• @[email protected]
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    211 months ago

    Intermittent fasting is not just a calorie deficit, it reduces your exposure to insulin, which is an anabolic hormone.

  • @[email protected]
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    211 months ago

    While “true” at face value, it’s important to note what kind of weight loss people are experiencing.

    Many of those diets cause water and muscle loss, so while you’re losing “weight”, it’s the wrong kind of weight to lose! LOL

  • @[email protected]
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    411 months ago

    Keto works because your body burns fat when carbs aren’t available. You don’t have to reduce your calories.

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      Not entirely true.

      Ketosis a metabolic condition where fat is used for energy.

      A ketogenic diet is a diet that never makes the body leave this state (i.e. no sugar/carbs/alcohol)

      Without sugar and insulin levels going crazy the body is less likely to overeat and people stop eating more quickly. But it is absolutely possible to gain weight while on a ketogenic diet. You would just be fighting yourself. (Example… You CAN eat 12 hard boiled eggs at once… You just really don’t want to)

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      411 months ago

      Whether you burn fat or carbs doesn’t matter here, if it’s the same amount of calories.

      There are credible arguments you can make for why eating specific foods would help weight loss, but this is not one of them.

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    Keto diets don’t really create a caloric deficit. Instead, it fucks with your metabolism by inducing ketosis in conditions you normally wouldn’t. Essentially, you’re tricking your body into thinking you’re starving, which means you start breaking down fats when you don’t need to. I hear it’s absolutely miserable and bad for you, too.

    Intermittent fasting does something similar, if it’s done correctly. Shit is wild.

    • Volt
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      Close but not exactly, your body is capable of freely switching between fat or carb burning. When your body really thinks it’s starving, it will start “eating” your muscles instead.

      Fat burning gives steady supply of energy instead of the highs and lows of energy dense carbs. You feel this the hardest after lunch, on carbs you’ll often feel tired and sluggish. You don’t have this on keto.

      Switching into keto can be a miserable experience though, so you’re right about that. Once in keto it’s chill.

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      211 months ago

      The thing with keto is when overweight people start they are overeating, and so dropping carbs puts them into calorie deficit for sustaining the bodily functions. Then forcing the body to have no quick fuel availble starts ketosis.

      But over eating on keto can keep you from losing weight. Look to the traditional diet Inuit First nation that survived in the tundra on meats and fats. They weren’t in ketosis

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    2111 months ago

    For those interested, science vs is a great podcast where they review the latest research studies and interview scientists publishing papers about various topics, with all their sources cited.

    They have a few weight loss/diet episodes, and while everyone here is correct about how different food has different impacts on the body, it seems like science always concludes that losing weight comes from eating less food no matter the diet.

    So while this post may be oversimplified, if your goal is just to lose weight, it’s not wrong. Maybe not healthy, but not wrong.

    The podcast is targeted at the layman, so it’s not just boring academics talking about things, check it out.

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      211 months ago

      I think the point of the infographic is that there isnt a weight loss diet in existence that encourages a calorie surplus. Theres a literally infinite number of variables, ideologies, psychological and physiological differences as well as desired secondary outcomes that make certain weight loss diets more useful or attractive to individuals but they all share the same KEY mechanism for reducing adipose tissue as a primary goal.

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    1211 months ago

    I started dieting a month ago to lose a bit of weight. Im lazy so I dont exercise more, I just eat less. Im lazy so I dont think about what I eat so I eat everything, I just eat less of it.

    It works. I dont see why it wouldnt.

    The only deviation is eat a bit more twice a week so the body doesnt get used to a low intake and start working on low power. Though I dont know if thats even possible.

    • @[email protected]
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      111 months ago

      Same here. I generally eat decent food since I enjoy cooking but I do smaller portions and straight up avoid snacks and sugar drinks as much as possible. It’s working, slowly but it’s working and I don’t feel miserbake doing it. People keep forgetting it’s a marathon and not a sprint.

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    Various diets essentially tackle the issues of caloric balance from different sides and employ some hacks to either make you feel full with little calories or to force body to dispose of such calories more efficiently.

    At the end of the day, it’s all caloric deficit, but you can make it in different ways.

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      211 months ago

      And caloric deficit is only true on a fictitious notion of metabolism via a simplified system model of a human as a black box. As far as weight loss strategies go, calorie counting is extremely ineffective, and often leads to worse quality of life.

      If your goal is however to shame people with a highschool level understanding of metabolism by making the problem into something “simple” they are failing to do with your actively bad advice, it’s effective.

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    There are more effects on someone than the weight loss. What you eat affects hunger, hormones, blood sugar, inflammation, bowel movements, energy, and more. This graphic is reductionist to the point of being deceptive.

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      I’ve been thinking a lot lately, what if you were asking about how to hike up a mountain. Like you really wanted to get into it seriously, and learn and be prepared for the demands of the trail. What if the internet essentially just kept telling you “the only thing that matters is increasing your elevation”

      Like, yeah, that’s true in a very unarguable way. The summit is higher than the base. But if that’s the only thing on your mind you’re probably gonna make a lot of mistakes that make things way harder for you.

      Nobody told you about hiking boots, so you just showed up in flip flops? Technically you still only have to accomplish the same task of increasing your elevation, but now you’ll be miserable and about 100x more likely to just quit.

      What if the mountain path suddenly dips down before going back up? If all you know is you’re supposed to increase your elevation, you might get really freaked out and think you’re doing something wrong when you start descending.

