I think… Legally, when SCOTUS is involved. By law, it should have an even number of dems and Republicans at all tumes
We need to hold the supreme court accountable.
with ropes
It’s ok, the the president can now just have them assassinated as a defence of the constitution.
Blatant misinformation and a fundamental lack of understanding of the ruling. Nothing changed. President cannot commit a crime and say it was in official capacity. Obviously.
“Official capacity” has not been defined yet so we don’t know what the limits are. We will have to wait and see.
I can’t believe how many (I don’t know, shills?) there are about this.
I’m not American, I’m sitting out side, looking in, and watching the USA become a fascist dictatorship, and I’m terrified.
Every other democracy’s right wing looks up to the USA for inspiration for their own fascist agenda.
If this all goes sideways from Americans, we’re following shortly afterwards.
And you have all the reasons to be terrified, the US in case of a Trump victory will either:
a) Go isolationist, dissolve the NATO, then let the power vacuum to be filled by Russia and China (one is better than the other), all while a big ultranationalist movement will claim to fix the issues.
b) Make whatever insanity Trump’s christofascist call “morals” into the global standards for human rights, heavily censor the internet, etc.
A second Trump victory will have dire consequences for the rest of the world.
Just like “nothing changed” when Roe was overturned? Got it.
If the President can communicate with the DoJ or VP, even about doing something illegal or as part of some illegal scheme and be immune to prosecution because being in contact with the VP and DoJ are part of his duties, why would talking to the CIA to ask them to “retire” SCOTUS justices not be an official act that’s immune to prosecution?
Does that immunity ruling also apply to the VP? If yes, then Kamala Harris can do a few things, all she needs is a fully loaded handgun.
Shooting political rivals probably isn’t an official act, but presumably he could ask, she could shoot and he could pardon and I think it would be untouchable?
Your claim is this ruling changed nothing?
That’s not what the dissenting judge said.
The dissent said the president can now assassinate someone. The president enjoys no such authority, and therefore, the dissent must be discarded as not a serious opinion.
You’re delusional.
Funny, that’s what I think about all the people clutching their pearls crying democracy is dead because of this ruling.
I think that’s a classic symptom of delusion TBH… everyone else is nuts and you’re the only person who sees things how they really are.
We should definitely trust the 1 day old Lemmy account over the dissenting judges.
FUCK YES
WHY DOESN’T BIDEN IMMEDIATELY USE HIS NEW POWERS TO DO IT
WHY DOESN’T BIDEN IMMEDIATELY USE HIS NEW POWERS TO DO IT
WHY DOESN’T BIDEN IMMEDIATELY USE HIS NEW POWERS TO DO IT
WHY DOESN’T BIDEN IMMEDIATELY USE HIS NEW POWERS TO DO IT
WHY DOESN’T BIDEN IMMEDIATELY USE HIS NEW POWERS TO DO IT
WHY DOESN’T BIDEN IMMEDIATELY USE HIS NEW POWERS TO DO IT
WHY DOESN’T BIDEN IMMEDIATELY USE HIS NEW POWERS TO DO IT
WHY DOESN’T BIDEN IMMEDIATELY USE HIS NEW POWERS TO DO IT
It’s because the sad fact of the matter is that both of our political parties are working together to fuck us.
I don’t know how else to interpret this.
is biden better than trump? yes. am I voting biden? yes, there’s no other real option. is he a feckless snivelling coward that only cares about people if they offer him a chance for power? yes. does he actually intend to do anything to improve our country and stave off a christofascist totalitarian takeover? hell no he doesn’t lmao
he won’t do a good god damn thing if the corporations who have their fists up his ass don’t force him to, and they don’t give a shit about any of this because when it all turns red come inauguration day, regulations and protections will be stripped away and they’ll have no restriction on how they can abuse us and our planet for their own gain.
he has this new power, and just like with the power he holds now, he won’t do anything with it that will actually move the needle and improve quality of life for anyone unless it serves his interest. the next guy will use it though. bend over, y’all.
Cuz hes a milquetoast coward. He shoulda packed the court day one.
*unpacked, by expanding it to 13 minimum, 15 for good measure. But yes.
The time has come
The president cannot impeach them unilaterally, and is explicitly out of his power.
He could, however, potentially send them to a blacksite as a prisoner or conveniently kill them as part of that arrest. They could claim collusion with domestic terror groups, espionage, corruption, etc, as very plausible justification for arrest, and that would probably qualify as official duties, at least how this SCOTUS would classify the same actions if executed by a republican president.
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I mean… in his place I’d probably make them think I was going to do it to see if it would change their mind.
Lol we are so fucked.
“Hey everyone, things are NOT going our way in the Supreme Court, and we need to change everything about our judicial, political, and constitutional system!” - Sincerely, Democrats.
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Articles of impeachment is fine as this process stinks and I think this court failed, but we really, long-term, we need a constitutional amendment to make it clear that this is not okay.
I love the constitution, wonderful framework, but it needs the following amendments:
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Anti-corruption measures on the judiciary (looking at you Thomas). Provide some teeth to enforce recusal and avoid conflicts of interest.
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Term limits for justices and age limits on all elected/appointed officials at the highest level (justices, pres/VP, congress). Tie those to either the retirement age or a percentage of life expectancy (as we get older as a society, and work into our later years, federal officials should be able to remain longer too).
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Divestment requirements for all federal elected and appointed officials. i.e. no more insider trading, sorry.
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Replace the electoral college with a popular vote.
