Also who’s your pick for winner of the arbitrary 4-way american civil war? Personally I’m hoping for the West, but I’m worried Northeast might sneak victory in when nobody’s looking

  • ThomasMuentzner [he/him, comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    midwest is expected to be expansionist as it needs to secure its in / export routes by taking New Orleans and securing the St Lorance river? (warm water ports)

  • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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    181 year ago

    Well with the west and the south splitting most of the nuke supply and the Midwest being capable of thriving in nuclear winter, it’s really anyone’s game. The northeast is no longer the manufactory hub it once was. Ultimately though, I think the west is set up to take home the victory with critical support and materials from China. Can’t really get that anywhere else too readily.

  • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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    321 year ago

    Midwest

    Under that veil of Minnesota nice beats the heart of some of the most vicious and demonic creatures known to God

  • whoever could maintain a blockade of the others ports probably.

    if I were running one of the breakaway nations, I would try to form a coalition with another one over mutual disdain for texas. decapitate it’s leadership, demobilize it’s law enforcement, and create a colony on it with displaced people from other areas. heavily arm them and direct them to land / resource / infrastructure grab everything.

    with any luck, everybody will be so focused on that shit show, they won’t notice that I have used all the gold to build a giant Colossus of myself that shoots flames and lightning bolts.

    checkmate.

    • Chronicon [they/them]
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      141 year ago

      whoever could maintain a blockade of the others ports probably.

      the fate of the midwest rests on whether canada can help us keep the st lawrence seaway open

      The mississippi is a lost cause pretty much

  • Could see likely a coalition of the NE, which should probably include Maryland, Delaware, and DC, plus Midwest and West Coast minus the plains and mountain states. They’d then mop the floor.

  • RION [she/her]
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    101 year ago

    our enemies will crumble under the might of Papa Khan Pritzker and the midwestern horde

  • Lenins_Cat_Reincarnated [he/him]
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    151 year ago

    Americans please explain to me why the midwest is called the midwest. It’s kinda in the middle, but it’s really not the west?? Why not call it the midnorth? Or northern mid?

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    This breakup’s a little more interesting than most.

    The Northeast will come out of this with a powerful Navy - but without DC and an Army to back them up I can’t see them accomplishing much. But since their power is in financial institutions, is it really worth conquering them? Just let them slowly collapse like the UK.

    The South has the bulk of the Army, a decent Navy, and all of the Natsec ghouls. I can see a Texas oil-powered military quickly establishing dominance - this 'aint the 1800s anymore, all of America has been de-industrialized, so the weakness that the South had in the Civil War doesn’t really apply. But they would probably rather turn south and hit Mexico than tangle with the West unless their hubris is up - more on that in a moment.

    The Midwest would probably become more like Canada in this scenario than Russia. They have enough manufacturing to not go down easy but I just don’t see them sustaining a long war like Russia can - but the question is would conquering them be worth it when holding them would be so hard. I think the other successor states would rather just buy beer from them and leave them be.

    The West ends up with most of the money, a powerful Navy, and a decent Army, so I think they’re OP in this scenario. If they get put on their back foot by war they can fall back to the Rockies and defend until the end of time, which isn’t an option that the South has because the Appalachians don’t protect their most important states. Plus they get Alaskan oil and presumably control of America’s Pacific sphere of influence? No contest tbh the West wins the only question is whether or not San Francisco has the stomach for war.

    edit: oh yeah and it looks like everyone’s got nukes except the Northeast lmao but I wouldn’t want to bet my life on deterrence continuing to function.

  • Beetle_O_Rourke [she/her, comrade/them]
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    191 year ago

    NE and West would be the only real contenders as a matter of economic power.

    My bet is NE because they would be able to bribe or coerce the midwest into sharing Great lakes water, at which point the clock on the West running out of potable water would be the driving factor behind their surrender.

    • liberaldeathsquads [they/them]
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      61 year ago

      West>south>midwest>northeast

      West is obviously strongest but northeast is literally the smallest in land and population. None of these regions would lack in water, just bad policies, bad infrastructure, them not sharing water wouldn’t even be a factor. There are places on earth where wars have been fought over water, America probably won’t be one of them unless we are talking tens of thousands of years into the future and by then water probably won’t be the biggest concern climate change wise.

      • Dolores [love/loves]
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        81 year ago

        America probably won’t be one of them unless we are talking tens of thousands of years into the future and by then water probably won’t be the biggest concern climate change wise

        read cadillac desert lol (but i don’t think western water would be a deciding factor in <decade long war)