I follow this person on Twitter, and I’m sure she means this literally, and I’m OK with it.
Just confirm they are a Russian White (not to be confused with a White Russian, ick!) person.
My girlfriend is White but thanks to Russian culture she is house trained.
Shoes off inside (and whether barefoot or socks/slippers is acceptable) varies widely by culture and time period.
Plenty of White people don’t wear shoes in the house and conversely plenty of people outside countries who wear shoes in the home.
I don’t wear shoes in the house but I don’t think there’s much validity around cleanliness unless you’ve got a shower by the front door and are doing a full wash and change (and even then, I’m not convinced this would make a positive difference in most scenarios)
I did have a friend growing up whose family would literally walk dog shit inside the house - maybe this is what people are thinking of? Surely even more of a reason to leave your shoes on there
I don’t wear shoes in the house but I don’t think there’s much validity around cleanliness
uhhhh
you definitely track in dirt and dust and whatever’s on the ground outside (snow, broken glass, dog shit, road salt,), if you wear the same shoes outside and in.
It doesn’t necessarily make the person dirtier but it definitely makes the house dirtier IMO. Not by like, a ton, if you clean regularly its probably fine esp if you don’t have carpet, but I still am not a huge fan. The “tracking in bits of broken glass” thing actually happened to me recently. Bunch of car break-ins on my street and a few days later I start finding pieces on the ground in my apartment.
I am fortunate enough to not have to deal with snow, broken glass, dog shit, road salt etc. I was pretty shocked at how dirty some cities were when I went to the US.
I do a full change when coming back from walks (~ hikes ~) because I have indoor cats and who knows what I’d be tracking in.
I also have a Chinese robo vac/mop that gets heavy usage because the cats like to drag their food outside their bowels and leave bits of crusty meat on the hardwood floors.
The worst part is my city is pretty clean for the US lol. But yeah snow is just unavoidable if the climate is right for it, everything’s getting a bit wet at least. (unless you are a bougie MFer with indoor parking and snow removal service and basically go from house to car to office without stepping foot outside, which some people do.)
And besides a few times a year to clear grime and rotten leaves and dirt and keep the storm drains flowing, the streets don’t really get actively cleaned here except by random passers by, so those accumulate some level of things like broken glass, bits of trash, etc. Dog poop is not a common problem for me, but for people who have dogs and aren’t perfect at cleaning up their yards after them its much more common.
I don’t know what level of street cleaning other countries have, or whether they just have a more conscientious populace, but yeah parts of the US are filthy
I live pretty centrally so these workers are out every morning at around 4-5am
Suburbia gets cleaned every few weeks, but increasingly less with budget cuts
I am a bougie motherfucker but to the extent that I can walk to work
we get a bit of stuff like that in the central business district, but its more like low wage workers going out and picking up trash than a full sweeping of streets/sidewalks. outside downtown its what I mentioned before. to some extent its because of low density, but also just public services are a joke in the US.
I don’t wear shoes in the house but I don’t think there’s much validity around cleanliness unless you’ve got a shower by the front door and are doing a full wash and change (and even then, I’m not convinced this would make a positive difference in most scenarios)
Mud and stones very easily get stuck to shoes, and tracking in water is a dick move too.
When it rains here I’m pouring out my shoes
Surely if your shoes are wet or muddy you take them off before you go in? That goes beyond “always take off your shoes” surely
Most places around me have a mat and shoe rack at the entrance.
It’s always wet and muddy as well, so it might as well be the same as “always take off your shoes”
What if I don’t wear shoes in the house but also don’t wear shoes outside?
as someone who has frequently done it out of laziness, I can tell you, it hurts as fuck
When they wear shoes indoors, do amerikkkans put on their socks and shoes before they step out of bed?
In my childhood, my white family took our shoes off and put them in the closet. We walked around in socks all day.
Having enough Asian and neat flat mates got me in the habit of going barefoot or having special in-house slippers (for cold days).
I was for sure “barefoot in home all day” camp growing up, but I’m in “socks” camp now that we have a bunch of cats hahaha
Not that I live in the S’Shah anyways, but whenever I’ve been there, I’ve always taken off my shoes just by the door, as does anyone else, and this goes for Norway as well. Putting them in a closet rather than under the coats and jackets and stuff sounds strange to me.
