I’m new to the bidet scene, and this one has me slightly confounded. Should I install a new towel rack next to the toilet? Should my wife and I share the towel? Do you wipe first? There are so many unanswered questions in the ways of bidet-ing!
a sheet of TP or drip dry.
follow-up question. how do you deal with ice cold water in the pipes? do you have to turn on the tap every time you sit down to get the hot water going?
Mine heats the seat and the water with electricity. They are not so much more expensive but what a comfort, especially in the winter.
refer to it as bracing and pretend I have a high constitution
You get used to it. Only the fancy ones have hot water at all. Cold water is just fine.
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I was looking at that one. But opted for the unit with cheek retraction, auto-aim, and testicle cup.
In my experience your asshole puckering because of the winter cold water is counter productive to cleaning effectively, but If it’s the only option it’s still better than just TP. You just have to do a first dry with TP (pat don’t drag) and do a spot check at the same time. Sometimes you have to go for a second round if the spot check fails
I don’t have that problem I guess
we have a standalone bidet, not the toilet bowl attachment, which is basically a mini sink, and it works like a sink in that you can regulate flowrate and temperature with the handle
An extra $10 and you can get a model that can pull from a hot water line under a nearby sink. Then you get a dial to adjust the temp.
A little extra work putting in, but worth it for folks with scar tissue from surgery etc.
To purge the line, most have a self clean that gets the water from the heater ready simply enough.
It’s gonna depend on your preferences. Around here, the water can start out around 40ish(Fahrenheit) before it bumps up a little as the water that isn’t in the pipes exposed to the cold comes along. So we’re talking a bit cold, but not ice cold.
That’s during winter. At this time of year, the water stays around 50ish, which is quite pleasant most of the time. It feels cool, but not uncomfortable.
Obviously, the temp of the water is going to depend on what the pipes are exposed to. Around here, we have crawlspaces under houses, which means you only have a few yards of pipes exposed to the air to get cold. The rest is underground, where temps stay fairly steady. If you have more exposed piping, the duration of the cold water will be longer.
So, I don’t even use the hot water at all, despite having it as an option. The regular water temp is nice for my preferences.
I bought the fancier model that can connect to the sink for hot water and never bothered setting it up, you get used to the cold water fast enough.
I honestly like it, a blast of cold water up the ass perks me up better than coffee in the mornings.
Hey there big fella.
Bidet wash first. Then tp to dry and to, well there is no nice way of saying this, check how the bidet wash did its job. Used appropriately, you should use significantly less tp than before.
This has always disturbed me. As a non-bidet user, when I have used them (a dozen or so times) an additional final sweep has definitely been required. And yet so many bidet users are adamant everything is magically 100% clean. I now just assume they’re walking around oblivious to a spot of wet mud peppered around the rim of their margherita.
You should advertise for a tutor.
Seriously, this is NOT difficult.
I think of it as being (sorta) similar to spraying and wiping down a dirty countertop. The spray alone isn’t going to get it fully clean, but it makes the wipe about a thousand times more effective at finishing the job.
Depends on the nozzle size and whether you get one that oscillates, not all are built equally. Mine is always sparkling. Can confirm this on another person, as a corollary of dating, haha.
My bidet has enough power to strip spraypaint off concrete, lol.
You bidet it clean enough, then use your hand to wash your backside, then dry.
What, and I can’t stress this enough, the fuck?
This is the case with many countries where toilet paper is cheap and shitty and will clog the hundred years old shared plumbing systems which probably drains into the same system as the rainwater drainage. They still have plumbing systems, though, so some form of bidet is still viable. So, wash with your left, eat with your right, as is common in india. Not too big of a problem, I’d say, so long as you have soap and water to wash your hand afterwards and you do a thorough job, and maybe also have a diet where you’re not shitting your brains out every time, and maybe also have a shaved asshole or something, but yeah.
I think it’s a Muslim thing
Is it?
Are we in one of these social media posts where we rediscover that a bunch of people have not been washing their bums in the shower for their entire lives and we have to carry on living with that knowledge?
This is not about the shower. There’s different kinds of bidets. Some just sprinkle your nether regions. Others are a full-blown sink for you to scrub yourself. And yet others are the so-called “bum guns”, where you’ve got a hose next to your toilet to sploosh it away.
