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How are these people not named and shamed? They are just standing there in public with no mask on wearing a swastika and giving a nazi salute? And then, what, they go back to selling real estate or what…? When is this even from?
Picture is from 2010 in Knoxville Tennesee. Can’t find any other info on the girl:
Goddamn, why is it always Knoxville with the racist stuff. We’re not all bad!
Thanks for the Snopes link, that gave some more context. I still can’t believe no one figured out who she and the others are. It’s just mind boggling to me, maybe because she’s young-ish, that no one was like oh my god is that Sharon??
I mean, that someone can live and do whatever they do, show up to this event with no mask and do this, and then go back to living a normal life is crazy to me. People lose their jobs for saying something racist on camera, and this person is full nazi-ing it up seemingly with no social consequences.
Needs a snopes status for “They’re still fucking Nazis, man”
I wonder if she knows the Jan 6 girl from knoxville. Who was upset the cops pushed her out of the capitol and she got maced
Because most of them have no jobs and live off the gov. While talking shit about people who aren’t racist cock wagons, that use gov support. So they have nothing to lose.
How old is this picture? Those are some giant pixels
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Ew
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Please stop, coomer.
No.
I for one believe that she needs more than a good dickin’
But if the personalities of alt right men are as candid as every example I’ve ever seen, id say that there is a good probability that there ain’t no dickin’
Dude… Don’t put your dick in crazy. 🫤
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Lol, you’re right, Nazism sucks, and they killed a lot of people to justify how they’re better than everyone else.
And it’s only fair if we kill them as well.
Username checks out??
Dam son. You thirsty. You just need to rub one out.
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But alt right men are treating alt right women poorly!!!
we will need them until capitalism ends
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Correction:
Liberals hate Trump because he says the quiet part out loud and he is popular for it.
It’s absolutely vexing
It’s absolutely vexing
There’s absolutely nothing vexing about it at all - not if you understand the true nature of the relationship between liberalism, capitalism and fascism… which, of course, is yet another aspect of the part which shouldn’t be talked about (and I have the angry liberal downvotes to prove it, too)
A lot of projecting there from someone who probably doesn’t have enough of a problem with Trump to vote against him.
So which part of this did you think qualifies as “projecting,” liberal?
The part where you and your fellow libs have always been fine with white supremacism as long as it’s the “nice” kind?
Or the part where you won’t lift a finger to stop the overt white supremacist fascists because you know who it is that will be protecting your precious status quo when the poor start revolting?
The part where liberals are right now on phones and going door to door to try to stop Trump while you’re doing nothing except typing some inane “both sides” bullshit which does nothing to stop fascism or white supremacy.
You just want to be so holier than thou that you won’t do anything in the real world to oppose the things you claim to be against on the internet. You’re not more pure than liberals, you’re just lazy.
The part where liberals are right now on phones and going door to door to try to stop Trump
And what have they done to stop Biden?
does nothing to stop fascism or white supremacy.
And what has these self-same liberals done to stop fascism or white supremacy? Where were these liberals when antifa hit the streets in 2016 to do some actual fascism-stopping? Were they around to help BLM burn down pig-shops? No… they weren’t around - they were too busy heckling the actual left from the sidelines. Only now, when they are faced with the prospect of a fascist cosplayer who says the quiet part out loud, do they want to hysterically “do something” about it… by doing the exact same thing that got them into this mess in the first place.
Tell me, liberal… if your attempt to kick the can down the road for yet another four years come November (somehow) succeeds, what’s the plan then? If the last four years showed anything, it’s that liberal ideology has absolutely no mechanism with which to resist fascism - but it does have quite a few that allows it to ally itself with fascism… as the ongoing genocide in Gaza demonstrates.
So what then?
Say the line, Bart!
This country was built on the broken bodies of the victims of slavery, genocide, and exploitation. The soil is rotten, and the tree that grows there bears rotten fruit.