What really gets me about Seppo houses is the doorknobs, though. And also the beds. And the asbestos.
What really gets me about Seppo houses is the doorknobs, though.
yeah what’s the deal with the little globe door handles that give you no leverage and you have to awkwardly twist your wrist to open the door? and what’s the deal with the useles little clicky lock thing in the middle? what smart brain designed this bullshit and what lobbyist paid off their whole nation to get them installed everywhere?
They’re actually against code in a lot of places these days specifically because they’re hard to grip and turn for anyone with reduced grip strength, and a pain to open with occupied hands
If a house has them they can stay, but for renovations or new builds a lot of people are going with regular paddle style door handles
their windows are also dogshit. i have no idea what went wrong. i blame anglo culture.
They look nice and they’re not that inconvenient. Also, they’re more difficult to catch clothes or elbows on.
Ya, as an adult, I just kick them off next to the door, as does my partner. Friends who visit just do this without having to be asked, so it seems normal.
Putting them in a closet rather than under the coats and jackets and stuff sounds strange to me.
I’m not well traveled but in the US, at least the part I’m from, they usually are under the coats… in the coat closet, of which there is usually one by the front door in single family houses
when I was little I always imagined white pipo wearing their shoes in bed because tv shows would depict it
I still do tbh, it’s hard to scrub the image
I don’t know anybodynwhobwears shoes in the house. I guess Mr. Rogers did, but he had specific shoes he only used in the house.
He wasn’t showing the carpet gripper for free. You had to hit his premium for that one.
I am from Appalachia, and never did we ever wear our shoes inside. I often go around the house in socks, though.
mountains make you nonwhite
europe is a floodplain
Switzerland?
it’s like saying Mexico is rich bc that one billionaire guy
Hungary? Slovenia? Most of Italy? Greece? Spain? Norway and Sweden? There are a lot of mountains in Europe.
those are pebbles my guy
Has she never met a Canadian?
WE DO its disgusting… I swear sometimes I take my shoes off and find another pair of shoes under them… and a bowl of unseasoned egg salad in my hand… whiteness is a disease
If I take my shoes off my feet will get dirty from all the dirt I tracked in by wearing my shoes
Liberals destroyed with facts and logic once again.House shoes/slippers.
That was really really good.
As a middle aged man, I almost wish the girls were a little less sexually drawn, as I think I’d enjoy the anime for just the comedy.
I’m confused. The one in red is the teacher, and the one in blue, the student, has only her head and forearms exposed and isn’t particularly chesty or curvy.
I’ve seen a few clips of this show in YouTube. It looks hilarious. But some of the scenes portray girls in very short skirts or with quite protruding chests. It’s definitely not as bad as a lot of animes. It’s just that I’m in my mid 40s, and I teach older girls, I just really can’t find any of it pleasant.
I want to stress that I’m not bothered by anyone who enjoys the show. It’s just me.
I for some reason assumed this comment chain was about Nichijou. Then Yotsuba&. And now finally I see it’s Azumanga daioh. I’m not very bright today.
maybe try one of the two former if you haven’t seen them, the humor is seemingly kinda similar (yotsuba& is related to azumanga daioh iirc, spin off or smth) and iirc they’re less sexualized than that one.
I get the argument that always putting younger girl characters in skirts is just like, reflecting reality, that’s a common uniform, so that shows up even in very nonsexual shows sometimes, but a legit reason I don’t watch a lot of anime anymore is because of the way so many go out of their way to draw the fucking underage characters bending over in tiny skirts and such. Its fucking foul. They could portray a realistic skirt length and not be a fucking pervert about it, even if it maybe seems a little short to a foreign audience, but they mostly just don’t. Not that american TV is amazing about that sort of thing but its not as pervasive.
Yotsuba& is only a manga. Its relation to Azumanga Daioh is just that it shares an author, Kiyohiko Azuma. The two mangas might take place in the same universe but that’s just fan theories. There’s a few uncomfortable scenes in Yotsuba& with Fuuka, involving Jumbo, from what I’ve read so far (~1.5 volumes)
Nichijou doesn’t have anything uncomfortable that I can remember.
To me the style always seemed less sexualized and more “the animators don’t know how to a booby”
if you look up the manga/DVD covers there’s definitely some sexualization going on. but I haven’t seen the show so idk if that extends too much to the actual content.
