Didn’t french minister Robbespierre say and act same in french revolution aera? Before he was executed by his own people.
“Stunning”? As in “actually surprising anyone”? Well, I am not the least surprised.
So what?
At this point, anyone who’s a Trump supporter secretly (or quite vocally) agrees with the policy of executions.
Not stunning to anyone who’s paid attention. So I bet there’s lots of people who are deeply shocked by this.
Yeah, this revelation didn’t get so much as a raised eyebrow from me.
That assumes they are paying attention to this.
That’s the joke 😉
No. It is not.
Yeah… it’s a joke that makes me sad though.
Morose humor is simply a way to deal with tragedy and sadness. It’s often the most we can do for ourselves or anyone else in such situations. Seeing as in this situation especially it would require to impress upon people the importance of Being educated in general and about specific things that they have no interest in. Both of which are generally out of our control. So we all just default to recognizing the absurdity.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not faulting you or anything… it’s both absurd and sad that major alarm bells have been going off about Trump for a very long time and a lot of people don’t notice or look the other way.
Better to laugh than cry I guess.
I didn’t think you were :-) and unfortunately Trump is just the most recent symptom. It’s been going on for longer than even my parents have been alive. And they were born in the late 40s and early 50s. At least here in the US.
Grandpappy Bush was tied to a coup in the 30s
Stunning they finally said of out loud. Of course they wait until they got a TV appearance vs, you know, calling it out at the time.
But boThSiDesSamE?
According to losing leftists at the polls
Kaitlan Collins, to her credit, interviewed Bill Barr and asked about an anecdote that I had shared about a meeting he and I were both in the Oval Office, where Trump straight up said a staffer who leaked a story should be executed. And Bill Barr kind of danced it and said I don’t recall that specific instance, but there were others where we talked about executing people. How do you rationalize that is a person fit in sound judgment to be president of the United States?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Abdulrahman_al-Awlaki
What a president can do to the least of us they will do to the rest of us.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Killing_of_Nawar_al-Awlaki&diffonly=true
Remember this 8 year old girl who was killed?
Who was with his terrorist father in Yemen at the time. This isn’t exactly murder most foul.
Because his dad was part of al qaeda the kid deserved to die? That’s totally not fucked up at all
It’s not about deserving it. His dad took him to a war zone while he was working for a non state military. Not everything is personal or even about the person who gets killed in a warzone. Soldiers call it rolling the dice for a reason. The bomb on the roadside goes off. Does it hit the humvee with the gun crew, or the cargo truck carrying refugees? Nobody knows until it happens. One is seen as a normal part of war and the other as something despicable. But the difference is less than a second. Nobody woke up that day and said, “today we’re going to kill that kid”.
You don’t think the US military has the capabilities to know exactly who and what they’re striking?
Not like that. Satellites still can’t see inside of hard cover. Hollywood really oversells how much the military can see and undersells how much explosions hurt.
He was a US citizen.
The military should not be drone striking its own citizens, no matter what they’re suspected of. He had the right to a trial.
Actually, joining an enemy military strips you of your citizenship. But even then, it’s not a stable area. You can’t just ring up the Yemeni police to go arrest them and the NYPD is going to laugh at you. So you call on the guys who can reach the area. Problem, they’re the military and this is a war. So even without the first sentence we’re back to using a missile instead of the police because nobody is going to commit suicide for this and we’re not going to let them operate freely on the notion that we’re not allowed to fight that particular enemy.
Which is why joining an enemy military is an automatic loss of citizenship.
When did Al-Qaeda become a military? It’s a terrorist organization.
And when did it become a war. Congress hasn’t declared a war since World War 2. Legally, all of killing in the Middle East has been done under the guise of military policing actions.
Are we going to drone strike proud boy leaders now? They did try to overthrow the US government a few years ago. Oh wait, they just got slaps on the wrist.
So do we only blow up US citizens and deny them their rights when it would be difficult to get them? I guess the FBI can stop spending so much money on training agents to apprehend suspects, if they’re running or have already fled the country, we’ll just assassinate them because that’s way easier and safer.