Confederate, slaver, nazi, Proud American, these are all synonyms.
That is literally every country on earth. The human condition is slavery, genocide, and exploitation, which is why we are the only species left in the genus Homo. This is not a uniquely American thing.
We are far more like ants in our eusociality, and all we can do is hopefully recognize that tribalism for what it is and try to do/be better as we move forward.
You ever see something that’s so wrong at so many points you can’t even work out where to start correcting?
she smells like onions lol
She’s a Nazi, George.
She’s in Tennessee
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Well the US was very much in love with the nazi party until it became politically inexpedient. Then they pretended they never were but didn’t actually change anything
“The US” was very much in love? NO, a lot of Americans were. But the US was NOT in love with the Nazi party. And if you mean, “when Americans realized how horrible the Nazi’s were”, instead of “politically inexpedient”, then maybe I can agree with you.
Didn’t the president have a party at the White House to show a movie titled something along the lines of “the jew problem” before WW2?
The Nazi party’s racist ideology was based off of the Eugenics movement that started in the US. Fascism has a bit of history in the US as well, besides the NYC Nazi rally.
Mussolini seemed to think that FDR was the same as him: https://italoamericano.org/the-italian-connection-roosevelt-mussolini/
Have anything to back that up?
You’re kidding, right? I mean that very sincerely, this is incredibly well documented
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The article seems to summarize events concisely and provides links to outside references. We really shouldn’t turn our nose up to any outlet trying to share information. Even if an outlet tends to be sensationalist we should pay attention to each article as they may be breaking a story, provide more research paths, or give an insight from a point of view we miss.
With that being said I know nothing of Vogue, TeenVogue, or the author. However you never know when someone cries “wolf” if it is the real deal unless you look.
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Oh I remember the story quite well. I just read it to my kids. Yes there is the responsibility of the kid to not lie, but it also the responsibility of the town to check it out even if wolf has been called several times before. The sheep feed the town, not just the child. There are multiple morals of the story.
I’ll admit I quickly read through the article and just scanned for key points and followed the linked articles, some of which were no longer valid links. The point I was trying to make was not in the defense of Vogue themselves but in the defense of news outlets that are often ignored.
I appreciate you reading the article and providing your insight into the author’s bias. I did not wish to start an argument and I apologize if I offended.
Looking at the article it’s explicitly talking about Jewish American organised crime groups and their efforts against antisemitism in the prewar period, particularly the notorious Abner Zwillman so I’m not sure exactly what you think you are doing here. They are literally talking about Jewish American mobsters.
The rally occurred when the German American Bund’s membership was dropping; Kuhn hoped that a provocative high-profile event would reverse the group’s declining fortunes.[2] The pro-Nazi Bund was unpopular in New York City, and some called for the event to be banned. Mayor Fiorello La Guardia allowed the event to go forward, correctly predicting that the Bund’s highly publicized spectacle would further discredit them in the public eye.[2]
So they were popular and then declined. Exactly what OP claimed
While Madison Square Garden had prepared itself for the presence of the German Bund, many around New York City considered the Nazi sect less welcome in their city. About 100,000 anti-Nazi protesters gathered around the arena in protest of the Bund, carrying signs stating “Smash Anti-Semitism” and “Drive the Nazis Out of New York”.[6] A total of three attempts were made to break the arm-linking lines of police, the first of these, a group of World War One Veterans, wrapped in Stars and Stripes, were held off by police on mounted horseback, the next, a “burly man carrying an American flag” and finally, a Trotskyist group known as the Socialist Workers Party, who like those before, had their efforts halted by police.[4]
If you gather a crowd of 100,000 counter-protesters, several times larger than your own rally, not sure how ‘popular’ you are.
Again, not popular anymore at that point.
To prove the point you seem to ba making, you’d need to find a quote that backs the notion they were never popular
At some point people gushed over Mel Gibson, then his crazy was made public and he lost favour. Could I take his popularity numbers from 5 years ago and pretend he wasn’t super famous ever?
