Today 10 years ago I went to Poland to buy a Phone with pre installed #Firefox OS on. The Phone was a Alcatel One, so very shitty. Two years later I installed Firefox OS on my Nexus 5 instead.
It was a very good concept, but sadly rolled out on too shitty hardware so it never caught on.
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I wish so much that there was a solid Linux phone that was just as viable as any android-based device.
There are some options, but nothing that just works.
I thought this was an urban myth or a collective hysteria.
This makes me nostalgic for my Palm Pre and webOS.
Me too. I loved webOS. Favorite phone I’ve ever had.
I never understood why they targetted low end hardware with a tech stack that’s notoriously slow (web).
To keep it affordable?
Then use something more efficient than the web stack. In the end, Android ran better on the same devices and had better software support.
This was exactly my (dumb, layman) view of things - great idea hobbled from the outset by the marriage of slow web apps with slower hardware.
How was Firefox OS on the Nexus 5?
As far as I remember much more fluid to use but still riddled with all the bugs.
For the curious people, Firefox OS kept living in a way, being used as the foundation for KaiOS, which was a smart operative system for “dumb” phones. This one took off in certain parts of the world.
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The N9 was killed by Stephen Elop, the new CEO coming straight from Microsoft with a mission: get Nokia bought off by MS.
Right from the start, he ran an explicit counter-advertisement campaign against the N9 and Meego. Whatever commercial success it would be, this would be the first and last device running MeeGo from Nokia, and there would be no support for MeeGo.
Nokia was to embrace Windows mobile OS, that turned out to be a total disaster. But indeed, after he tanked Nokia, it became cheap enough to bought by MS, as Nokia got both cheap and undsirable by any other big player due to its binding to MS bad mobile OS, and Elop got his VP status back there.
This is a shame in the history of mobile phones and OS!
Later, some former Nokia would start their own phone company reusing part of MeeGo. Jolla was born.
I still get mad at this. I had bought Nokias for most of my life and it was probably the biggest and best european tech company and it was destroyed by that idiot.
I resent him slightly less than the idiots who appointed him CEO. To be appointed, you need to come with a plan you present to the board. Who the hell thought “let’s destroy everything that made Nokia successful so far and become a Nth Windows Phone maker!” was a good strategy??
https://seekingalpha.com/article/916271-how-stephen-elop-destroyed-nokia
Symbian OS still had a very large user base and some support from large customers. The N9 and MeeGo was getting better reviews and customer satisfaction reports than Samsung and Apple’s phones! The obvious strategy was to navigate a transition between the legacy Symbian and a rising and promising MeeGo. But since his mandate was not to make Nokia successful but rather to have bought by MS, he could trash the business at will: made it cheaper for his real employer, MS.
Seriously, that guy should have been jailed!!
This situation was revolting in every way. They destroyed the best european tech company. They had everything. A music service, a maps service superior to Google Maps, mail service, everything. It was sickening.
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Reminds me of the pre phone/tablet line with webOS and the way hp or better their short lived CEO Leo Apotheker killed it. That was such a shame great devices and great os.
I remember Ars Technica had an article or series on his bad decisions called “Apotheker needs an Apothecary” and lit into him for all the dumb things he was saying and doing. I just don’t see how you can have the manufacturing and branding behemoth HP was then, get giftwrapped Palm and webOS while RIM was still in the process of imploding, and fumble the bag so hard
This reminds me… What happened to Sailfish?
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Not exactly an answer to your question, but it does discuss Sailfish a little and is pretty interesting: https://youtu.be/HzCMKbhK-EY
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I also had a Sailfish phone, but someone broke into my appartment and stole it together with other electeonic devices. I alwaydös wanted to know what happened when they tried to sell it :D
I once had a very unique camera stolen. I expected the thief won’t know what the fuck it is so it’ll show up on a classified nearby; so I asked the local photography community to keep an eye out. A couple weeks later I was notified that that kind of camera is for sale in the town over. I went to look as a potential buyer with cops following me, and got it back.
Thief had an epiphany and became a Linux kernel committer.
I remember when Ubuntu for phones was hyped so big, then it fell flat…
can you still get that
Yep https://ubuntu-touch.io/ . Rolling out LTS 20.04 for their supported phones at the moment.
We had two of these that ended up sitting in my desk at work back around that time. They were sent to us free with hopes we would port our (shitty) android/iOS apps to it. One was a bit newer, but they both just felt shitty compared to the equivalent Nexus or iPhone of the time, so I never bothered trying to use it as a daily driver. I wasn’t even on the app dev team, no one else wanted them or cared at all. Was fun as a technical curiosity though.
Ah, nostalgic! I loved the Firefox OS! I even preached about it to family and friends. Good times.
Unfortunately it never felt like a finished product.
I miss my nexus 6 shamu. I think that phone was the best that Google ever made even to this day.
I still have mine in a drawer. Sure newer phones are taller but that thing was fucken WIDE. It felt more like a small tablet. I don’t know if it’s right to say that Google made it though; really it was made by Motorola
Same here; I’ve got mine in a box along with my Pixel XL, Nexus 5, and Moto X (which feels like a tiny Nexus 6). I tried the Nexus 6 for a few hours about a year ago, and it was still surprisingly snappy. I have a Note 20 Ultra for my daily driver, and it still feels small compared to the girth of the Nexus 6. I feel like I could possibly use it today, which is one of the reasons I keep it around, in case of an emergency.
My Nexus 6 was the worst phone I’ve ever had. It aged like milk. It was so bad I jumped off Google phones and never went back. Getting the OnePlus 3T was like breathing fresh air again.
Edit: had the Nexus S and Nexus 4 before the 6, loved those phones… So jumping off Nexus was no small matter.
I’ve had android phones since the G1. The Nexus One was pretty freaking sweet, but my favorite phone of all time was either the Nexus S or the Nexus 5x. The curved screen on the S was great and it fit into the back pocket of my pants “like a glove”.
Jealous. That always looked cool. Sad it never caught on.
Rad! I just threw ubuntu touch on my nexus 6p… Far from perfect, but a great premise of a new era!
I recently flexed on some nerds when I whipped out my Zaurus
Based. Do you have a picture?
I wanted to get the clamshell version of one of those a while back, turns out they’re quite expensive (£300) though