Water on your bum is water on your bum. If the caveat is that magical built-in bidets don’t need a scrub (as much), why is your reply to my post and not the “muslim thing” guy? Wouldn’t it apply equally to both?
bum guns are the…
shit.
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YEEEEAAAHH!
Yes. Wash your hands, wash your ass isn’t as common as you might expect in North America. It also isn’t just a “Muslim thing” as you point towards. That invalidates Muslim beliefs and customs as well as reducing the pervasive and varying global cultural etiquettes around cleaning one’s self after bodily functions. A wide swath of north americans are only taught the toilet paper wipe bit.
Hey, I do get that bidets aren’t culturally well established everywhere, and even in bidet areas they don’t often come with detailed instructions, so usage habits are kinda random.
But that’s why I went to the shower bit instead. I would hope cleaning your nethers when you shower is a universal habit, or at least as much of one as washing your hands after a trip to the toilet.
But hey, maybe permanently sweaty, poopy undercarriages are just… you know, “an American thing”? I don’t know.
It’s certainly much cleaner than just spreading it with paper…
Which is like trying to wipe peanut butter off a counter top with just a dry paper towel.
People are different, some folks are hairy, some folks aren’t. I am unclear as to why this is “disturbing”.
My hot take is that everyone should be shaving their asshole, maybe even their crack. If your ass looks like someone slammed a wig in a suitcase, you need to trim that shit before extruding play-doh though it.
You cannot get that hair 100% clean, especially if shit dries in it.
Yeah no. Soap exists.
You wash your ass every time you take a shit, even when at work? :P
Most people shit the same time every day. If you just nudge your shit cycle to be right before your daily shower then all this hassle goes away
My experience has been that it makes the perimeter squeaky-clean, but obviously with a finger, you can do some digging. And if you dig deep enough, there’s always going to be mud.
And also in my experience, this digging doesn’t actually help. You’ve got a great gate down there. If the outside of that gate is clean, you’re clean. Digging out from behind that gate doesn’t do much, because new mud will push up against it pretty soon.
I personally can feel it if the water went everywhere and enough. I never had brown on the tp afterwards. You probably don’t wash long enough or too low preassure or no movement, etc.
I can see that for a beginner there are things to figure out on how to use it efficiently. Sa.e as beginner of tp usage.
You have created a mental image that cannot be undone. I hope you’re happy.
I suppose it depends if you are using it correctly or not. I’ve used a bidet all my life, and where i live bidets are a separate bowl from the toilet, made from the same materials, and virtually every household has one. I’ve never had a problem of it not cleaning enough
EDIT: Here’s an image. You can see the bidet has a kind of jet of water coming upwards with force, exactly below where you would sit. You can regulate the intensity and if done properly you can clean yourself completely https://images.app.goo.gl/6w3EMWrAk34DBwJd7
Oof what a visual
If you have mud, your gi tract is not as healthy as it could be. Bidets are not designed to clean Peanut butter of carpet
It took me a little bit to figure out, but it’s all about the “aim” of the spray. If you’re not positioned just right, it might not be washing the area completely. But when it does, it’s so satisfying seeing a clean piece of wet tp.
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Pooping solo, a roll of TP will last me a month or two. A pack of TP will last well over a year.
Gosh, I hope everyone poops solo. 🫢
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Different stokes for different folks.
no we share the bidet!
Who’s this we you speak of? 😶🌫️
whoever i’m doin’ a dooduet with
that’s why it’s called a number Two btw
Let me introduce you to the Donnerbalken.
I mean that no one else but me is using the ass loafs.
This is the way.
Realise that you can spray a few minutes before you rise from the seat (especially if someone on lemmy is WRONG, and you need to thumb a reply!)
You’ll be surprised at how little tp you’ll need!
Also, you’re allowed to repeat, jic!
especially if someone on lemmy is WRONG, and you need to thumb a reply!
🤣
like RaulDook! 🤦♂️
For anyone with a sewer system built for TP, this is an ideal workflow. Poops and poopers are not identical, and bidets are not magical. Trust but verify, friends.
