I’ve used huge trucks for bush work. Like we’re talking going mudding just to get to work. This line of work basically put me in the position that is the subject of commercials that try to convince suburban dads that they need a huge truck in case one day their family goes on a fictional camping trip to the middle of a swamp.
Anyways, you know what I learned? These fucking things suck at off-roading.
- They have shit visibility. You sometimes need to get out of the truck to see around corners, especially if you’re cresting steep hills
- They have a dangerously high center of gravity (I saw a bunch of coworkers roll theirs) that is only amplified if you carry large loads in their truck beds
- Over-complicated features like traction control will actually kill your power if you’re doing some technical driving, which will make you get stuck when you don’t need to
There’s no good reason for these pieces of shit to exist.
Completely. Give me a light Geländewagen (and I’m talking about the utility version that armies buy, not the blinged up Chelsea tractor version), with triple differential lock and it’ll out-drive these monster trucks any day, on any terrain, pulling the same weight.
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oh shit you can’t !
But what if I need to believe that others think my penis is bigger than it is? Is there any other way?
A tank.
Get a properly sized pickup truck covered in dings and scratches showing you actually utilize the thing. Your penis is huge and you’ve got balls of steel! A paragon of masculinity!
This line of work basically put me in the position that is the subject of commercials that try to convince suburban dads that they need a huge truck in case one day their family goes on a fictional camping trip to the middle of a swamp.
This is so on point.
So many defenders go, “It helped when I had to haul shit to the dump” or “I bring wood back to build my shed”.
What about the other 95% of the year? Because I rent a van to move shit and I’m happy taking the bus.
“It helped when I had to haul shit to the dump” or “I bring wood back to build my shed”.
the marks of a man scared to learn how to tow a trailer because “i don’t know how to do it”
Just use a trailer, it’s not that bad.
Or do what I did and pay cash for a beat up old truck to do those things with. Mine didn’t even have a radio, the heat barely worked, but it hauled hog feed and garbage well enough. And I wasn’t paying a grand a month in a car payment and insurance.
I volunteered driving ambulances. Started in high school, 2003-2004. Our rigs at the time were a '97 Chevy van with a box and a '99 F250 with a box. They were the biggest things I’d driven at the time.
Moved away, did life, came back a decade later. Newest rigs were now 2015 F450 Super Duty with a box you could legit stand up in. Thing was unnecessarily large. All the things you’re saying are correct. The rig we purchased while I was there ended up being a slightly larger mod, but came with front, side, and rear cameras, because you’re absolutely right, can’t see shit. Blind spot in the front is legit 10-15 feet from the bumper.
You know what didn’t change in that interim? People’s windy, tiny driveways. I won’t toot my own horn but I’m a good driver, I frequently tell my wife “You could fit a Mac truck through there” when she’s driving and won’t squeeze through a gap. So when it came time to back these rigs up these narrow, curving driveways, up a hill, it was difficult. I’d have my crew get out generally and go begin assessment so I could get the rig in place for takedown. Problem is that I couldn’t drive all the time, and so the rig would frequently get left down on the road. And I don’t blame anyone, they were difficult maneuvers. I knew a few members who outright refused to drive the newer rigs becaude they were so massive, so now we’ve neutered our manpower.
There’s no good reason for these pieces of shit to exist.
Have you considered the profits of the auto industry?
There’s no good reason for these pieces of shit to exist.
So did you start taking an old civic to the in-the-bush job site then or what?
Edit: Or a midsize pickup or SUV or something? Helicopter? The down votes here are pretty absurd lol. I’m trying to figure out what vehicle to take to in-the-bush job sites in the future that can better handle the conditions, which the person I replied to specifically pointed out.
Most useful off-road vehicle I’ve ever driven was a lot like this thing: https://www.offroaderie.com/new-models/kawasaki-side-x-side-mule-sx-2036834140399698232475668
Or just a regular sized pickup truck, which I’ve also used for plenty of sites. But honestly I prefer the mules because they hold all the stuff I need for work and can fit through most forest understory. And in the rare chance that you happen to turtle them it’s possible to pull them off/out of whatever they’re stuck on. If you get a giant truck stuck in the mud you’re donezo.
