It’s just super frustrating seeing people who are supposedly my brothers and sisters, who I’ve been there to the hilt, who know that my partner is struggling, who know that I’m terrified. We’ve gone through the science and racial and class inequalities together and they’ve voiced how they should mask a hundred times. And then they come to meet me IRL totally fucking unmasked, without even a fucking apology.
Well, if you’re “back to normal”, I’ll sit and watch you eat outside, but I’m not taking my mask off in front of you. I’ll wait till you finish your meal, and I’ll head home early. If I’ve complained about no masking two times already, you heard it enough, I’m not going to complain again.
Am I overreacting?
Edit: for those of griping that you’re not allowed to do COVID minimisation in this comm. These would be valid answer:
- Maybe your friend forgot
- Maybe your friend was tired
- Maybe your friend was hung over
- Your friend made a mistake but you should forgive him
- I’m not yet fully covid conscious, but I’m trying
- We can’t all be perfect. Hopefully they do better next time.
Not acceptable:
- Oh here’s a tidbit about masks that’s been disproven in the science literature 10x already
- Oh the chuds and libs aren’t masking, and I feel peer pressured
I totally thought this was going to be about hiding your lefty power level and not literal masks because i never read what comm things are posted in
Lol I do that too. I have a lot of socdems in my org who are getting into Marx for the first time, or reading Chomsky. God I want to push Lenin and Parenti on them.
As long as Covid is around you are right to be disappointed. I will always wear a mask
Yes. Most people stopped masking ages ago.
fuck those people and fuck you
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Do the immunocompromised around you matter? What about those that don’t want long COVID?
I misread it as a sincere question.
“most people [in Amerika] stopped doing something”, is not a justification. I accept real answers, but silly answers deserve a proper response.
Why are you bringing up America?
Because non-Western countries do social care way better than the centre of the empire. Masking is still pretty normal in much of Asia and Africa.
Haven’t seen anyone masking in Africa since 2023
https://www.chronicle.co.zw/face-masks-are-backpublic-takes-measures-to-curb-flu-outbreak/
Edit: you are in Africa??
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Coming from someone who’s flirted with giving up entirely in the past: You’re wrong and should re-evaluate why you think this. Being outside tends to improve ventilation but it’s not a silver bullet. If one wishes to avoid covid infection, then not eating at the same table, only a couple feet away, from a person who’s been taking zero precautions, is a risk. Walking in the park, sure probably no need to mask there, it’s usually easy to maintain some distance and you don’t have prolonged contact with anyone, but sitting at the same table for an hour is not the same as that. But if say, there was a festival going on in the park and you can’t avoid the crowds, masking becomes necessary again if you want to maintain a low level of risk. It’s highly situational.
Just because you don’t want to do it doesn’t mean nobody else should or that there’s no reason to.
No you are not.
If you think diseases don’t exist outside you’re fucking stupid
Worthless NEET covid refuses to touch grass
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Honestly, if its people that know your situation and you’ve pointed it out multiple time and they still go meet you unmasked, then no. Its not weird to be disappointed.
Masking is definitely a niche thing now, but dammit, it should be our niche. We should be proud of taking care of each other.
Of course, masks as a symbol of non-sanctioned solidarity will result in more public mask bans like here in NC, but defying shitty laws is cool and good
I can understand the sentiment that Covid is “over” since absolutely nobody takes it seriously or takes any preventative measures now. The media has completely stopped reporting on it and the CDC has even stopped counting COVID related deaths. Society seems to have decided to just move on, consequences be damned.
However, it still hurts every time I hear people completely dismiss it as a thing of the past when my own mother fucking died from it just six months ago. Yeah, please let her know that it’s over and not to worry, that’s what killed her. Sure, the average young healthy person has been vaccinated and/or already had it multiple times so it’s no big deal to them but there are still a LOT of other at risk groups that could easily die. It’s not like the virus has been eradicated, we’ve just collectively decided that those people’s lives are worth less than going to a packed Taylor swift concert.
So no, it’s not unreasonable at all to ask your friends to show some basic fucking respect and wear a mask around you and your partner. People are still dying from covid every day so I don’t question the validity of your concern in the slightest. If your friends are actual comrades and capable of understanding the way Covid deaths have been politicized perhaps a gentle reminder that the current administration is doing its best to sweep ongoing Covid deaths under the rug to give Biden a “win” would help
I’m so sorry about your mum. Ya COVID was the thing that killed my father. I just assume that it was the family Christmas that did it.
