What made you choose Apple?
My first smartphone was an early LG Optimus. Don’t remember the exact model, but it was a horrible experience. When it was time to justify an upgrade, I tried an iPhone (4S I think.) It did what I need in a phone and more, and it was smooth, responsive, and reliable, unlike the LG.
Since then I’ve only used iPhones, and also an Apple TV, some HomePods, AirPods Pro, watches, and my wife uses a MacBook.
My desktop will always be Windows, but I’m increasingly tempted to try Linux. I mean, I’ll never use a Mac. It doesn’t do what I need. The other Apple devices do exactly what I need and they do it well. They’re generally a pleasure to use with only a few quirks here and there - probably no more or less than modern Android devices, maybe? I wouldn’t know. I just haven’t felt the need to switch back to Android, since everything works fine. I upgrade my phone every 4-5 years.
So I guess it’s all due to a bad first impression, thanks to LG hardware.
You should try a Mac. You’ll be surprised at how good it is.
That really depends on the person, I think. I last used mac in like 2003 until last year with my new job. I hate almost everything about it. Nothing works the way I expect it to. I love clicking on an app in the dock just to have it… not show up? It gains focus and, wherever it is, will have input if I’m typing. Same with command+tab sometimes. I also can’t switch between fullscreen windows of the same app without installing something, apparently (my coworker who uses mac at home couldn’t figure it out either). It has slowed me down and made me less productive. Work won’t let us have linux laptops for whatever reason which, as a developer, would be so much nicer.
If work let’s you run VM’s you could run Linux in a VM on your pc
I had some success with this, but ran into some issues as well that also made it annoying. The first laptop the gave me died and I lost all that progress and haven’t tried again since.
Sounds like they are giving you crap hardware. Also, the IT guy should set up the VM and make sure it works.
Also, as a dev you should INSIST that you MUST HAVE Linux available as well. You are the dev, you know what tools you need, it’s not up to the IT guy to decide what software you need
I say this as an IT Tech/Admin who was responsible for running all the IT at my company offices. I had about 350 users/PCs to administer plus servers, printers, telephone system, door entry system, switches, WiFi system etc…
If a new guy started they told me what software he would run and what spec was needed and I’d get the right pc for the job and deploy the software needed. Not tell them what to use.
I have an m3 now (I had an m1. I later found out about 3 other laptops had issues around the same time so I actually suspect something weird in remote management, but I don’t know mac well enough to assert that more). They decided that since I technically, however frustratingly and measurably more slowly, can do my work, it’s not worth the “security risk”. I still bring it up at basically every opportunity and I’m not the only one. I live in a very remote area of Japan and remote jobs are hard to come by, so, at the same time, I’m not making too much noise.
I understand. You have to do what you have to do to survive. In that case make the best of the Windows pc and do your work to their satisfaction. Making a living is more important than what OS you use.
I left Apple when I got rid of my iPhone 3 and didn’t look back until last year. In the mean time, iOS has grown up nicely, the services are really well integrated, and it’s pretty low on bugs.
Contrast to Google where every OS update to Android makes the UI more and more similar to iOS, but a shittier version of it. Their home assistant has been losing features and the overall recognition has gotten demonstrably worse as time goes on. It annoys me to no end that Android doesn’t have any native ability to resize a photo before emailing it, so you either send a 7MB photo or go through too many ridiculous steps to resize it first. That’s not even counting the services that Google kills all the time, making any investment into their ecosystem unreliable in the long term.
I’m not using Apple now because I’m loyal and like them. It’s because Google has put so much effort into making their own phone a shitty knockoff. If I’m paying premium prices for a flagship phone, might as well go with the one that works better.
This is a great point. I’ve switched between Android and iOS over the years. The past 4 years I’ve been on Android but later this year I plan to switch back to iPhone because they’ve leapt ahead again. Google has let Android languish. They don’t add user delight features anymore and what they do have is poorly implemented.
Apple is constantly adding features that people USE in real life, like Accident detection, fall detection, satellite calling, memoji, Facetime, iMessage, Find my devices, UWB shows you with an arrow on the screen exactly where your loved on is in a crowd or your airpods behind the couch etc
Apple fitness is the best out there and Watch is hands down the best fitness device. And it works great with iPhone.
There are too many things to list but the general rule of thumb is that apple adds delight and useful stuff but Google only adds things that benefit IT like circle to search. That’s just a way to get you using Google search instead of a different search engine.
