In all seriousness I feel like the common answers I saw of Diogenes (because that was like, his entire shtick) or Socrates (because they killed him for being annoying) are probably better answers but saying its Trotsky on a leftist forum is way funnier.
Trotsky himself COULD be sophisticated, and I think he wrote somewhere that had he been in power instead of Stalin those 5 year plans wouldn’t have been that much less painful, but the political movement he left behind produced some of the more simplistic narratives about socialism ever, on par with “muh human nature” shit
He did some genuinely intelligent things during the revolution. It’s a shame the power struggle and his theories turned out the way it did, the movement he left behind, as you say, is incredibly annoying.
How I didn’t think of Stirner as a contender until my friend mentioned it is honestly shockingly.
Wasn’t Stirner a fake guy made up for Marx to be mad at though?
Communism is when I do whatever I want, and the more I do, the more communist it is.
I’m sorry but Stirner is just too cool and audacious to be annoying, even Marx was tickled by the mere “existence” of the man
Now his fans who take his theories seriously on the other hand…
Stirner would bully egoists so hard…
I feel like Voltaire was probably a real pill. Just not fun to be around.
A lot of Urbanist Twitter could probably go here. Objectively correct takes delivered in the most insufferable way possible
Blaming poor people for needing a car to survive is my least favorite if there’s
Trotsky is the worst even more so for the legacy he left behind. Empowering these fucking nerds to create orgs that gotcha AES countries and fall in line with the imperialist core talking points all the while claiming the banner of Socialists.
Which orgs are you referring to? There’s been a few splits lol
I may be biased because computer science and engineering are some of my deepest passions, and this Dunning Kruger dipshit has managed to gain an entirely unwarranted degree of trust to speak about the subjects. I also personally know people who got suckered into his cult.
Trotsky is a good answer and funny for leftists to say.
Cicero also works.
Charles De Gaulle is also a possibility.
not super evil
De Gaulle is responsible for thousands of deaths in Africa
my b I guess I only registered the “annoying” part of the question
I guess… but he’s also responsible for this… from Lightiggy’s post in reddit…
Silly, but he did it because they’re Arabs/amazighs, not because they were traitors.
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But without Charles De Gaulle we lose one of my favorite quotes!
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Jesus during his time managed to piss off a great many people, so he’s probably a contender. He would refuse to answer questions straight and would always use parables, and pissed off the Pharisees to no end. He even befriended a tax collector!
Parables are a decent way to overcome the general illiteracy of the time. People have always responded well to Aesop fables. Use symbolic tales parallel to the deeper lesson and all that.
Creating the worlds most colonial religion is definitely a top tier most aggravating move though tbh.
Actually, according to Mark, Jesus spoke in parables in order to hide the true meaning of what he said. 🤷♂️
Socrates seems in the running for this
Dude was so annoying he was forced to choose between social or literal suicide and chose to become a martyr for debate bros everywhere.
I vote for my older sister circa when we were teenagers
bill mahler, elong musk, ayn Rrand, martin luther, or galileo
Oh yeah, Bill fucking Mahr. I hate that man with such purity.
Ptolemy that little shit
I know this is a shitpost, but the real reason Socrates was executed was his real or perceived ties with the dictatorship of the 30, which took power after they lost Peloponesian war, and killed a bunch of athenians.
I.F. Stone Breaks the Socrates Story: An old muckraker sheds fresh light on the 2,500-year-old mystery and reveals some Athenian political realities that Plato did his best to hide.
http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/socrates/ifstoneinterview.html
Huh, but also I’m sure him being insufferable did not help.
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