• tired_n_bored
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    11 year ago

    Since trucks are safer than regular cars, I’m gonna get a Leopard II tank, which is safer than a truck

  • credit crazy
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    111 year ago

    One pretty big factor to these getting bought is due to safety and for that reason I feel like we as a society has prioritized driver safety that we have sacrificed pedestrian safety

    • KillingTimeItself
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      it’s not safety, i mean, well, it is safety, at the cost of the poor sod that you crash into and fucking kill. Or the children that you’re statistically more likely to run over and even more statistically likely to kill if you do hit them.

      You know what else is safe? Not ramming your car into a brick wall.

      I’m just talking about car safety for the first bit here, not even pedestrian impacts.

    • @Baylahoo@lemmy.world
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      81 year ago

      I’d argue that it sacrifices the safety of any other car that’s smaller than it too, with sudans being the most vulnerable. No way a bumper difference of feet allows for the smaller car’s safety features to work as intended if not bypassed entirely.

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        31 year ago

        especially when lifted, if you’re driving a corolla or some shit and get hit with a tonka truck you’re getting mostly lower suspension, luckily it’s still an engine block in front of you, but it’s still fucking horrifying.

        I’ve also heard that these things almost never get insured because they’re a fucking mess.

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          11 year ago

          Yeah crumple zones are enforced by the bumper so when you lift a car you’re making the colliding car smash into the other above the bumper and gliding above the crumple zone if I recall the Ford pento was unfairly judged because the cars that were used to rate it’s rear end crash safety had their front ends waghted down to simulate heavy breaking however it caused the cars to not only have more weight than normal but they also ramed into the pento going under the crumple zone and directly into the gas tank so I guess you can also make a argument for lowered SUVs and trucks to be just as bad as lifted trucks and suvs

          • KillingTimeItself
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            11 year ago

            so I guess you can also make a argument for lowered SUVs and trucks to be just as bad as lifted trucks and suvs

            smells to me like any non standardization in the auto industry greatly increases the danger of being in a car. Surely this won’t cause any problems.

    • @Tehdastehdas@lemmy.world
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      141 year ago

      Nope, purely emotional buying:

      … occupant death rate was 6% higher in SUVs than in conventional cars, and 8% in the biggest ones.

      … children are eight times more likely to die when struck by an SUV compared with an average passenger car.

      … “These figures suggest that SUVs were probably killing around an extra 3,000 people in the US a year at that time – more than died at 9/11,” write Simms and Murray. Roughly a third of those died in SUV rollovers, and another third from being hit by one. The final third were being killed by respiratory problems because of the extra pollution caused by SUVs.”

      https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/nov/05/monsters-of-the-road-what-should-the-uk-do-about-suvs

      • credit crazy
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        11 year ago

        Eh most of your points kinda proves my point of how we have been sacrificing pedestrian safety for driver safety the only considerable counterpoint you brought up is how SUVs are more prone to rollover and from what I understand about cars getting bigger is so crashing is less deadly but by being bigger you also make crashing more inevitable so I guess that’s a bit of a stalemate argument

  • I Cast Fist
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    41 year ago

    How else are they supposed to tell the entire world they are massive dicks with micro penises?

  • @DaddleDew@lemmy.world
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    1021 year ago

    He needs the large crew cab to have somewhere to put his groceries. Because he doesn’t want to get that bed scratched.

    • @Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
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      21 year ago

      Well you don’t want groceries in the bed mostly because it will be thrown around since it’s just open space…

      • JJROKCZ
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        My dad always has trucks, whole 30 years of my life. To prevent groceries flying around you tie the bags and put them close to the cab, unless they’re really light and that case you put them in the cab. He never had crew cab until much later in my life so stuff had to go in the bed as 90s extended cabs were not very extended lol the days of the single fold down seat behind the main front seats sucked for me

        • @Juvyn00b@lemmy.world
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          11 year ago

          I’m 6’2" and used one in my adult lifetime (ranger if I recall). At my age now I doubt I could do it again

      • edric
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        51 year ago

        Aren’t there cargo nets and other accessories for that? I get it if you have perishable groceries that need to be kept frozen until you get home and it’s hot outside.

