It’s a tale as old as time of Anarchists absolutely shitting all over communists but god damn I hateeeee it. No self awareness

Link to Instagram post

Edit: to be clear I don’t have a problem with Anarchists, just seems like very often MLs are met with so much vitriol with people they could collaborate with. Just sucks. Stupid interner

  • Leon_Frotsky [she/her]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    21
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    almost sectarian posted and then thought about it for a bit and decided that i was about to post cringe

  • CoolerOpposide [none/use name]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    35
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    fedposting Folx, I’m really worried that some of y’all are not talking about the real problem at hand, the people fighting for a Palestinian state! What they should really be fighting for is the abolition of the Palestinian state so they can be truly free.

    “What? You’re asking me to condemn the Israeli state? I’m not sure what that has to do with anything. Do you know how they treat gay people in Palestine btw?”

  • EmoThugInMyPhase [he/him]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    14
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    Maybe they should offer some answers to people’s problems so they wouldn’t be drawn to tankies? Seems a bit easier to do than to complain about them

  • barrbaric [he/him]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    381 year ago

    1st Paragraph: “Hmm yeah I can agree there’s some issues with people being overly dogmatic when we don’t really know what will lead to a successful revolution in a modern imperialist country”

    2nd Paragraph: gulag

  • HexbearGPT [comrade/them]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    291 year ago

    they are your closest allies if you can reach them by UNDERSTANDING their instincts against “authoritarianism” (and how that is inculcated by western propaganda) and treating it as a positive impulse that is being channeled negatively by capitalists against communists instead of against the capitaist class as a way to get natural allies to fight each other and never gain power.

  • betelgeuse [comrade/them]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    311 year ago

    “I’m just gonna stop any attempt at a scientific understanding of capital and power dynamics to make sure that communists don’t organize too many people at once.”

  • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    341 year ago

    I keep seeing this ‘One-size-fits-all’ as an insult. Yes, in fact, having a plan and sticking to the plan with moderate variation is a good idea. Noone has ever said that ‘one-size-fits-all’, but some plans have actually idk, accomplished something?

  • BeamBrain [he/him]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    64
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    I’m part of a communist org and I don’t exaggerate when I say that black nationalists have been more friendly and willing to work with us than anarchists have.

    • Angel [any]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      581 year ago

      I’m black, and I’ve generally aligned myself with anarcho-communism ideologically, but I eventually reached a point in which the “anarcho-” part is silent, and I simply just say “communist” if asked. I’m not a fan of this sectarian bullshit, I find people who use the term “tankie” unironically to be cringe, and this fight about authoritarianism has always just been extremely unhelpful I find. So as someone who would say I’m an anarchist, I don’t doubt what you’re saying here at all. I’m so tired of it because, ironically enough, people like the one who made that original Instagram post are seeming concerned the most with aesthetics instead of actual leftist causes. By that, I mean they sound like they’re more concerned about their label of “anarchist” and being seen as a “non-authoritarian” than anything else.

      • ratboy [they/them]OP
        link
        fedilink
        English
        321 year ago

        Seeing stuff like this ig post just reinforces to me that when people say “Anarchists and Communists hate eachother” it really just means that Anarchists hate communists lol. Most people critiquing the post come with actual thoughtful responses and information…whereas a lot of the people defending it just seem to be moving goalposts, posing gotcha questions, uttering American anticommunist talking points and just completely side stepping the fact that the post is OBVIOUSLY speaking generally about Marxists, yet they argue that its about “specific groups only”. Like if I were someone who knew nothing about communism, my reaction to the post would be “I need to steer clear of tankies” and not go much deeper than that. Super harmful imo and it sucks because I feel like there is much more in common between communism and anarchism foundationally than not

    • CoolerOpposide [none/use name]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      191 year ago

      Very nearly 100% of the time this is the case. I believed myself to be an ancom for a very long time and organized as such and never felt like anything was like… actually happening? Not that we didn’t have events, but literally people could not cooperate with other groups at all. From what I could tell, it was roughly the same within other groups as well.

      Eventually joined a pan-left org and it was immediately 1000x more productive and with significantly healthier discourse when there was any