• @[email protected]
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    Stage 2:

    Documents folder? You want to rule my whole computer, dictate some nonsensical folder structure and then you act like, out of the goodness of your heart, I can have this little set of folders, deep in your weird structure, to store my stuff? And you’re even telling me how to sort it? On my own hard drive connected to my own computer?

    • @[email protected]
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      And then at some point, games started saving inside documents. Ok, it makes sense to have game save files in a user area instead of a subfolder in the game install area, but they aren’t documents. Just make a new game saves folder or something like that, don’t just stick all my game save files in the same area, cluttering up my own organization.

      Though I did solve it kinda by just making a new documents subfolder in my documents where I put my actual documents.

      • @[email protected]
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        51 year ago

        “%userprofile%\Saved Games” exists, but most games that i’ve seen don’t use it by default, or even can’t use it due to its own shortcomings.

        • @[email protected]
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          Yeah, ultimately the issue is probably more about an attempt to go from a completely unmanaged file system where it was just big free for all with the hope everyone would behave nicely to a more managed design that still needed to maintain backwards compatibility with the old system where there were a slew of programs that depended on a bunch of undocumented behavior.

    • @[email protected]
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      I unironically do this. There was one update that wiped one guy’s Documents/Downloads/Images/Videos. So I made my own and store my things there.

    • @[email protected]OP
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      “Yeah but what if someone wants to store their files in Onedrive?”

      “Well, Bobby. We ask them politely but firmly to leave.”

  • @[email protected]
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    If you save it on your computer instead of on their servers, how could they possibly be expected to analyze your data? Come on now, be reasonable!

      • Sabata
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        Won’t somebody please think of the starving shareholders.

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      That’s why they created recent controversy with ai analysing your whole data, another reason to switch to Linux

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          But analyzed data still get sent to them, so yeah

          • @[email protected]
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            Maybe I’m out of the loop, but afaik they always said that none of the data would ever leave the device.

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              Check privacy settings, they sent usage data before, what stopping them now

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                There’s a massive difference between what “usage data” refers to in this context and the kind of data stored and analyzed by Recall locally.

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                  That’s the part that makes everybody nervous though. Everything from the global dragnet surveillance network to the marketing company behind your grocery store app is most interested in “metadata.”

                  Companies like Microsoft will loudly say they don’t want your cat pictures and memes and college papers, they’re not tying your usage to an explicit file with your name and favorite pasta varieties…

                  …BUT that forced transmission of “anonymous user data”, could potentially be super effective in identifying and manipulating you. With enough of it, you can easily put together a profile of an individual.

                  Heck, for a while, TOR would advise against resizing your brower window because the window size in pixels could potentially help fingerprint you on the web. How nuts is that?!

                  Most people actually worried about a spook digging through "\videos\Homework\" are indeed paranoid.

                  But there’s been a lot of research at what can be done even if you’re just “userID 1284hdkfuw724bfiueb”

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                  Sure but it still requires trusting them when they pinky promise they won’t send any recall data. Fuck them tbh. It just makes me feel even more right about my decision to switch to Linux years ago.

      • @[email protected]
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        God now its not only word “windows” summoning the linux bros but the words “AI” as well?

  • @[email protected]
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    you can completely disable all the bullshit in windows including recall, copilot, onedrive and many more things with O&O shutup10++ and also DoNotSpy11

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      Good luck troubleshooting problems when an update of Windows breaks something.

      Just switch to Linux and call it a day.

    • @[email protected]
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      Those programs are even named like malware.

      Jesus Christ, the need to use another opaque binary that has a non-zero chance of being hijacked to get rid of shit that should never be there sounds like the definition of insanity.

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      That’s like saying “we can cover this switch on the wall that will blow up your house so you can’t flip it.” I would feel better if the switch wasn’t even there. And now I’m wondering what other switches exist in my house that I don’t know about. The trust has already been shattered and I’ll never feel safe.

  • @[email protected]
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    Insert “use Linux” joke. But I’m absolutely serious when I say that using my company’s M365 stuff using the web versions in Firefox on Linux is pretty pleasant.

