I’m thinking of the millions of people in future generations. The billions of people who get impacted by US policies. It can’t always be the “least bad option”. Third party or bust.
On it
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Well you seem like a delight.
Meanwhile Biden is legitimizing right wing boogeymen about trans kids: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/28/health/transgender-surgery-biden.html
The palestinian kids?
Sorry forgot.
Seriously.
Biden needs to step aside ASAP so that we can get a candidate with a better than 50/50 chance at beating trump.
trump is too dangerous to risk it, voters and the party both need to do everything possible to stop him.
For the party, that means not running Biden
Unfortunately current polling hasn’t shown someone like that yet. Harris would probably be first up but it’s not an advantage starting again this late unfortunately.
Unfortunately current polling
Can you like a source who’s method isn’t quick and dirty polls by a company who makes whatever polls there donors want and whose founder didn’t get arrested last election for using his companies polls to try and influence election results so their literal bets on elections would pay off?
Bonus points if the founder also didn’t solicite their employees to enter an illegal straw donor scheme.
Hint:
Not from this absolute shit show
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_for_Progress
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The poll your likely referencing compared pro-Israel moderates to Biden.
All it shows is the people dont just not want Biden, they don’t want Biden because of his policy stances and they don’t want someone else with the same conservative policy
So who’s your candidate, and how would they win enough votes from a major party in which 50+% of people are (unfortunately, but accurately) moderates?
in which 50% of people are (unfortunately, but accurately) moderates?
Do you think it’s easier to convince 50% of Dems to vote for more than they want, or for less than they want?
And that’s not even getting into how even Republicans agree with progressive policy.
The policy is popular. But with moderate Dems, republicans, and pretty much all of mainstream media fearmingering about progress, people won’t label themselves progressive even though they agree with the platform.
So who’s your candidate
I hate how people phrase that like anyone saying Biden is a stupid risk, are just saying that because they have a favorite candidate…
Anyone that’s not pro-genocide, is pro-worker, and not trump would have a walkin victory.
You asked for one specific person, so AOC has the best chance to stop trump in my opinion.
She’s young, charismatic, a great public speaker, and can flip red states like Obama in 08 due to those traits.
You asked for one specific person, so AOC has the best chance to stop trump in my opinion.
… her national favorability is literally worse than Biden’s. And it would only get worse with the right-wing media brigade capitalizing on all this time they’ve spent demonizing her.
I don’t know why this illusion persists that the US is secretly majority left-wing and only voting in Republicans and moderate Democrats all the goddamn time for fucking funsies.
You are in a tiny tiny echo chamber if you think she’s got a chance. This election will come down to firmly purple swing states, and literally not a single one would swing blue for such a divisive candidate. (Not even saying she’s divisive for good reason, just that she objectively is when you look at public sentiment).
Biden is so unfortunately the best chance to avoid Trump, and he’s not even a great chance.
This election will come down to firmly purple swing states, and literally not a single one would swing blue for such a divisive candidate. (Not even saying she’s divisive for good reason, just that she objectively is when you look at public sentiment).
2008 Obama…
Our first Black president. Lots of “moderates” said the same things you’re saying now.
Then he flipped a bunch of red states. Not just purple. Solid red states voting for a young progressive minority.
And the vast majority of the electorate is even more conservative now, while modern progressives have less broad party support than Obama did. Obama had also been working on and receiving POTUS chatter for years before throwing his hat in. There’s just no one like that in today’s party.
It’s not 2008, and a comparison of Obama’s chances then with someone sliding into the race this late is not based in reality. I really wish it was, but there is no Obama in today’s DRC, and if there was, his campaign would still be starting 10 steps back to suddenly enter the race. I don’t like it any more than the next guy, but I’m not gonna advocate for even worse chances against Trump.
The most vulnerable person is a black trans woman, she is also a conservative, I did not think people like her existed until I met her.
She’s in the sunken place.
I think you mean masochistic attention seekers.
That’s where “best interests” diverges from “desired candidate”.
Fascist might become vulnerable soon if we start swinging
Yes I will vote in the interest of the straight white cis male professional comedians, who I’m sure we can all agree are the most oppressed and vulnerable people in all of history.
Literally nobody is performing gender-affirming surgery on minors. It’s difficult enough to get as an adult lmao
Ever heard of Project 2025?
It calls for barring transgender people from the military and to stop what it considers the “toxic normalization of transgenderism” across the government and American society. It seeks to abolish the president’s Gender Policy Council, “which it views as promoting abortion and the ‘new woke gender ideology,’”
its already happening my dude.
child labour is already legalized in many states queer rights are slowly being eroded away already.
Yeah, and this is all because of republican footholds in those states and the supreme court. If that happened during a democrat presidency, then what do you think would happen with a republican presidency?
blah blah. its funny how democrats can never accomplish anything good, just bad shit blamed on republicans, but when its republicans on power nothing can ever stop them from fucking everything up.
almost like the system itself is broken and electing a geriatric fascist is gonna fix nothing beyond the egos of people bothered by the other more crass fascist.
nothing but a good cop bad cop routine when in reality all cops are bastards.
…my guy, Trump wants me fired from my job and then summarily shot. Vote for the guy that doesn’t want that if you care, please.
i went through similar here and it was the “progressive” one who made it happen. capital will have their way regardless.
Uhm…yeah. Everybody is against gender affirming surgery for minors.
Contrary to what right-wing media likes to claim, it doesn’t happen.