I also took my Toyota Prius to plenty of sites, although I’d never off-road with it when the ground is swampy or sandy it did fine on plenty of rough roads and open fields. I’m sure a Subaru or other small all wheel drive sedan could handle lots of off-road work sites.
Thank you! Makes sense. I think I was sort of misreading your statement initially. And I guess I never really thought about the 350s and aboves useful applications (or lack thereof lol).
I’ll add my Honda Element did surprisingly well for many 1000s of km of rough logging roads once upon a time.
You dumbass
My uncle did a four wheel driving day in his Subaru Forrester one time and it could climb hills others couldn’t because it was so light.
I’ve also heard stories of farmers with tiny 4x4s like a Suzuki Jimny using them during floods because they don’t sink in the mud like the massive ones do
I prefer driving smaller cars in heavy snow because they’re light enough to sit on top and not get bogged down. Back when I had a commute in my tiny little Scion xA I’d drive by bro-dozers and SUVs stuck in the snow thinking their four-wheel drive would save them from being idiots.
Not to mention they don’t even fucking fit in off-road situations half the time. Unless you’re in a wide open field or have giant cleared roads (in which case why do you need an ultimate off-road machineTM), most off-road situations in the eastern US are going to involve trees. Try driving around trees in that thing and you’ll be stuck in a matter of minutes.
For all the actual off road work I’ve done, the best vehicle has always been those little utility off-road vehicles (we call them mules or gators but I’m sure they have a real name) or just a regular-sized pickup truck with 4 wheel drive and low gears.
For all the actual off road work I’ve done, the best vehicle has always been those little utility off-road vehicles (we call them mules or gators but I’m sure they have a real name) or just a regular-sized pickup truck with 4 wheel drive and low gears.
UTVs, side by sides, i’ve seen stuff like that used to refer to them in a more generic manner, shockingly those are so good primarily because they weigh nothing and have comparatively huge tires with way more surface area, while also having equivalent power if not more, just due to the size.
Anyways, you know what I learned? These fucking things suck at off-roading.
no shit, they’re running live axle suspension, no amount of lift kit is going to get your diff case unstuck from the mud LMAO.
Doesn’t help that these idiots also put small tires on big rims to get that bafflingly stupid look on them, which lowers the ride quality, and lowers the axle even more.
I’m convinced you have to be brain damaged to own a bro dozer, let alone think an f150 with live axles can get around in mud. Bro almost nothing can, a humvee might do it, but it’s also literally built to do it. It’s got full independent suspension, nice large tires with high sidewalls, portal axles for increased clearance. It’s got a low cab, set next to the engine and transmission (that’s why they’re so wide) They’re short, so they can get around trees and shit and likewise have a low CG.
And f150 looks like it was built to be a parody of a hummer, and it’s no surprise that they drive and handle like shit as a result.
That truck is also raised. I drive a ‘normal’ size SUV and once drove past one of those raised trucks in a parking lot - its hood was as high as my roof.
externalized obesity epidemic
Because you can’t pack this much fat into one body.
they have big people over there
Y’all won’t how a camera works 🤣🤣🤣🤣 you can even see the seam.
This is painfully obvious what this propaganda is trying to do. Then y’all take it a step further by making stories up about the driver. Like sitting in a GOP strategy room, just a notch or two less evil than the actual GOP members.
What seam?
Regarding propaganda, just because something is propaganda doesn’t mean it is automatically a lie. It just means that it is being used for political gains.
You folks make me so sad for our future. I sit here watching the GOP and fascist countries gaining power while I watch the folks who should care race them to the bottom.
This specifically is just a lex extreme version of the US bombing the middle east to stop terrorists.
These images get used as accurate portrayals of progressive lies and gets added to the pile of
leftistconspiracies. These things essentially become an onboarding packet.Whatever, it’s just a meme I guess.
What agenda is being pushed by a camera angle that makes the truck look 10% bigger? Its still a massive truck and I think it was mostly photographed this way to show the grills and hoods of both vehicles, not to embelish the size.