When an OEM like Samsung’s One UI is better than stock android, you know you have a problem. Plus the fragmentation: something that is on my android device may not be on my wife’s or my friends, or in a different place or whatever.
Average Android users don’t know quick share exists at all. So it’s always off on their phone so if you want to quick share something it’s quicker to send it on WhatsApp than to teach them what quick share is and how to enable it… Whereas every iPhone user knows airdrop and that’s nothing to turn on.
Even the recent customisation additions Apple has made are better implemented than on Android where it’s a clunky process to add a widget, they look terrible and Devs have limited access. Even the bedtime feature where iPhone displays a clock on the screen when docked and charging is excellent for the average user. Why hasn’t Android had this year’s ago??? And still doesn’t!
Plus magsafe is genius. The incredible accessories and ease of use is fantastic.
I can’t wait to switch back to iPhone later this year!
Integration with their other products. And I’m too old to enjoy fiddling with stuff anymore.
The first time I copied something on my phone and then seamlessly pasted it on my laptop, I was pretty blown away. The integration is a major perk.
It even feels more like magic if you use the three-finger pinch to copy and paste.
But try copying from Apple to Windows
Why would I
If you already have a Windows PC and you buy an apple product.
It was a nightmare getting music on and off an iPod using windows.
It put me right off Apple.
Does android have this copy paste function on windows? (Never owned a android phone, serious question)
On android I can connect via USB and just drag the music onto the device.
I couldn’t do this when I had an iPod. I had to go through iTunes and that had to sync before I could do anything.
See that’s not what we’re talking about here. what’s cool in the apple ecosystem is I can copy something on my iPhone to the clipboard and then press cmd-v on my Mac to paste it (Or visa versa). It’s these little continuity things in the ecosystem apple haters don’t even know about I think. Another example, if I place my iPad next to my Mac I can push my mouse cursor of the screen onto the iPad, grab a file, drag it back to my Mac. Wirelessly.
I always found it really easy with iTunes
…I still find it easy with iTunes as I’m still using my iPod 18 years later
ITunes on a mac I presume.
ITunes on a PC didn’t work well over networks.
Nope, on a PC.
Never tried it over a network though, I’ve always just plugged it in to the computer where the music collection is.
Can you copy and paste from Android to Windows? How about Android to ChromeOS?
Can you copy and paste from Android to Windows?
Yes. Plugged in as MTP has never given me a problem transferring mp3s. No need to rebuild databases. Just drag and drop.
How about Android to ChromeOS?
Never tried.
CaptainEffort and I were referring to the standard copy and paste feature on all OSs, but copying on one device and wirelessly pasting it on another. It’s a very convenient piece of continuity.
Although, what you’re talking about has worked since the release of the Files app in iOS 11, seven years ago. When you connect an iPhone to Windows, it appears as a drive now. You can drag and drop any files once you authenticate.
Yes. My experience was many years ago, but it was annoying enough to put me off trying to integrate Apple with other ecosystems.
That’s fair. Apple’s been shifting away from exclusively using proprietary protocols and connectors over the last decade. Most of their remaining proprietary use is in addition to industry standard protocols and connectors now. Adding RCS support in the fall is a long-awaited adoption. They were holding out in effort to leverage GSM to adopt an encrypted RCS standard, but it didn’t happen.
You’re misunderstanding them… They’re talking about clipboard sharing between iPhone and Mac. You select some text on your phone, copy it and then you can paste that text on your Mac.
They’re not talking about copying and pasting files.
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Because they’re not Google.
I always went with Android growing up but went with Apple once I was on my own phone plan. This decision was based around getting the most software support for the cost. I found that I could buy a refurbished iphone 13 mini for roughly 300$ and still have 5 years of security updates after they stop selling the 13. That longevity for the price is hard to get with android.
Its been a few months, and honestly I’m not a fan of the UI or apple’s way of doing things, but it’s a functional phone.
Privacy, security, reliability, creative focused design, powerful hardware and software, great customer support, ease of use from GUI to Terminal (zsh and bash)
I don’t like apple. But I love to recommend them for 4 reasons:
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The hardware, even the cheapest base specs is light years better than anything from Windows or Android. I can’t tell you how many times a relative bought an Android and stopped using it because it was unresponsive after a week. Or I had to stop another from buying a Windows PC with only 4GB of RAM… in 2022.
