There was talk about the ability to link communities in the future, so that dupes show up as merged. No idea what happened of that.
There is no point to linking communities- if they are going to have identical content, just pick one or the other.
A better option would be for cross posts (using the Lemmy cross post feature) to exist as a single entity that is visible in multiple communities. This would allow for some differences in moderation which is the justifiable reason for multiple communities on the same topic in the first place.
I suggested an idea to fix this, that I called “thread entanglement”. I had suggested it for Kbin specifically, before, but honestly the base Lemmy software could use something like this. I’d love to see some sort of smart merging of duplicate threads like this be possible.
Adding this as an issue on the Lemmy GitHub would be a great idea.
As others have mentioned in that thread. It would be better as an option from the user side rather than site wide forced implementation. I hope you open a GitHub issue/discussion in the repository so the idea could get more exposure.
Well maybe if you’d block that furry shit you could at least feel better about it.
This bugs me too. There are various GitHub issues about grouping communities. As far as I know, no one has gotten to 'em yet.
I’m all in favor of several communities on the same topic as long as they offer different content
Having the same link or picture shared across several communities is just detrimental to the user experience.
Also, to avoid this, maybe we should have core communities for a specific topic (for instance unions), and then they can fork if there is a need (e.g. what happened with [email protected] and [email protected]
OP, as of now, I would just suggest to block communities that are too similar.
I only have one tech community as they seemed to all be the same anyway, I’ll reassess in a few weeks if I need to select the other one.
I just follow them all, and get all the content. Big W
The problem with blocking a community is if you block the one that eventually takes off, you miss out. I am just accepting it for now and assume it will sort itself out.
Another option would be to upvote one and downvote the other, to help speed the process up.
Your last point might be interesting, but imagine if someone else is doing the opposite, you guys would be evening out ha ha
I only subscribe to the usually most popular community in a subject I’m interested in for this reason
It’s stopping people from subbing to different communities which is probably a bad thing.
Probably, but until a solution is found it only mâles lemmy a mess and imo that’s worse
Keep in mind you can always block communities you’re not interested in to prevent them from appearing in any feed. I’ve already blocked plenty of communities to make the “All” post list digestable.
There are so many though. I’m trying to prune politics from my feed but people keep making new goddamn communities - a dozen isn’t enough, apparently - and then crossposting everything everywhere anyway.
You can also block users, which is super helpful with people that go on crossposting rampages.
Could you please share the blocked part of the JSON you get with https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim ?
That could probably help new joiners.
Why would I? The list of communities which one wants to block is very personal / individual. My preferences what I don’t want to engage with is purely mine and cannot be transferred to all other users. So any user should make their own decisions what communities they want to block, instead of blindly copying someone elses and potentially missing out on content they would enjoy.
I agree with you to an extent, but I think there should still be a default list of blocked instances that we could provide to new joiners, so that they can at least have a base to avoid the experience OP had.
Of course that would be opt-in, but at least that would ease the adoption a bit.
beeper spotted
Great app that lets me participate in the forced WhatsApp groups without having meta garbage on my phone! Love it.
What is worse is that most of those duplicates come from the same poster who are not even cross posting…
Yeah, it feels so silly, especially with there being no karma
No karma, but they want to spread their ideas.
It needs to be in the mobile apps.
If people would use the lemmy cross posting functionality it would only show up once.
Man Memmy needs that ASAP…
Indeed, unfortunately most of the mobile apps don’t implement that feature
I didn’t even realize this was a thing already. The apps need to add this ASAP, seems like a pretty vital part of making the experience smooth.
They do, but they are also developed by volunteers
I think ljdawson is working on it for Sync. I assume that’s why he held off on implementing posting.
That would make sense
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if people do cross posts, will i see the post only once?
will lemmy detect that i can see the original + 3 crossposts and show me only the original?
this is more like a feature request, i don’t think we are there yet.
we could also aggregate and sync comments across cross postings, so that the post is really just one, but posted in more than one community.
Yes, this is how it works in lemmy-ui. In this following example someone posted to [email protected] and I pressed the cross-post button and cross-posted it to [email protected]:
And if you cross post it to more then one there will be just a list of them.
if people do cross posts, will i see the post only once?
will lemmy detect that i can see the original + 3 crossposts and show me only the original?