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    I once helped a person with their computer. They complained the they cant save the their photos. Well, their onedrive was filled to brim with crap, while the local 1Tb disk was empty because they had zero idea how storage and folders work. I had to explain her there is literally 1000x more fast disk space available, so please dont save into onedrive.

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      It’s not really her fault. Microsoft pushes people to use their onedrive and pay for a subscription even when people have no clue what it is or what it does. Microsoft is just insanely anti-consumer.

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        This and many others are reasons a switch to Linux has been so joyful. No more Windows trying to guilt me, nag me, push me, trick me, abuse me to use shit the way they want. It’s so much more…quiet.

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          For me, it just works, it does what I want it to, and it’s not selling my info. A year and half now after leaving windows and I love it. Peaceful

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          With Linux I have ownership over my computer and control of the software. I couldn’t use anything else.

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      That’s great unless that person’s files get corrupted/deleted or hard drive fails. Then having backups in the cloud or at least ona a device on a local network is a good idea.

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        In that case it would still be better to save locally and make regular encrypted backups to the clouds than to save everything to the cloud

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      Had to explain that to my nephew. He couldn’t save anything because iCloud was full. His Mac had like 300gigs available, but he couldn’t save anything…

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      I dont blame her tbh. I have onedrive completely disabled on my personal pc, but on my work laptop Windows defaults everything to onedrive and names the onedrive folders identically to your local ones.

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        Naming different things identically is a thing Microsoft loves to do. I still keep opening Teams or Teams instead of Teams. And I think there are at least three things on my PC called Copilot, and they haven’t even released Copilot yet.

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    I want to save to onedrive. So I can create it from my desktop, modify it from my laptop next week when I’m out of town, and send a link to it to the printer shop that’s gonna print me some copies. Why are you like this?

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      Hey, no one is trying to stop you from doing that. I’m sure it is very convenient for you.

      My point of view though is that automatically uploading my personal files to some corporation computer on the other side of the world should not be the default when I try to save something. Maybe sometimes I’ll want to use that feature, but there are a variety of reasons why I don’t want it most of the time. And I definitely don’t like having to jump through hoops just to avoid it.

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      We used to do this with thumb drives. You can get a 128G usb3 thumb drive these days for like 20 bucks in the checkout line of most electronics stores. Cool things about a thumb* drive is I don’t need to pay a subscription fee for it, it doesn’t need an Internet connection, and it isn’t liable to be rifled through by Microsoft unless Bill Gates comes to your house and steals it from you.

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        And they force you to use it if you want autosave, which is essential in a work environment given the stability of MS Office programs (or at least my ability to crash Excel).

  • @[email protected]
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    And I also don’t want programs to throw all their crap in the documents folder. AppData is made for that.

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        And now show hidden files and you see the plethora of applications that dump everything in your homedir instead of .config

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            That annoys the fuck out of me. I want the folders I put in /home, not your shit. Put it in /.local or something and fuck off.

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              I believe the folder you are attempting to refer to is for all users so you probably do want to have the config in ~/.config unless you want everyone to have the same. Also /home is the directory that includes all users respective ~/ directories so use ~/ when referring to your own home directory.

              Edit I can’t figure out the formatting. My client is showing <sub> where ~ should be.

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            yup…

            .hidden file became my best friend - and a little context menu script for dolphin to easily add a file / folder to that .hidden is a thing i use way too often tbh

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          No matter the environment, it is important to dump shit wherever so the user does not get complacent.

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      SO MUCH. Now my standard procedure is to just make a “_My_Documents” folder within Documents, so I can know where the files are that I put there myself.

      (Leading underscore pops it to the top of the list alphabetically)

      I remember some Windows versions had a Games folder for all that, saved games, etc…but it seems very few games actually decided to use it lol.

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    remember kids when onedrive folders are set to “available on this pc” it does both

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      Except I don’t want it in a OneDrive folder, I want it in My Docs. Which you now have to browse for every fucking time.

      Well, I don’t, because I reconfigured that shit.

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        I’m filing this under the new style login pages after inputting your email address:

        “Do you want to log in using password, passkey, email confirmation?”