I thought that during the 2020-2024 interim the Democrats were supposed to be building someone up for the next generation of the party. To no one’s surprise, they’ve been doing exactly fuck-all for four years - but, for insiders who actually care about the party’s future, who are they hanging their hat on? Voters’ confidence in Kamala has tanked; Cuomo was maybe their man until the sexual harassment charges hit (side question: how was he able to skate on the nursing home scandal?). But anyway, who’s the next empty neoliberal they’ll run in future elections?

  • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]English
    16•10 months ago

    They’re going to pick some aide or state assembly person (or a couple) to give a speech at the DNC this year and try to recreate an Obama 2004 moment

  • @[email protected]English
    12•10 months ago

    I don’t really pay attention to politics, but I thought the smart play would’ve been backing one Mr. Psychedelic Warlord, but at this point I think that ship has sailed.

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]English
      18•10 months ago

      Yeah Beto has also been vocally anti-Israel lately as well, but he’s also not had any hope of a legitimate political career lately. That can’t be making him friends with Democrats. He kept losing every race he was involved in, so the donors dried up.

      Also in the 2020 primary there were so many candidates he had to pigeon-hole himself to one particular issue to be notable, he tried being the anti-gun guy. He did the thing Democrats aren’t supposed to do which is confirm what Republicans think of them. Democrats are usually more submissive and conciliatory to Republicans. When accused of being anti-gun Democrats are supposed to be like “oh well uh, well, yeah you’re right mr. republican we should still protect the blah blah.” Instead Beto was outright saying “yeah we are coming for your guns, no one needs an assault rifle” and that probably didn’t make him friends among the rich donor class who actually control everything

      They went with Biden because they simply don’t have anyone left

  • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]English
    43•10 months ago

    there is no one “after biden”. all hope is hung on this man, the most progressive force in american politics since Franklin Delveccio Roosevelt. or is he the most imperialist, racist force in american politics since Theodore Roosevelt? i can’t remember, but facts don’t matter. what matters is that this is the last election america will ever have, because if Trump wins it’s all over. for everyone. Trump will launch the space nukes to every corner of the galaxy and destroy everything that could have ever been imagined over an infinite timeline. including God. Trump will kill God. and most importantly, brunch. so press 30330 to give $3 to Team Biden and don’t forget you can win big at goldenpalacecasino.com

    so vote

    ps - i have no idea. in 2016, hedges said in some interview that the Democratic party would rally around the conservative candidate and use the corrupt party mechanisms to kill the youthful, engaged energy around Sanders, the closest thing it had to an insurgent populist movement. this backroom dealing would lead to a profound disillusionment among many of the politically-engaged people who would have made up the future base of the party. the loss of this bloc would create a fatal wound in the party itself.

    i think that’s what we’re seeing. the party is a corpse that is twitching on the slab and no amount of threatening, scolding, pomp, or pageantry seems capable of making young people give a shit. no one wants to be a labor-oriented, populist reform candidate, because the party bosses have shown they will scorch the earth to cut them down, so all we get are people in thrall to capital formations selected by the weird focus group/consultant-driven court intrigue of party elites and major donors. and those people don’t want to put up names until there’s a good chance of Return on Investment. so its just going to be one brushed and polished coward after another, pulled from a hat at the last minute and dumped on a saddle in the horse race. name TBD.

      • IzyaKatzmann [he/him]English
        2•10 months ago

        nah we’d get filtered out of the data as anomolies, not enough time or reason to try to make major deviations in experimental data make sense

  • Dolores [love/loves]English
    49•10 months ago

    its fukin Newsom, cmon, all the ghoul of Biden in a new sexy body. i’d say he had a good chance this cycle but he’s a good dog waiting his turn

    • BoxedFenders [any, comrade/them]English
      19•10 months ago

      Yep, he’s exceptionally disciplined at toeing the party line and prioritizing the Democratic machine over his own immediate wishes. They will reward his patience handsomely when it is His Turn.

      • Dolores [love/loves]English
        21•10 months ago

        i really have got a sense that “their turn” is legitimately a driving principle in the party, either at Obama or Bernie the party got together and reorganized to prevent an upstart who didnt do their time from ever touching power again.

        anyone else, even Bernie would tow the important political lines. the loyalty to Biden is about this turns bullshit

  • HarryLime [any]English
    17•10 months ago

    I mean, if I were in some kind of monkey’s paw situation where I was put in charge of the democrats but I had to ignore my ideology and just put in someone who could win, there are actually a couple of really solid electoral options. The upper midwestern states that Trump won in 2016 have popular democratic governors, notably Gretchen Whitmer in Michigan and Josh Shapiro in Pennsylvania. Shapiro even got some good press for handling a bridge collapse really competently. Other than that, Raphael Warnock is a Georgia senator who’s won multiple tough re-election campaigns despite being dragged down by that moronic grifter Stacy Abrams. Mark Kelly is a senator from Arizona who’s a former astronaut and won a tough re-election.

    The thing about this moment is that it should be really easy for mainstream democratic party liberals to just sweep the whole country and ride to the White House because of Dobbs/Trump being incredibly unpopular/Republicans being loathsome and unappealing and getting more unappealing all the time. The problem for them is squarely on Biden.

  • RyanGosling [none/use name]English
    27•10 months ago

    That fact that you’re asking means you’re a Russian shill. We don’t speak of anyone EXCEPT Biden. He will be president. That’s all that matters. Stop talking about long term plans because there is a cheeto about to be put into a prison cell.