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hey friend you know what lowers that risk significantly?
wearing a mask
is a psychological cost to not letting go of the fear of Covid
That’s a really clever way to blame those with legitimate fears, including serious health problems.
in so far as those precautions are unlikely to really save anyone
If you had an asymptomatic infection, and mask, you’d be saving those around you and those who live with those around you.
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You’re asked to put a mask on in crowded conditions. All that is irrelevant.
I fear for my health and safety, and my families health, when someone comes near me, indoors, unmasked. I’ve given up so many activities since the unmasked people started joining even when we had mask mandates. So if you’re cool with terrifying and threatening others, go on. I guess I can’t force empathy on you.
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I can ask a question and yet push back against bullshit. People’s lives and health is literally at stake.
Even if the entire crowd were masked, iirc with delta or omicron transmissibility that ended up with, what, ABSOLUTE BEST CASE <2 hrs before it’s likely to have transmitted anyway? And that data iirc was just between two people
That is aggressively ignorant and you should selfcrit immediately for saying something so dangerous. The room is large, air moves around, there are higher quality masks. Why are you arguing against sound and well proven medical advice?
That’s all the effort I’m putting into debating a lib answer.
This lib take is kind of flirting with the rules of this comm I think.
If you feel that something violates the rules of this community, report it.
Sorry for all the work I’m making you do. And thanks for making this a safe community.
Fair, I was more so making it known to the poster that they may want to back off this hill. Too late tho, haha.
I am not asking you to wear a mask when you’re outside taking a jog, but wearing a mask in high-risk situations (crowded or poor ventilation) such as schools, public transit, and concerts can significantly reduce your risk of infection, and you should consider doing it.
Not getting sick protects your friends and family from getting sick. It is a social responsibility that other societies practice but our own society has forsaken since 2022.
I do not think there is a psychological cost to fearing COVID, because the fear is rational and justified (especially for in immunocompromised people). Fear is an emotion that keeps you away from danger. One way to keep yourself away from danger is to wear a mask and to avoid high risk situations whenever possible.
Personally, I will not stop wearing a mask until COVID is eradicated in my area. The long-term risks of COVID infection are simply too high.
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No absolutely not. I think unless they’ve done something really egregious to you though, it’s not worth getting too angry about. We all know the amount of propaganda we’ve been subjected to regarding Covid, the absolutely massive push to sweep it under the rug. To some degree I think you can understand why they’re not masking anymore, even while understanding that it’s wrong and dangerous and unprincipled.
Obviously if they’ve been really egregious about not masking around you and disregarding your (or your partner’s) boundaries though that would be another thing, and a little more anger is justified.
Fair enough answer. I’m trying to be chill about it.
Yeah I think the word you used, disappointment, is a good one. I’ve been having to come to terms with that in my own life, people who have not necessarily been horrible to me, but in whom I’m very disappointed and surprised honestly in their lack of principles. My relationship has changed with a lot of people, and honestly there are a ton of people in my life who I now feel like I can’t trust.
That classic parenting phrase - “I’m not mad, just disappointed” - is a good way to sum up how I’ve been feeling
Is there something else going on or is it just COVID?
Oh no I’m mostly just referring to covid
It definitely woke me up to what kind of people they are. I used to be the kind of guy that was nice and cool to everyone, and COVID definitely made that go 180°.
yikes mask off
NOPE! While I try not to actively show it, I do harbor resentment towards my friends who have gone “back to normal”. The main difference is that my friends are mostly libs, so its not unexpected or surprising, but still frustrating and sad.
While I try not to actively show it, I do harbor resentment towards my friends who have gone “back to normal”.
This is exactly me. Although I did have a small community of left people who all masked, but it seems to be deteriorating. Now the only one I can trust is my partner. I guess I’m lucky in that regards.
Yup, my partner is also the only person that is on the same page as me. Neither of us will do indoor dining at restaurants, we mask in pretty much all public areas, we are still buying tests and using them when we feel off… The next closest people are out best friends, but even they will go to a restaurant on occasion. However, at least they respect our stance and will accomodate and understand our positions.
The world seems to be shrinking and I am lucky enough to have a partner who agrees with me, I’ve seen couples that are at odds with each other over COVID and I don’t really understand how they overcome that. Not only the COVID part, but the fundamental differences in general at that point…
I recommend Death Panel’s episode about that whinging NPR COVID “perspective”. There are literally dozens of us out here still masking.
