democrats despite being from essentially Republican areas with one being a giant lying sack of mega shit know as Sinema.
If you didn’t pass legislation, then you didn’t control the government. This is not a hard concept to understand. It’s one of the very few black and white ones since there is only a binary outcome lol.
And two independents torpedoed it
As well as eight other Democrats who voted against it.
Yep, what great control we had right?
We voted Democrat hard enough but voting Democrat didn’t work because we didn’t vote hard enough.
I’m sure gerrymandering has nothing to do with it…
No, I just didn’t vote hard enough. I really tried, too.
Bernie was not amused!
Barely. Manchin and Sinema kept torpedoing just about any legislation that would have been actually beneficial. Though with this specific topic it appears that eight Democrats voted against it, which is still far fewer than the number of Republicans that voted against it.
That’s not to say I’m some Democrat apologist or shill, I have so many problems with the party, but for issues like these it seems like they are the lesser of two evils and if their majority margins could increase it would likely have an effect on issues like these.
and if their majority margins could increase it would likely have an effect on issues like these.
If their majority margins increased, they’d find new excuses to not pass it.
The trend would suggest otherwise, but only one way to find out. Let’s get a higher majority in there to prove me wrong!
When Obama had the supermajority for a brief time in 2008 (70ish days IIRC) we got the ACA. It was watered down a little but but it still helps a lot of people.
Yarp, and if memory serves it was watered down because he and the Dems were attempting to engage with the Republicans in good faith and after the Dems made the concessions the Republicans asked for they still voted against it.
It looked that way long before this toot.
It’s very weird to want strong benefits from your employer and not simply as a separate thing. Maybe that’s not what he meant but the way it’s listed is vague.
Systems like that are very hard to change for some reason, so it can be impossible for one politician to rewrite the whole system. It’s a lot easier to modify the system slightly so people can get closer to the bare minimum when total reform is off the table.
Yeah Obamacare was just a tiny baby step towards universal healthcare and people are still upset over it.
Fuck Obamacare! I get my health insurance through the ACA for free cause I lost my job in the coal mine when a big rock crushed my leg! These taxes going to welfare queens are ruining the country! Trump!
Free insurance through the ACA? All I remember is it making insurance mandatory.
The reason is money.
The reason is limited time and attention
Another thread trying to encourage not voting/voting Republican.
Relentless, isn’t it. OP can’t be this dumb, right? It has to be on purpose.
Most of it is on purpose, and a good portion is useful idiots parroting propaganda they heard. Trump, the Kremlin, and a bunch of other powerful sociopaths love these threads.
Today I Learned that official statements and campaign promises from Biden are in fact now Republican propaganda. My favorite one is when Republicans made Biden said he would fight for abortion rights and queer protections.
Like mate, is calling out “Hey they didn’t even push for this once in office to the same political party” propaganda? Or is it just going “Don’t believe everything you hear from a politician, even with they are the lowest bar of ‘Not Dipshit Trump’”?
we can push him left once he wins
“You can push Biden left when we win.”
“Okay. Hey he’s in, I want to push him left and call his racist actions and policies what they are.”
“Why do you hate America? Why are you a Russian agent?”
He won 4 years ago this is pushing him left after he won.
Other people in the thread said minimum wage didn’t pass in the Senate.
So he made a promise he couldn’t keep. He didn’t try to win over the members in congress, or talk about it publicly why it’s the fault of Republicans, and not him.
That’s a cool guy. Remember when FDR just did nothing in Congress to push for Social Security? Or Minimum Wage? That was so cool of him. I especially don’t remember him making any fireside chats to the public talking about what would best for America and how you can help it.
Dude this is how Congress works. The president is not a king. Congress passes laws, not the president. You campaign and then you try to fulfill it, but if Congress blocks you there’s not much you can do
If you haven’t noticed, the right wing today is not the right wing of 70 years ago. They will gleefully burn everything to the ground. The GOP even shut down the government under Obama.
So now the question is what can you do. You vote for the Dems. You give them actual control in all 3 houses. Give them consistent and overwhelming victories.
I live in California and I vote Democrat. I vote in primaries.
The house and stats assembly where I live in republican redneck territory. The dipshit known as Kevin McCarthy was my rep. 65+% of all votes.
I fucking hate Republicans.
Why is Lemmy like this? This is half of what I see whenever I see people criticizing Joey B on here.
Why can’t people dislike and vote against Trump while also wanting to hold Biden accountable for his words/actions?
I see such a large majority of people who vote Dem/have blue/left values on here and I seriously doubt posts like these are going to change their minds. People just want to vent their frustrations with what many consider the only option they have.
Let me add to that.
“During a close election with extremely high stakes, why would we not post misleading criticism about our own candidate?”
Your questions and concerns have been discussed many times. Not sure why this concept is new to you.
Still vote, but keep pushing him to do what he promised.
No no you don’t understand!!! We don’t need to call out him promising things and then not even asking for it in office!! HE’S NOT TRUMP!!!
You’re a russian bot, or worker, or something, we’re the good guys, and that means blindly supporting the default option!!
If only Dark Brandon was real.
then do it
I think he needs help. People to vote for him and a democratic house and Senate… that’s how it works
I asked the parliamentarian if we could do good things instead of bad things and they told me to go fuck myself :/