Pet peeve. Whatever three-quarters of the world seems to believe, any sewerage system can handle TP. That is: real TP has almost zero fiber integrity, it literally turns to goop on contact with water. Goop that has no more structural consistency than an average pile of sh*t. If still in any doubt then just make sure to flush it in single sheets, each one will be a pea-sized ball of goop. This misunderstanding seems to be purely cultural. I’ve been to a ton of developing countries, all with the usual dodgy sewerage systems and narrow-bore pipes. Yet only some of them, notably Latin America, have the disgusting cultural norm of TP bins. The rest understand that there is a difference between TP and paper towels designed for the kitchen and your face. TP is always flushable, by design.
I thought it was natural, but it turns out TP is using PFAS so that it disintegrates as much as possible. That was kind of a bummer to learn. :/
Wtf. Just looked this up and you’re right. It seems like literally everything contains either toxic chemicals or plastics, unless you made it yourself without them.
Yeah, that was a bit depressing. The PFAS make it a lot more water soluble. My guess is that old TP didn’t break down very well at all, and was kinda splintery (or at least more paper-y).
Luckily, the bidet removes much of that as long as you don’t use TP. And for those that have bad pipes or a septic system, I think a bidet is an invaluable part of saving you lots of money, since you aren’t packing extra material down the pipes.
The cheap toilet paper can be submerged in water for like 48 hours before breaking down. So for many who only buy the cheapest, clogging pipes is a reality. Their own fault, but still.
I mean you could always just wipe your ass, leave the TP in the bowl for like 48 hours, and then flush it, but then that kinda seems unsustainable unless everyone has their own toilet and only needs to poop every 48nhours which isn’t gonna be the case in a poor country I bet.
I try not to blame individuals for the failure of systems, especially ones as exploitative and damaging as capitalism. Why blame the people who can only afford the cheapest toilet paper when you could blame the corporation that made the cheapest toilet paper clog toilets? The people with the least money have the most negative repercussions. How are they supposed to know it clogs toilets without having to learn the hard way? Why wouldn’t you assume that toilet paper would all be equally safe to flush no matter how cheap it is?
And generally, baby wipes, bottom wipes and face wipes aren’t safe to flush, even if they say flushable on the package. If they were safe to flush, you wouldn’t be able to pull out a wet sheet from the package; it would be goo.
Just use the shells
Specifically, the 3rd shell.
Jesus, if you’re trying to help, do it properly.
No, it’s a combo:
Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A
My bidet is a Japanese washlet and I wipe with toilet paper to dry.
In Italy, where the bidet is its own “seat”, we use small towels, one for each person. The ones that usually people vacationing in Italy think are for the face, they are actually for your ass. Hard to tell the difference on American tourists sometimes.
Noted
I use my “body” towel for the cheeks and toilet paper for the crack, same ad when I shower
My doubt about that is that, if you washed properly, it takes a lot of (usual 3 layers) toilet paper to dry the crack properly.
Especially because Europe doesn’t do washclothes, so as an American I had to learn VERY quickly what they were for
What do you mean we don’t use them? Those are exactly what I just described above.
In America a washcloth is a small hand sized cloth you use in the shower to clean your entire body, or your face
You mean “while” showering? With the water running?
Yep! Instead of a loofa washclothes are the thing here
Huh, that’s so random
Doesn’t it get just damp and smooth? How can you scrub properly with that?
Anyway good to know what they are for when there is no bidet in sight.
hair dryer
Upgrade to one with power. Never look back. Automatic flush, automatic seat raise and lower with a foot sensor, uv lights inside, foam/soap dispense into the bowl before and after, all the bidet features with constant and pulsing, articulating arm, heated seat, heated blow dry air, etc. It’s absolutely amazing.
Assuming you’re in the US just because the question only seems to come up there, and for our house there we imported them from Asia for less than $1k to the doorstep. Adding a power outlet is usually easy as most washrooms in the US have an outlet somewhere.
Bidet is like going to level 100 from 5. Super automatic Asian bidet is like a level 5000.
1k? Like… That’s it !?
Yes exactly! A bidet attachment plus a cheap bowl is like half of that. So it seemed like a no brainer.
Sounds like you’re living in the year 3024.
Just to second the other guy: Link? Brand? Any info to hunt this down?
I am not affiliated with them at all:
I purchased from a sales rep for the company over WhatsApp and using Alipay because it was easy. They sell their products on Alibaba as well which would give you the sales protection and all that. I’ve bought about a dozen of them so far for 3 different houses. Wonderful.