Your relationship and my relationship is pretty much the same. I wish we were in the same city to hang out.
Would love some more COVID conscious friends! I am actually moving farther away from my closest city now too, so hopefully that helps me.
I don’t think it’s weird to be disappointed, but also any other answer is going to get removed according to the rules of comm
any other answer is going to get removed according to the rules of comm
Some real
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Anyone out there who has gone “back to normal” when:
- Covid obviously isn’t over and researchers are out there pointing out we’re heading towards disaster.
- We watched them sociologically end the pandemic in real time at the request of businesses, completely at odds with science.
- Immunocompromised folks are literally out there begging people to mask and not abandon them the way the government has.
Is a
Full Stop.Thanks for your response. And obviously I agree with you. It’s just harder when I see leftists (MLs, Trots, Anarchists, etc) pull this. I just have much higher standards for them.
Welcome. As you should. These people are deeply unserious and should be ashamed of themselves.
Everyone in the west is still susceptible to the liberal ideology of good vibes and tasty treats at any cost. Most of the people I know would spread COVID if it meant they get to go to a shitty bar or boring movie theater.
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They’ve accepted the lies of our enemies. Propaganda of a Class War that’s telling them they’re expendable fodder for the wealth of the Owners. Have you, as well? Are you and they disposable? I sure don’t fucking think so.
researchers are out there pointing out we’re heading towards disaster.
Do you have anything to link so I can read further?
From the Guardian Last March
‘Alarming’ rise in Americans with long Covid symptoms
Some 6.8% of American adults are currently experiencing long Covid symptoms, according to a new survey from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), revealing an “alarming” increase in recent months even as the health agency relaxes Covid isolation recommendations, experts say.
That means an estimated 17.6 million Americans could now be living with long Covid.
“This should be setting off alarms for many people,” said David Putrino, the Nash Family Director of the Cohen Center for Recovery From Complex Chronic Illness at Mount Sinai. “We’re really starting to see issues emerging faster than I expected.”
Most people are eventually going to get brain damage from Covid
Covid, long term, seems to pretty much attack whatever weakness you’ve got. Cancers, Heart Issues, whateer, even stuff like Parkinson’s.
Kids can get Long Covid
Study: Kids with long COVID have impaired exercise capacity | CIDRAP
Dogs (and probably other pets) can get Long Covid and if you check Google News, there’s been a mysterious respiratory virus going around amongst dogs that if it wasn’t covid related was probably immune disregulation related from covid.
Neurologic Effects of SARS-CoV-2 Transmitted among Dogs - Volume 29, Number 11—November 2023 - Emerging Infectious Diseases journal - CDC (cw: animal testing)
Very useful resource. I’ve saved this comment for future use.
Word, there’s much, much, much more out there obviously. This is mostly stuff I’ve posted here before. Raw studies rarely get as much activity as a rage inciting news article trying to erase reality.😅
I gotta say, you’re one of my favourite posters on the covid comm. Thanks for everything you do.
One thing I’ve really woken up to is how mainstream media twists science research. This is probably obvious to us now, but it still shocks me how boldly the NYTimes and BBC demonstrate that their main job is ideology, not conveying information. We’re seeing this now with trans health care, a lot of terrible research is being amplified and good research is being ignored.
Aww, shucks. Welcome and thankya. Means a lot!
Ah, yeah. I’ve a compsec background so I’ve always been fascinated by how information flows through the world and when I discovered the concept of manufacturing consent it was like a lightbulb going off. Still haven’t read the whole book.😅 But knowing about it and watching the Bolivian coup happen in realtime and how our media and politicians responded to it was a big eye opener for me. And yet! For a hot minute i was still naive enough to think they were gonna do the right thing for Covid.🤦♂️
I used to love Chomsky, but I think he’s really boring now. If you’re gonna read Manufacturing Consent, I’d say go Inventing Reality by Parenti instead. He’s such a better writer.
I’ll see if I can find you some actual studies when I’m at my desktop, but pretty much every legit article on long covid ends with a researcher trying to get people to wake up to the fact that everyone is going to get long covid and we’re heading towards a future of healthcare collapse.
Even Bloomberg, while still in denial about the cause, can’t hide that mass immune disregulation is happening.