Op claims they were popular for a while and then not. You seem to take evidence from the “then not” part of the story and seemingly use it to prove they were never popular
Again, not popular anymore at that point.
It was literally at the peak of the Bund’s popularity - which is pretty damning for anyone claiming that they were popular.
To prove the point you seem to ba making, you’d need to find a quote that backs the notion they were never popular
So when someone claims that the Bund was popular, citing an event, and I cite the actual details of that same event showing that the accusation of popularity is highly dubious, the burden of proof is on me.
Is that what you’re saying?
Op claims they were popular for a while and then not. You seem to take evidence from the “then not” part of the story and seemingly use it to prove they were never popular
I didn’t realize “When the biggest event they ever manage to have is outnumbered by counterprotesters 5-1 maybe they just aren’t that popular in the country” was such a huge leap of logic.
This is not what OP claimed.
Well the US was very much in love with the nazi party until it became politically inexpedient. Then they pretended they never were but didn’t actually change anything
While being popular and then having that popularity decline was part of it, they suggested that the reason it became unpopular was because that support became politically impractical. They also suggest that the US itself, not US citizens, were in live with the Nazi party. This may be an accident due to poor phrasing, but assuming that’s what they were going for, their sources only show of a small political activist group, not any governing body.
Also, the group, although the size isn’t actually reported anywhere among the sources I could find, was actually pretty small, and was mostly German immigrants who were torn between supporting their homeland and their new home. This was made more difficult a decision due to German propaganda calling for people of German descent to stand together.
Precise membership figures are not known. Estimates range from as high as 25,000 to as low as 6,000. Historians agree that about 90 percent of Bund members were immigrants who arrived in America after 1919. In Wisconsin, the most heavily German state, the Bund seems to have mustered barely 500 members, which would rule out the possibility of anywhere near 25,000 members nationwide.
Assuming that the largest reported member count of 25,000 members was correct, that’s hardly popular. The US had a population of 139 million people in 1945. This would be 0.0018% of the population. To put that number into perspective, ~12 million Americans were in military service, about 9% of the American population at the time. So the people willing to risk their lives to kill nazis outweighed this political activist group by 5000%
Dummy, highlights don’t make you blond.
Relevant for over 44 years:
NAZI PUNKS FUCK OFF 👊🏼
Don’t think I’ve seen a bigger oxymoron before… The definition of punk is being anti-authoritarian.
It’s in reference to the Dead Kennedys’ song with that same title. There was a rise in far right “punk music” along with early skinhead (neo-nazi) movement when the song was written. Nazi punks were trying to flood the scene and people were not letting them.
“Nazi punks” beat the oxymoron by being anti-authoritarian, just depending on who’s authority they reject.
I won’t tolerate any boot on any neck (except if there’s my foot in it)
Did you think this through? Seems pretty authoritarian to me (sounds like “nobody should rule but me”)… maybe it’s a quote so I don’t get it.
I like this bettrr: Und weil der Mensch ein Mensch ist, drum hat er Stiefel im Gesicht nicht gern! Er will unter sich keinen Sklaven seh’n und über sich keinen Herr’n.
(And because a human is a human, he doesn’t want a boot to the face! He wants no slaves under him, and no masters above!) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einheitsfrontlied
This wasn’t supposed to be my opinion but a nazi punk slogan invented on the spot.
I liked the mental imagery of him attempting to put a boot to his own neck.
The Nazi punks are super into yoga
You don’t get to be a German and not feel pain - a lot of pain.
As an American, you’re far ahead of many of my countrymen
But not yours to bare my German brother from across the pond.
Germany has learned ( IMO) that while nazi party rose in Germany. Germany isnt the Nazi party. The United States never learned the lessons from this historical past.
Danke
Well said. And Fck AfD. You guys keep fighting the good fight.
(bear)