Well, how do you count “too much”?
yeah, I mean its not like a moral condemnation exactly, just that as an adult I’m not interested in sexualized high schoolers and am uncomfortable with the extent to which they are used to market to adult men. The cover being a character in just a swimsuit or with her skirt blowing up is at least a bit questionable. Honestly devoid of context maybe I wouldn’t take as much issue, but I know how skeevy or worse outright pedophilic anime and manga sometimes are, so I have a hard time giving the benefit of the doubt when I see anything questionable. I definitely didn’t get the vibe that ““the animators don’t know how to [draw] a booby””
Really the only thing that I personally find offensive in Azumanga Daioh is this widely reviled recurring character called Mr. Kimura, who “became a teacher because he likes high school girls”. He appears in episodes 1, 4, 6, 7, 10-17, 20, 21, 23, and 26, I think in most of these episodes exactly once — but obviously with a character description like that, even a very brief appearance would leave a bad taste in my mouth. Kimura also briefly appears in the intro — the intro is incidentally also where that “skirt getting blown up” picture is from, that’s actually the character getting launched into the air and falling.
Nevertheless, Azumanga Daioh is rated G~PG in most jurisdictions around the world. I’ve watched the show cap-a-pie with my boomer mom, a bit with my brother, and my mom even wanted to show Azumanga Daioh to an even older relative of ours, too. So Azumanga Daioh is, like the planet Earth, mostly harmless. I have sometimes thought about torrenting Azumanga Daioh just to give Mr. Kimura the ol’
treatment, because without him, the worst the show gets is just a few eyeroll moments or maybe specific triggers for some people. You can check IMDb’s parents’ guide or DoesTheDogDie for more information.By the way, the “manga cover” I think you’re referring to is actually the cover of Dengeki Daioh magazine’s August 2001 issue. Probably specifically the picture used at the top of the Wikipedia article for “Dengeki Daioh”. So while it is plenty gross that that is in fact official artwork, it is not actually one of the manga covers. Those covers look like so (from eBay):
Edit: removed a gif in case it’s an epilepsy trigger
Azumanga is NOT the show that comes to mind when I think of “sexualized characters” hahaha
This scene isn’t really a good example of that, Yukari-sensei is the teacher here. However some parts of the show are definitely weird that way, nowhere to the point of other shows fortunately.
i remember watching American Dad a couple years ago, and there was this was this episode about how francine’s adoptive parents were Chinese. and one of the running jokes of the episode was the mom going around telling everyone to take their shoes off indoors? and this was supposed to be seen as weird?
‘the ick’ seems to just mean ‘neurodivergent person did something neurodivergent’ when i see it used colloquially tbh
This is often the case sadly
It’s wild how often people get away with essentially saying “you disgust me and I find you very sexually unappealing” completely unprompted.
Thank you for putting into words why I don’t like the phrase.
There’s a woman in my city who’s made wearing shoes indoors her whole identity (she even changed her Twitter username about it). Such a weird concept to me…
President of white American culture
it’s white resistance
like when they pretend that washing chicken under tap water is going to kill them. it’s the principle of the thing
or maybe they immune systems really that bad idk
What is this about washing chicken under tap water? They think it’ll make them sick or something?
- fresh chicken doesn’t need to be washed
- 99% of chicken bought at stores isn’t fresh, and has a layer of slime on it
- many people (mostly non-white) choose to wash chicken because of this
- white people think they will get sick from the raw chicken sprayback (but not the sprayback of literally every other dirty thing they wash)
I stopped wearing shoes in the house after going over to a Japanese professor of mine’s house who made us go shoeless (Japanese as in ethnically Japanese, not that they taught Japanese). I was like, oh this makes sense, and I’ve been doing it ever since.
not tryna be the saviour of the white race here but no one in britain wears shoes inside
Such strange behaviour. Shoes off or get the fuck out of my house.
I’m Australian, also generally the case here. I think it’s an American and Canadian thing.
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It would quickly be a catastrophe anywhere where it snows in winter.
yeah. I see people do it in the summer (and lightly judge them for it) but it just straight up doesn’t work in winter
I’m surprised more public facilities (schools, offices, etc) don’t have facilities to change into more indoor appropriate footwear though. Nobody wants to clean salty slush off their floors every day at home by tracking that in but we do it every day in public and just let the janitors deal?