What I didn’t understand from their catalog until I got one, is that they are very modular. Basically they have a couple bowl designs, lots of lid module designs, and then a few tank designs. Mix and match them to get all the SKUs.
I got the extra large tanks in-wall with wall hung bowls and then the super awesome everything lids. So the final product installed is just a floating toilet, with some buttons on the wall above it. You walk up to it, the lid opens. You either sit and the seat is heated or you wave your foot and the lid opens for guy mode. When you’re done in guy mode just walk away and it will flush and close and clean. In sit mode press the little knob on the side and it starts the water and then heat dry. You can also rotate the dial to get articulating wash and dry action. It comes with a remote control (why?) and an lcd on top. The soap dispenser inside creates a foam that shoots down when the lid opens. I’ve never been so impressed by a porcelain throne.
This guy bidets
Got a link to this black magic you speak of?
I am not affiliated with them at all:
I purchased from a sales rep for the company over WhatsApp and using Alipay because it was easy. They sell their products on Alibaba as well which would give you the sales protection and all that. I’ve bought about a dozen of them so far for 3 different houses. Wonderful.
What I didn’t understand from their catalog until I got one, is that they are very modular. Basically they have a couple bowl designs, lots of lid module designs, and then a few tank designs. Mix and match them to get all the SKUs.
I got the extra large tanks in-wall with wall hung bowls and then the super awesome everything lids. So the final product installed is just a floating toilet, with some buttons on the wall above it. You walk up to it, the lid opens. You either sit and the seat is heated or you wave your foot and the lid opens for guy mode. When you’re done in guy mode just walk away and it will flush and close and clean. In sit mode press the little knob on the side and it starts the water and then heat dry. You can also rotate the dial to get articulating wash and dry action. It comes with a remote control (why?) and an lcd on top. The soap dispenser inside creates a foam that shoots down when the lid opens. I’ve never been so impressed by a porcelain throne.
Ryobi cordless leaf blower. You have to aim for the rim because if you hit home it makes you burp.
Actually though, just dab with TP. You’ll use much less TP and not need “flushable” wipes that still clog your main sewage line
I wonder when Dyson is going to bring out their arse-sized airblade?
Be sure to grab extra batteries and keep one on the charger. Trust me
Got a solid chuckle out of me man, thanks. Needed that.
I know you’re joking, but i think I’d enjoy a Dyson ass dryer.
Technically, why not?
Because the butthole is sensitive and repetitive exposure to heat can cause issues.
Bumhole heatstroke is a thing. Gotta be careful.
No heat, imagine just a hand holdable blower with a complimentary vacuum to suck in everything blown away. Like at the dentist. The dentist makes a mess in your teeth while the assistant uses a little vacuum tube to clean it all up.
one sheet of toilet paper
The same way you remove your shit without water
Pat dry with toilet paper
This is the way.
Did you dab? You have to dab!
Stop saying dab!
- The Venture Bros.
Dean, you gotta try this! It feels like a guy with a fever is yelling at my junk!
Yes. This prevents the tp from ripping.
Personally, TP when out and about, an arse towel at home.
Honestly, if you do the job right the towel is the right implement, in that you’re just patting dry any stray droplets left over.
For insecure bidet-ers, a preemptive TP run to verify you’re ready for a towel is a bit of insurance, I suppose.
Just… have one for each person in the household. It’s one thing to be secure in your technique, quite another to hold everybody’s destiny in your grasp.
Kitchen tissue is strong when wet. Tear that square sheet in half lengthwise (because of oriented fibers), fold each half once, and you’ll have reasonably sized pieces.
Don’t flush kitchen tissue though, it doesn’t disintegrate as toiletpaper does.
Lol the plumbers must love your stupid ass 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Rip ur sewer line lol
Just use TP. The manual (yes, I RTFM for my bidet) said that people in Europe have a dedicated bidet towel but that sounds gross. The bidet doesn’t always remove 100% before I first go to wipe.
Then, maybe you should clean it better first before wiping.
I didn’t get the add-on for my bidet that puts an IoT camera in the nozzle so you can see how much shit is still on your ass using an android app. I guess I should have sprung for that feature.
Nah, just get one with a nozzle that creates a stronger jet and also just wash longer. Or you could let hackers see your butt hole if you wanted to, nothing inherently wrong with that.