Sure, this image calling the truck with a lift a monstrosity with perspective that clearly makes the size delta as large as possible was just chosen at random 👌👍
The hoops you are jumping through here qualifies for a circus act. 10%, my goodness that suv could be near fully imposed on just the door panels. The height of the SUV is at the truck bed ffs 🤣
I wonder how big these things are compared to European lorry? That thing is fucking huge!
Never been to the US, only now with this picture do I realize the size of these things. That’s basically a monster truck ? are there many of them ?
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Thanks I’m calling them monster trucks from now on
Visited upstate NY a couple of years ago. They accounted for I’d say 30-40% of all traffic. Of course, upstate NY is basically the southern US of the northern US if you know what I mean.
What does that make Pennsyltucky?
I don’t, but I can understand percentages
depends on where you go upstate, but yeah, rural America in general is where you find confederate flags
I was near lake Erie personally
This picture is from Australia. We don’t have many, they’re becoming more common but ones that are lifted like that are less common. In my area it’s mainly normal rams. Which are far bigger than normal aussie cars.
I live in Imperial Beach, California. There is absolutely no reason to have one of these monstrosities here, and none of the 15 that live in my neighborhood ever have any type of mud on them. Not even the 4 whose hoods are at my eye level, I’m 6’3" / 192cm, because they lifted the hell out of them. I will admit that the guy who has an 8’4" tall old school VW bug may be a bit strange, but at least that thing looks cool, and he has it as an advertisement for his shop, so there was a reason for him to have the thing.
Ironically the VW is the only one that ever has any mud on it.
Truck? It’s a fucking tank.
Picture is from Australia but yes the US is littered with these, especially in rural communities but there are more in the cities than their should be
Fucking yank-tanks
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If there’s a full grown man standing in front of my truck and I can still see him, I just don’t feel safe!
What about a bear, though?
Black bears wouldn’t have a chance of survival being hit with that thing. Grizzlys might slow the truck down, maybe. A Polar Bear is the only type of bear I can think of that you’d really need a tank sized vehicle to deal with it. Heck even a Giant Panda is just gonna bat at you to get you to go away since you aren’t bamboo.
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Given the size difference alone, no they are not.
Bears are stupid. I eat da honey, hurr durr.
i will never understand the inability for people driving vehicles like this to say shit like “never buy a small vehicle, this 3 ton truck saved my life, it’s basic physics”
Yeah, and if i’m rolling a freight train and someone gets in my way, i won’t even notice, it’s basic physics.
American “I got mine” mentality at its finest. Too much lead poisoning (my leading hypothesis. You don’t elect someone like Trump unless there is something seriously wrong) to realise it’s a race to the bottom. When enough people do something at the expense of others, what a surprise when others also do it at the expense of you, and it all turns to shit.
It’s this absurd country of “Christian” values, except not the part of caring for others, “fuck that socialism hippie shit, except for Russia, which is cool now because they meddle in our elections… Or, they meddle in favour of my team! We need to do something about the socio-economic situation! What, unions? No fuck that Marxist shit you commie!”
Etc. It’s all just too dumb. Hence, lead poisoning hypothesis.
"fuck that socialism hippie shit, except for Russia, which is cool now because they meddle in our elections…
Nah, it’s because Putin buys yachts
It’s this absurd country of “Christian” values, except not the part of caring for others, “fuck that socialism hippie shit, except for Russia, which is cool now because they meddle in our elections…
Yeah, they don’t like that be nice to others, love thy neighbor, turn the other cheek stuff anymore.
And that’s not just a quip: An evangelical leader is warning that conservative Christians are now rejecting the teachings of Jesus as “liberal talking points.”
the lead poisoning would only really apply to people 50 and older, i would think, based on my assumed timespans of leaded fuel and continual exposure to it.
It’s from Australia. Care to try again?
Australian “I got mine” mentality at its finest. Too much lead poisoning (my leading hypothesis. You don’t elect someone like Pauline Hanson unless there is something seriously wrong) to realise it’s a race to the bottom. When enough people do something at the expense of others, what a surprise when others also do it at the expense of you, and it all turns to shit.