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The fake download links are targeting Windows not Mac. Meaning that when a relative downloads their games or cousins gets a hold of their computer to download minecraft skins, their machine won’t be playing breakout on their desktop (yes this actually happened, and lived in the RAM from what I could tell)
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When the OS updates, the careful configuration I made for them doesn’t break. Why [RELATIVE] are you using Edge, when I set up Chrome for you… oh your machine updated and moved the chrome icon, and this looks close enough to IE that you clicked on it. Cool.
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I don’t have to teach them how to use Video Chats, or Web Messages, as they are baked in, won’t change after a week, and has been consistent since forever. Sure suck on my end when they ping my iPad instead of my phone, but that’s on me.
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Peer pressure, obv
Vertical integration
Security
Privacy
Competitive processors
Progressive company
Pretty ui
Vertical integration is precisely what stops me from buying apple.
Why?
Because I have invested in various non apple technologies (phones, pcs, earphones, vr headsets) which don’t play nicely with iOS
So if you’d picked differently when you started out you’d be fine with it?
Vertical integration doesn’t mean that other devices can’t play nicely with Apple devices or vise versa. The only reason they don’t is because Apple wants to be dicks.
You are correct. It’s the horizontal exclusion I dislike, not the vertical integration.
Vertical integration and progressive company are good for Apple but for the consumer they are irrelevant I think.
Security is ok, privacy must be a joke, siri is listening, just like google. You have to be logged in to install an app from the store etc…
Pretty limited ui. Some might like it, some may don’t, but they can’t change nothing.
Siri is only “listening” for a key phrase. Siri processes locally, unlike Google Assistant.
Siri learns what you need. Not who you are. What you ask Siri isn’t associated with your Apple ID. The power of the Apple Neural Engine ensures that the audio of your requests never leaves your iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, or Apple Vision Pro unless you choose to share it. On-device intelligence makes your experience with Siri personal — learning your preferences and what you might want — while maintaining your privacy. And, of course, what you share with Siri is never shared with advertisers.
One company spent years building privacy centric image, literally telling governments they cannot get into their clients’ devices; the other spent years finding new and exciting ways to serve targeted ads.
It’s also the reason why Siri was first to market and fell behind Alexa and Google Assistant so quickly. It took Apple a decade (2011-2021) to create the hashed then encrypted relay system to collect private and anonymous recorded feedback from customers who opt-in to improving Siri.
Competition just kept everything as user feedback data. I’ve read horror stories about the people who worked at Alexa recording review sites.
I got tired of Google/Android constantly removing functionality I was actively using. (I had specifically bought a Pixel 4a 5g because of certain features not available on other (non-pixel) android devices, only to have those features be removed or hidden deeper into the system with a new android update. Also the quick access buttons at the top of te notification slide suddenly being text only instead of icons thus taking up more space for much less buttons (we went from 8 to 6 to 4 directly accessible))
So I went to iOS, first with a second hand iPhone 7, which is still holding up. (unlike any of the android devices from the same year)
Which convinced me enough to pick up an iPhone 14 pro.
I already had an iPad (because android tablets were horrible) and I enjoyed the integration between iPhone and iPad.
I’ve actually also been looking at replacing my work laptop with a MacBook, but I’m not sure if that’s going to work for me.
For the moment, they are simply better than the competition in regard to LLM ambitions. I got tired of Google being incompetent and not supporting an app/service for more than a few years. Google is chasing after a viral hit app without showing they could actually maintain it for more than longer than a year, at best. Apple is stable, they have a plan to keep their main services stable and useable! I switched to an iPhone last year, it’s a stable experience, if not a bit bland at times due to a lack of serious customization elements. Since moving away from Windows and going to Ubuntu, I even plan on getting a Mac Mini to manage my iPhone (since Linux doesn’t have those tools readily available). I don’t like Apple persay because I don’t trust any corporation, in a market with little choice; I chose them for the time being. When Linux phones are ready for the general audience that is when I will jump ship.
At the time, it was video editing. I went to film school & was a post production supervisor for 15 years in LA.
Having a laptop I could edit on & just knowing how to use Final Cut, gave me a major leg up starting my career.
I knew more about nonlinear editing than most of the post staff as a production assistant, because Avid made it too cost prohibitive for prosumers & students with their proprietary hardware.
Then Apple pooped out FCPX & gave Avid/Adobe the market back.
Still stuck with Apple though, just really fell into the environment & have been able to keep everything moving rather seamlessly.
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I never really liked them growing up, but in recent years there have been some really good varieties popping up. Cosmic Crisp, Sugarbee, Kanzi.