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Replace the filibuster with nothing. Fuck that thing. Let the legislators legislate. If, whatever it is, is a bad idea, it’ll be shown to be a bad idea and the next congress will fix it. This is especially important now that Chevron is no more. The court just replaced rules created by executive offices with the most dysfunctional branch of government (congress) without any prospect of undysfuctionalizing themselves.
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Congress shouldn’t be allowed to block supreme court justices without a vote. Once they are announced, they have X days to approve/deny or they are auto-approved.
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(edit) I can’t believe this has to be done, but the President is not above the law. The president must follow the law while in office, following “official acts” or not. This is a fucking democracy, not a dictatorship.
While I know there are other ways to approach a lot of these and those ways are easier is not the point of my post. These are things that the constitution is currently WRONG about and it should just be fixed.
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Yes please.
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The way you framed this is dangerous as conservatives already want to eliminate retirement so everyone who is not rich has to be a wage slave until death. This just gives them incentive.
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You will just create a shell game. Their spouses or children or cousins will just suddenly become amazing at trading. Or that weird company that incorporated in the Maldives with Fred Flintstone and Betty Boop as the board of directors will be doing weirdly well, but be out of the reach of the DoJ.
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- Ranked Choice voting, fixed that for ya.
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This one I have mixed feelings on. The spirit of the filibuster is good. Its purpose is to allow a minority, or even a single legislator, who feels so strongly about a proposed law to actually fight it. This purpose has been perverted, obviously, but that purpose is important for a truely functioning democracy. The ability for someone who actually sees something nobody else does to pump the brakes is vital. That said, I do believe there need to be severe consequences to doing what is effectively trying to break the legislative process over your knee. Personally, I believe that it should be the nuclear option. If you break that glass, you nuke your whole career in the process. No person who utilizes the filibuster is allowed to hold ANY public office for the rest of their life. Anyone who signs on as a supporter is allowed to hold federal office. Period. If you feel SO strongly that the passing of a law is either abhorrent to your beliefs or is fundamentally flawed in a way that will forever scar our way of life that you feel it is necessary to pull the emergency cord, then you need to have that cord available.
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Yeah, and voting is mandatory. I’m not sure if I would allow abstention, but your ass has to mark something down for sure.
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I hate that this has to be listed as well. 😮💨
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fair point, agreed. I typically like things that move with changing times so the same logic works in 100, 200 years. Ages are more static than dollar amounts. Not tying the gas tax or minimum wage to inflation or cost of living has put us in a major bind, which is what I was thinking about.
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Let them play that game (and hopefully get caught). Better than the in-the-open shit they do now. At least try
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I’d rather it not specify so we can play around changing it with laws instead of having it hard coded in the constitution. There are ones that I like even more than straight ranked choice. Just get rid of the EC, though maybe just dictating ranked choice would be the right move.
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If we’re asking for things that will never happen I would like a unicorn that shits Lucky Charms
This is a “should happen” list not a “will happen” or “could happen” list. No delusions here, just felt good to say it out loud, given today’s news. I’d also take that unicorn. My kids would go bananas.
General Mills added unicorn marbits in 2018, so this sounds appropriate!
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I’d like AOC to resign for voting to stop the rail union from striking.
‘Primaries and midterms don’t matter’. Lol.
Get out and vote, people.
the democrats literally cancelled their effective primary and selected Biden. Remember Tulsi Gabbard? They won’t let her run cause she’d fucking win, same as Sanders. It’s a one party state, and it’s not subtle
That’s simply not true, Tulsi Gabbard had the opportunity to submit her name to the primary election after getting enough signatures just like Dean Phillips and Marriane Williamson did.
She didn’t even do that, the most basic step of trying to become president, I wouldn’t blame the DNC for her not bothering with the basics.
Fucking ostrich.
During a Fox & Friends interview on March 6, 2024, Gabbard was directly asked about serving as Trump’s vice-president. She responded, “I would be honored to serve our country in that way and be in a position to help President Trump…” In March 2024, Gabbard was cited by Trump as one of his potential choices for his vice presidential running mate.
Seems like you’re the one who isn’t paying attention
Not only did she not even apply for the Democratic Nomination, she seems more inclined to being Trump’s VP than a possible democratic nominee.
You think this changes anything or invalidates what I said?
People have been saying that for years. Why not make voting something we don’t need to get out to do though? I think it’s ridiculous and frankly anti-democratic to only count votes from people that travel to a polling station in the 21st century.
A lot of states have mail in voting
Voting gives us no control with the current party system. We need ranked choice voting, end campaigns and advertising. Only 1 website will have the candidates and their platforms, tax funded only, anyone who wants to run can run and ranked choice voting will make the actual most popular acceptable candidate win.
Yes, but until we have rcv, we make do with the system we have, flaws and all. Unless you’re suggesting we don’t vote at all because we are unhappy with the system…?
They should not only be impeached, but charged with 340 million counts of violating the civil rights of the American people (multiplied by dozens of rulings). Life in prison for those criminals.
You go get 'em, AOC. Personally, I’d like to see the Declaration of Independence rewritten so that it doesn’t give this false impression about our form of government and kings.
I’m a little confused. Isn’t their ruling just a deferral back to lower courts?
They didn’t grant him absolute immunity, they just reaffirmed the incredibly broad language in Article II Section 3 of the Constitution.
They’re not giving him immunity for everything he did as president, they just aren’t interested in being the authority that decides what is or isn’t an “official act”. They are letting lower courts decide that.
If there’s something I’m missing here, I would love to know, but it feels like people are misunderstanding this decision en masse.
Like seriously, I’m tired of whining on the internet about this shit. Where can I go to learn about joining a protest? It’s better that doing fuck all by tut-tutting the establishment hellbent on fucking us over while they count their money.