On the website, it does
Problem is on mobile apps. If it works on website, that’s good but doesn’t solve the problem of majority of users that are on mobile.
Agreed, I said it in another comment
I’m using the website on mobile and it does do it there too:
Mobile website != mobile apps
Interestingly the title is “my biggest gripe with Lemmy” not “my biggest gripe with my app of choice”.
OP, like me, probably doesn’t/didn’t know that the website interface for Lemmy has a solution for this and it’s actually an app problem. So to OP it is a “Lemmy” gripe until we’re given more info. :)
The comment you were replying to was talking about mobile apps and not the mobile website.
Edit: took some rudeness out of the comment
Oh wow I didn’t know such thing existed on Lemmy
@[email protected] stop cross-posting to the same communities, there’s no karma!
Not sure if tagging is a thing 🤷
I’m surprised that no-one’s brought out a client that can merge communities. People properly using the cross-posting feature seems to help with this a bit.
At least if lemmy detects the same link it should view it as a cross-post automatically, even if people didn’t use the cross-post UI.
Fuck yeah! I was just thinking about this the other day. Like a singular mask for all political communities, one for pictures, etc. Almost how Gaim/Pidgin/Adium/Trillion did for the multitude of competing chat programs back in the day.
You’re not the first one, here is a open feature request from June 2020 https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/818
But my favourite implementation would be that I as a user should be able to create virtual communities where I can put in one, two or several communities into one and it would be shown like one community in my UI.
I haven’t thought of those clients in years. I feel old. Used all of them except Adium, and I think it was just a specific kind of Trillian? Not too sure, it’s kind of fuzzy.
This sentence is being uttered by me more and more the last couple weeks.
Guess I’ll be dead of old age by next month or so. Rip.
lol you better not be dead in the next month or so!
I think Adium was, or now that I’m looking at Wikipedia became the OSX(as it was named at the time) implementation of Gaim/Pidgin. Was its own thing but started getting Gaim/Pidgin stuff implemented in it. Trillian, I think, was distinct because it was a closed source commercial product whereas the Gaim/Pidgin/Adium has always been an open source free kind of deal.
Agreed, this issue really kills the fun of browsing.
I just block the accounts that do this. Make it much nicer to browse 👌
I agree, the cross-posting gets annoying. Why do people insist that everyone who is interested in a certain topic needs to participate in their post, so it has to go on every community?
People did not do that on reddit. They just made one post and waited for interaction.
Moderation helps with this.
People did this constantly on Reddit, I don’t know what you’re talking about.
This is the natural effect of the core structure of this platform.
And it’s only going to get worse as the user base increases and instances start to defederate one another due to differences in acceptable content and conduct.
I know saying anything the least bit critical of Lemmy means lots of downvotes, but the whole system seems far too prone to fragmentation and the repetition necessary to make up for it.
The whole appeal of Reddit was that it was a one stop shop for key discussion on the topics you were interested in. No matter how many similar communities popped up there was usually one subreddit that was the spot for a topic, and other similar ones were only viable if they focused on a specific niche. Here, it’s completely possible that there might be 20 communities on exactly the same subject that have 90% of their content overlapping…and you have to be subscribed to all of them if you want the extra 10% of unique stuff they bring to the table.
The dream was that each instance would bring something different so the collective would be a mosaic of unique(ish) communities
The reality is that each community is an overlapping subset of the communities defined by the social sites like Reddit, going all the way back to Usenet groups
there were tons of cross posts on reddit, it’s just that they usually weren’t visible on the front page as such
The cross posts on reddit were terrible.
Same fucking post on awww, upliftingnews, mildlyinteresting, bustypetite, etc
It’s more that every sub had much different levels of activity so one repost would get attention while another dwindled.
The issue with Lemmy is activity is not centralized so each individual repost sees roughly as much activity as the other, so as far as sorting goes, they’re all considered to be as equally active, i.e. “Hot”. It’s all kind of flat line across communities.
We just need more activity, more people, more voting, making making more posts.