What does happen for transgender youth is puberty blockers. That allows them to delay the hormonal changes of puberty so that they may make an easier physical transition, if they so choose, when they are an adult. In the meantime, trans girls can more easily tuck and won’t develop a 5 o’clock shadow or deep voice, trans boys will not be growing breasts or menstruating, and both retain more a more gender-ambiguous frame.
But puberty blockers have other uses besides gender-affirming care, and they’ve long been proven incredibly safe and non-permanent.
While I can see that early intervention with puberty blockers would help transgirls, it seems like transboys would need to take something more than just testosterone to get the height growth, once they reach the age of majority. HGH, maybe?
It’s interesting how much of the language around anti-trans rights centers around 'men pretending to be women, and they entirely forget about transmen.
I’m not a doctor, but my laymen understanding is that it doesn’t stop puberty, it just delays it. So they end up going through a normal puberty, just at a later age.
Are we seriously using this as a wedge between one candidate or the other? I’d love to have full trans rights here like any other reasonable country but if the alternative is authoritarianism 2016 but with an actual plan this time then I’m not going to complain if I don’t get everything I want.
not a wedge. no wedge to be had if the current administration is already undermining it.
Okay, so you’re part of the all or nothing crowd. I’m glad the worst election year is being deluded by people that see things as only black or white. That is, if you’re not a troll. Either way, you’re doing Russia’s job for them and splintering the left further.
and you are part of the nothing or nothing crowd.
i live somewhere with free healthcare and i cant believe anything less than that is acceptable and normalized to you, let alone the cruel system you have rn. but please tell me how cruelty and genocide is worth defending so hard.
I think they’re vastly less than perfect and I don’t want any of this for Americans but I want outright fascism less.
if the line isnt drawn somewhere things will only get worse
That’d be my dog. Who is out there making policy for my dog? Show me the politician who will criminalize the people who kill their ex’s dog after a divorce and shit like that.
Dogs ain’t people. Fight me
You gonna lose.
My cat is a person.
That is still criminal, just under destruction of property.
Not good enough.
Agreed, but you can probably also tack on assault charges if the owner was anywhere nearby.
Still not good enough.
Ok well I’m not a lawyer I’m just saying what options you can look into if this happens today. I’m not commenting about whether it’s a harsh enough punishment or not
If it happens today, I can fall back on what the law calls murder by doing the property damage to the person who thought the law is all they had to worry about.
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If you do this, you wont vote, you will shoot politicians
The most vulnerable would probably be some kid in Gaza without access to clean water.
But I haven’t met them.
Can I vote for them and, if so, who do I choose?
Given the available choices, and acknowledging the realities of game theory, the choice seems pretty obvious.
Your writing style and intelligence remind me of someone I used to know…
who I fell in love with. He was very verbally intelligent and had brown eyes. I still fantasize about fleeing nuclear war and accidentally bumping into him in another country in which he has fewer romantic options due to many people affected by the war. It’s sort of a warped fantasy on many levels.
I’m nearly certain you aren’t him because of the motorcycle post. And you use Firefox and he used Macs. He probably uses Safari or whatever stupid closed-source browser comes with those systems. I never understood Macs. I should have just bought one and pretended to like it, but I doubt it would have reeled him in. I was naive back when I met him and a Windows user, so also incredibly stupid. Even if I had used Linux back when I met him, or morally caved and pretended to like Macs, he probably still wouldn’t have found me to be an appealing option, hence the fantasy of nuclear war and encountering him in a limited options situation. “I am so sad there are so few survivors from this terrible war,” I would lie, feigning dismay. (It’s a really fucked up fantasy.) You have a similar linguistic style as he did.
In any case, your logic is sort of flawed because under a game theory perspective, my vote will not matter. I am not in a swing state. Game theory looks at things from a hyper-logical decision-tree and probabalistic perspective, and no matter what I do in this situation the outcome is the same. What you wrote sounded clever, but is technically wrong.
If you mean Biden is the least cruel choice, I don’t know if you are right. Trump went to Wharton and likes tall buildings and avoiding large unneeded costs. (I’m bracing myself to be inundated with down-votes.) Trump does not show a lot of empathy to minorities, but he’s cheap. I could see him using diplomacy to end things more quickly than Biden through fake flattery, and even if there was a Potemkin village aspect to his negotiation that was ethically one-dimensional, results are results. At the same time, I don’t think Trump has any pesky mirror neurons to affect how he feels regarding suffering and death, so any success would be secondary to his self-absorption, which could still be effecacious.
But I also believe Trump is in the pocket of Putin, which could make nuclear war less likely, although he would cede to every Putin demand. This of course would wreck my fantasy of having to flee nuclear war and bumping into the brown eyed guy I’m in love with in a strange country… For various extremely convoluted reasons, randomly calling him or emailing him may not be effective. Basically many romantic rivals would have to no longer exist as a result of some apocalyptic hellscape for me to have a chance. What would be dystopia to some would be my only chance… at victory.
Ultimately I could never vote for Trump because of how he treats people. I don’t want to normalize trash culture, even rich white trash culture. I just don’t know if I would vote for Biden as a symbolic gesture. He’s great to trans people but his presidency is part of incredible cruelty and I am not sure I want to add my meaningless rubber stamp to what is going on, as though kindness to LGBT people offers some sort of political absolution for complex and unseen atrocities. I adhere to the political system as it exists with its corruption out of fear, not loyalty, and voting at all seems to be supporting something corrupt and rotten. I believe in democracy, but I can’t change the mind of everyone. In a different world in which I had ended up less lonely, I could have had the strength to change minds with words, but as it stands any voting just seems like complicity.
It’s shockijg to me this was so downvoted.
Why is it political that a child civilian in a war zone without access to good water is vulnerable?