        • @Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          31 year ago

          Indeed. Hell my old Ranger had a gap in the bed liner so I could slide a 2x4 (I think I actually used a 2x6) in place and have a perfect divider for groceries right at the tailgate. It was simple and worked perfect. When it was time to do truck shit the board just lifted up and got tossed in with the bricks or whatever.

        • @Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
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          Things are pretty fantastic when you use them for that they’re made to do… Try safely carrying 20 4’x8’ sheets of sheetrock in a small car… Or try carrying two bags of groceries in a sedan’s trunk without anything holding them in place…

          • @Player2@lemm.ee
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            51 year ago

            A van will have more cargo volume for the same wheelbase, be easier to load, and have the cargo be covered from the elements. Those are made for carrying stuff. Pick-ups are made only to show that the owner is compensating for something.

            • @Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
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              71 year ago

              Pickups let you load stuff as high as you want to and the open sides can make things much simpler. Try loading a couple of loads of dirt in a van.

              • @Player2@lemm.ee
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                For home use I have seen most people buy dirt in bags. A sedan or even a compact would handle carrying those. The open sides can be a benefit for sure, but I don’t know about putting cargo ‘as high as you want to,’ given that wind is a thing. And vans are pretty tall anyway!

                I understand that they can have some utility on a farm or something, but the average person is not regularly transporting a ‘couple loads of dirt’ in suburbia.

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                  And I never said the average person should own a truck but buying dirt in bulk (measured in yards) isn’t unusual if your house has space for a garden and it’s way cheaper than buying bags of it. Same for carrying lumber that would be too long for a van.

                  Also it’s very funny that if you want to be able to do most of things a truck can do, the alternative to a truck should be a contractor’s van which has worse visibility on the sides and at the back, is just as big or bigger than a truck and uses the same engine…

    • @FireRetardant@lemmy.world
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      571 year ago

      I watched a guy load bags of soil from the hardware store into the back seats of the crew cab while he had an empty bed. The bed would have been easier to load and could easily be hosed down if a bag leaked. I guess he forgot it was also a truck and not just a luxury commuter car.

  • KingJalopy
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    291 year ago

    Not arguing with the statement being made here but the tilt shift photography makes that picture much worse than it is in reality. Again, I completely disagree with these giant atrocities rolling down the road but still this photo is not accurate by any means.

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      I see some blurring, probably deliberate, on the left edge of the image. I don’t think this is “tilt shifted” and I don’t think the effect you’re describing would make the one truck seem larger than the other.

      I don’t disagree with your point that the image is chosen specifically because it excessively highlights the difference in size… but I’d say it has more to do with the angle and the order of the trucks than any post fx.

      Also, srsly: no tilt shift.

      • KingJalopy
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        151 year ago

        That’s cool, I’m no photographer but there’s something at play here skewing the perspective. Def not gonna argue if it is or isn’t tilt shift, I don’t fuckin know

        • Ebby
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          Yeah, depth of field is all over the map. It doesn’t make sense. Text in focus behind the truck, but not the SUV, even though it’s further away.

          My vote is a composite. Several images merged together.

          EDIT: oh yeah. Tree is a seam. Bush behind the truck bed is 2 colors and focuses. And the trucks back bumper… bad masking.

          Tilt shift generally makes things look miniature like a model.

          • @bionicjoey@lemmy.ca
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            61 year ago

            Are we sure it isn’t just the automatic filters that get applied when you snap a photo on a modern smartphone? Like where it tries to pick out the subject and blur the background?

        • ThatKomputerKat
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          Remember that photo of the Bidens with the Carters where the Bidens looked like giants compared to the Carters? It was an illusion caused by the use of a wide angle lense. Makes things around the edge look bigger.

          This photo looks like it was taken with a wide angle lens and then the left side was cropped off. Look at the difference in size between the wheels on the truck.