      All of this is to say, the multitude of details are very much worth discussing in terms of weight loss. Two things can be true at once: being in a calorie deficit will result in weight loss, and calorie counting as a strategy may not work for everyone unless they have the requisite knowledge required to design a sustainable diet for themselves

      • @[email protected]
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        1611 months ago

        This applies to all these diets, not just calorie counting. “Don’t eat carbs”, “don’t eat fats”, “don’t eat processed foods” are all different ways of saying “You just have to raise your elevation.”

        They all imply there’s just one singular thing you have to do, but they’re not sustainable.

        Your conclusion is great, it’s all about designing a sustainable diet for yourself that works.

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          I generally eat keto and have for years, there’s a bit more than “don’t eat carbs” behind it. Sure, if you just want to drop weight quickly go ahead and eat bacon and eggs for 6 month straight. You’ll be miserable but it’ll work. For me, Keto was an inroad to actually understanding nutrition, how to structure eating in a way that works well, and provided a “change of scenery” so to speak that enabled me to be more conscious of my body and how it reacts to certain things. I’m not going to sit here and say it’s the answer for everyone, I just wanted to point out that this graphic is also incredibly reductionist in their description of the diets as well and that sometimes these fad diets can have a meaningful impact on peoples understanding of nutrition and how their body works

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      511 months ago

      To me it is not an informative graphic, it is a tongue in cheek one; all diets are reduction of calories

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      Yeah total nonsense.

      Keto (not advertizing it, people just eating animals are the worst for our planet) works by changing your entire body to use Ketones instead of Sugar.

      This completely changes your appetite and energy levels, also you will be in a constant state of burning fat, so pauses will immediately cause weight loss, different from eating sugar, where you have glucose and glycogen still there. this is not proven.

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        Just as a heads up, every study ever performed confirms that keto offers no additional weight loss benefits compared to any other diet when calories are equated. Something I think of often when the keto people start talking about how the magic supposedly works

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            Yeah it’s pretty wild considering how fervently people buy into it, but if you’re an evidence-driven person keto is not particularly attractive for weight loss unless you just personally enjoy it.

            Scroll down a bit, we already have someone who swears the magic is real (and CICO isn’t) because they lost weight on keto, and their partner estimated their calories to be waaaaaay higher than before starting the diet. It’s a very compelling narrative if you come into it wanting keto to be true, which is why there’s almost like a religious fervor built up around it. But it’s never played out that way in an actual study

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              My point was just tallying food calories in is a shit way to be as reductionist as the pic is being.

              Drinking straight olive oil while not being on keto is not gonna go great for weightloss, but is fine on it.

              At no point did I say the CICO diet doesn’t work but go off I guess.

              • @[email protected]
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                Right, sorry, to correct my mistake, here is what you actually said

                CICO is flatout not the mechanic used.

                My sincerest apologies for so severely misrepresenting your words. Have a good rest of your night with your olive oil shots

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              My body loves Keto, as I have some strange non-diabetes sugar issue. But vegan keto is insane.

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    Quite a biased guide.
    It imiplies that the objective of all diets is to lose weight. If that’s the intent for the guide, then it should show all diets, and all of them would have to show that they do that by creating a caloric deficit

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      1111 months ago

      The obvious intent of the graphic is in regards to dieting for the purpose of losing weight.

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      311 months ago

      Fat can also trigger parts of your system to stop craving it, so you stop trying to aquire it by overeating. There are some science articles about it.

      Staving off constant hunger can be as easy as cooking up a lentil (daal) soup that has some oil/butter in it. The lentils make you get a very full satisfied feeling in the bowel and the fats hit the part that wants fats.

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      1611 months ago

      Fat doesn’t make you fat. Overeating is generally the problem. Check out a book called The Big Fat Surprise – it’s quite a good read.

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      Because from a weight-loss perspective it doesn’t matter what you eat, only how much calories you stuff into your mouth. You could eat nothing but bacon and still lose weight, if you eat only so much that you still burn more calories per day than the bacon delivers. If you keep your portions the same size but move to food with more calories, you will of course gain weight.

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      211 months ago

      Carbs are processed first, so if you don’t eat carbs, in theory your body will burn depot fat earlier.

      You still need to eat less calories than you burn though.

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    Ate paleo for a few months a couple of years ago. Got to under 10% body fat, decent muscle growth (was working out) and had clarity of mind like never before. Can only recommend it, but I drifted back into junk food and beer.

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      Ate paleo for a few months a couple of years ago. Got to under 10% body fat, decent muscle growth (was working out

      Those results were probably in spite of the diet, if you were only on it for a few months.

      Unless you started at 30% fat and unable to do a single push up, I think you were probably already in decent shape before the diet experiment.

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        Absolutely. I was already lifting weights and was at around 16% body fat. Best thing about that diet was how it made me feel throughout the day.

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    Wrong in so many ways.

    Yes, diets primarily work by caloric deficit. But if you eat nothing but Snickers and maintain a calory deficit you’re gonna have a bad time.

    You should read up in low carb, something doctors have recommended for diabetic patients since the 1930’s, because of how metabolism works (specifically glycemic response to specific macro nutrients).

    This chart is meaningless.

    If anyone wants a better layman’s understanding, read “The Zone” by Barry Sears (a biochemist). Don’t read any other books of his, just the first one from the early 90’s.

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      Always reassuring to suggest a scientist and then say “but don’t read anything more recent”

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      But if you eat nothing but Snickers and maintain a calory deficit you’re gonna have a bad time.

      But you would lose weight, because of the deficit. It’s just that it would be very difficult to maintain that diet for myriad reasons.