The fact that this guy, regardless of what he did, was assassinated on the orders of a US president, and nothing happened, should be deeply disturbing. You don’t have rights if someone can just blow you up from out of nowhere for any reason. You just have privileges that can be revoked at any time.
He had the right to a trial. Not a privilege to have one, a right. An attempt to apprehend him should have at least been made.
Nobody said you had to be connected to a geographic state to be a military.
An AUMF is a declaration of war. Read the War Powers Act. The Constitution gives Congress the power to declare war. It does not require Congress to use a set of magic words.
The proud boys are fucking infants in comparison to Al Qaeda, they’re also well within reach of law enforcement agents. But if you want to know for real, check out the times governors have deployed the National Guard for an armed stand off. There is absolutely a military remedy to a domestic insurrection in US law. We do try to avoid that but if someone really pushed it they would take the leash off the military.
This is also a far cry from FBI agents working with police in developing countries. This isn’t trying to figure out which Argentinian cop would tip off the arrest target. This is the Yemeni militia laughing at the FBI agents while letting AQ know there are Americans around to be captured.
Again. Nobody is going to commit suicide to provide you with a trial if you are actively making war against the US. Nor have they ever been required to because that is an insane imposition to the defense of the country. Reducing this to a manhunt ended for the sake of convenience is a straw man. You’d have a point if this happened somewhere like India. But it didn’t. And we’re under no obligation to let the enemy keep operating on the hope they travel to the wrong country.
Who was with his terrorist father in Yemen at the time
According to the United States government, Abdulrahman al-Awlaki’s father, Anwar al-Awlaki, was a leader of al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.[2] Anwar al-Awlaki was killed by a CIA drone strike several days before his son’s death.[3]
You could try not being disingenuous and read a couple more sentences.
the target of the October 14, 2011, airstrike was Ibrahim al-Banna, an Egyptian believed to be a senior operative in al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.[7] Another U.S. administration official speaking on condition of anonymity described Abdulrahman al-Awlaki as a bystander who was “in the wrong place at the wrong time”, stating that “the U.S. government did not know that Mr. Awlaki’s son was there” before the airstrike was ordered.[
He was there because his father brought him there. Nobody was aiming for him.
You could try not being disingenuous
Right back atcha.
What you said:
Who was with his terrorist father in Yemen at the time
Which is blatantly untrue
Oh for shit’s sake taking refuge in semantics when you know damn well the word could mean either thing is ridiculous. I’m not going to waste ten comments explaining the exact meaning of the word “time” in this specific case while you just keep throwing No True Scotsman at it.
the word could mean either thing
it can literally only mean the one thing. His father had been dead for days, you claimed otherwise as thought it justified what happened.
No True Scotsman at it.
Showing how intelligent you are with random fallacy name dropping.
Lmao. No.
At some point all of these MAGA people will have to be stopped permanently or another country will invade us and punish us for doing nothing to stop them but voting and crying online.
Why would anyone invade when our enemies could continue watching us rot from the inside?
Divide and conquer
A ground war in the US would be over before it begins. Infiltrating via the internet and collapsing the social fabric, on the other hand, is a very viable strategy that we’re watching right before our eyes :D
Cause we like you actually?
I mean not the self inflicting pain but the rest.
Wow im so stunned
Trumpets: as long as it’s the right people, we love it.
She sat in the same room and did nothing. Now enjoying playing the other side as a political commentator on CNN. Just sayin.
Why is it that those who are most vocal about being American don’t understand what that means?
Because idiots think they’re better than everyone.
There’s a name for that.
Ex Trump official confirms what we all assumed …
FTFY
I would have been astonished if he hadn’t. I figured he’s the typical old white Republican where the answer to every irritant is to kill it.
So stunning. I’ve clutched my pearls so hard they’ve… turned into better pearls? Wait that’s diamonds. Dammit.
They turned into diamonds!