          These pickup trucks are still stupid though.

        • @comrade19@lemmy.world
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          31 year ago

          I dont know much about much or anything either but I thought tilt shift made things look smaller but idk you know

    • @Creat@discuss.tchncs.de
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      There is no tilt shifting in that photo. Neither physical (by actually tilting a single lens inside the lens assembly) nor digital. What you’re seeing as blurryness is just normal how camera focus works.

      They may have applied a slight vignette blur to the edges, but it’s really hard to tell with the light bleed on the left edge.

      • @lobo@lemmy.world
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        71 year ago

        He means there is deliberate perspective making the big truck even bigger in the photo.

        Notice how the whels of the small SUV are the same size. And the front tire on the big truck is like 20% bigger than the rear.

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          That may well be the case that this is what he means, but how would we know when he calls it tilt shift anyway? Cause that’s not what “tilt shift” means.

          If he wants to say it’s photoshopped or whatever, just say that instead of using terms that clearly don’t apply.

          • KingJalopy
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            Some people don’t have the words for stuff sometimes. Sorry I can’t smart enough.

  • @rainynight65@feddit.de
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    101 year ago

    That truck is also raised. I drive a ‘normal’ size SUV and once drove past one of those raised trucks in a parking lot - its hood was as high as my roof.

  • @IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world
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    Y’all won’t how a camera works 🤣🤣🤣🤣 you can even see the seam.

    This is painfully obvious what this propaganda is trying to do. Then y’all take it a step further by making stories up about the driver. Like sitting in a GOP strategy room, just a notch or two less evil than the actual GOP members.

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      What seam?

      Regarding propaganda, just because something is propaganda doesn’t mean it is automatically a lie. It just means that it is being used for political gains.

      • @IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world
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        11 year ago

        You folks make me so sad for our future. I sit here watching the GOP and fascist countries gaining power while I watch the folks who should care race them to the bottom.

        This specifically is just a lex extreme version of the US bombing the middle east to stop terrorists.

        These images get used as accurate portrayals of progressive lies and gets added to the pile of leftist conspiracies. These things essentially become an onboarding packet.

        Whatever, it’s just a meme I guess.

        • @FireRetardant@lemmy.world
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          41 year ago

          What agenda is being pushed by a camera angle that makes the truck look 10% bigger? Its still a massive truck and I think it was mostly photographed this way to show the grills and hoods of both vehicles, not to embelish the size.

          • @IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world
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            Sure, this image calling the truck with a lift a monstrosity with perspective that clearly makes the size delta as large as possible was just chosen at random 👌👍

            The hoops you are jumping through here qualifies for a circus act. 10%, my goodness that suv could be near fully imposed on just the door panels. The height of the SUV is at the truck bed ffs 🤣

  • @Hadriscus@lemm.ee
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    381 year ago

    Never been to the US, only now with this picture do I realize the size of these things. That’s basically a monster truck ? are there many of them ?

    • JJROKCZ
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      61 year ago

      Picture is from Australia but yes the US is littered with these, especially in rural communities but there are more in the cities than their should be

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      I live in Imperial Beach, California. There is absolutely no reason to have one of these monstrosities here, and none of the 15 that live in my neighborhood ever have any type of mud on them. Not even the 4 whose hoods are at my eye level, I’m 6’3" / 192cm, because they lifted the hell out of them. I will admit that the guy who has an 8’4" tall old school VW bug may be a bit strange, but at least that thing looks cool, and he has it as an advertisement for his shop, so there was a reason for him to have the thing.

      Ironically the VW is the only one that ever has any mud on it.

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      Visited upstate NY a couple of years ago. They accounted for I’d say 30-40% of all traffic. Of course, upstate NY is basically the southern US of the northern US if you know what I mean.

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      This picture is from Australia. We don’t have many, they’re becoming more common but ones that are lifted like that are less common. In my area it’s mainly normal rams. Which are far bigger than normal aussie cars.

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      …no, that’s just the common american pickup: monster trucks are much larger…