It’s this absurd country of “Christian” values, except not the part of caring for others, “fuck that socialism hippie shit, except for China, which is cool now because they meddle in our elections… Or, they meddle in favour of my team! We need to do something about the socio-economic situation! What, unions? No fuck that Marxist shit you commie!”
It’s still an example of the American Christian mentality, even if this example is in Australia. Like Trump supporters are examples of the Nazi mentality even though they aren’t actually–ok bad example there.
Yeah, and if i’m rolling a freight train and someone gets in my way, i won’t even notice, it’s basic physics.
And every time you arrive the chime will play.
nah here in the US we subscribe to the notion that freighters have bells on them.
Anything else is a crime against trains.
Bells? We don’t do that.
a lot of other countries around the world do have bells on some of their freight lines, but it seems to be primarily US import freighters, though there are domestic manufacturers outside of the US that do use bells. I hear they’re relatively common in canada as well? Makes sense frankly.
specifically, this one
I wonder which vehicle is legitimately safer. I think crumple zones are a big part of why wrecks are so much more survivable now. I don’t think it’d be a simple as most mass wins, but more how the vehicle transfers that to occupants.
I know I got rear ended by one of those beasts and it totalled my car, but didn’t seem to bother the tank that hit me. I was shocked at the damage because it didn’t really feel that bad. Of course I don’t really know anything about vehicle safety so I could real easily be wrong.
the reason why mass matters is because if you have more mass, let’s say twice the mass of a sedan for example, you transfer significantly more energy into the smaller vehicle, and the smaller vehicle transfers significantly less energy into the large vehicle.
go find a video of a freight training crashing into a car or something at a crossing. There’s a reason freight trains don’t have crumple zones.
the tank that hit me
Not fair to call it a tank. A tank driver can see what’s in front of it.
You’re right on crumple zones, but also bumper height makes a big difference (i.e. if bumpers are aligned, there’s less damage). https://www.motortrend.com/news/collision-costs-iihs-says-car-suv-bumper-heights-can-prove-expensive-9290/
How else are they supposed to tell the entire world they are massive dicks with micro penises?
That’s a goddamn Ferd Fteenthousand.
Both of these look terrible and very stressfull to drive.
My 2021 Seat Leon hatchback fits my entire family, with luggage for a weekend, while being fun and relaxing to drive.
These monstrosities are idiotic.
I hate how much they are spreading for no reason. We have rather small parking lots, especially in denser areas and underground parkings. Some 20 years ago that was never a problem at all. Now people take forever to park their shitty cars. People have to get out before they park, so they just stand in the way. Many use 2 parking spots because their fat asses can’t get out of their fat cars, or they just can’t drive in general and decided they need the biggest car they can afford to get groceries.
This shit is like tobacco. We all know it’s fucking awful and makes no sense, but some assholes insist.
So treat it the same way: massive taxes (upon purchase, but also yearly), banned in many public places (underground parking, city centers, …) and there you go.
Oh they can totally be, first job out of uni in 2012 had diesel f350 super duties as field service vehicles, they made sense for some jobs where it was super remote and rough driving (1000+ km a tank), they’ve since gone to 2 panel vans and a truck which is way more handy. They’re super high off the ground so you need to be careful and most importantly, use your mirrors, these were all tow capable so they had the larger mirrors with the second parabolic mirror, you can effectively minimise blind spots to your sides and behind (I think all car mirrors should be that way, I added them to my sedan’s mirrors) but they still turn slow and are heavy. A chunk of my coworkers outright refused to use them, instead opting for rentals, and others were definitely white knuckling it the entire time they used them.
Wouldn’t you want something light and small for off roading?
That should help you clear obstacles by goong over or around easier.
What vaultdweller said, ground clearance matters a lot if you’re not going fast, you can plow through a lot of snow in a truck that I’ve got stuck in a compact with.
It depends on the circumstances, ground clearance is a bitch. Seriously a light car say a Jeep Cherokee sport can have a lot of ground clearance via lift kit but it fucks with the balance. Meanwhile an f350 can just kinda do it by default.
Since trucks are safer than regular cars, I’m gonna get a Leopard II tank, which is safer than a truck
