did the attenders draw their guns and stop the assasin?
More likely someone fired at him in celebration in those rallies.
just saw the news at it was kinda wierd. did not seem like anyone behind him got hit and he was hit in the ear and pumped his fist after ward. They said metal detectors are used so sounds like a sniper type thing. I sorta think they likely would figure out the origin. I wonder if they have him or are after them but don’t want to update yet.
Did you see the cherry picker gush fluid and fall. I think a hydraulic line popped hit someone and police started shooting in that general direction as is usual.
It seems odd that a bullet might have grazed his ear yet not shot anyone or anything behind him. Also, the picture of his bloodied ear and the splatter make it look like the shot came from behind him.
I wouldn’t be surprised if those people sitting behind him are deceptively far away.
Apparently one person is dead, another injured. Also, the shooter has been killed by the Secret Service. (According to CBC news).
Also if it’s a sniper whyd he put his head up again?
Alert went out that the shooter was down. SS kept him down until then.
ok so they did get the shooter. Did they way if it was in front or behind?
No word on that yet, just that the shooter is confirmed dead + one other attendee, and a 2nd attendee is severely injured.
Especially at the angle he was standing. Either an amazing accident, or something suspicious. Still not sure if this wasn’t staged. The whole thing seems weird as hell.
Lots of people seem keen to jump to this being staged. That makes zero sense: Trump was already winning before this, especially with Biden (his preferred opponent) looking to hang on to the nomination.
conspiracy theorist in me sees several venues where it is Very beneficial to POTUS45 to stage this:
- finally come out as victim
- frame Biden/CIA/FBI as villains
- come out as “defiant” hero and rally support to the point where it’s a landslide win, where he would be able to go after anybody and anything he doesn’t like.
more wicked stuff comes to mind but I think above is sufficient . Fact that bullet grazed him and nobody around him in a tight setting is kind of strange, with his bravado on display with fist shaking. One can only dream for this election campaign video to be run on repe 24/7 on fox and other outlets, giving him more air time, and now that Biden asked everyone to read project2025 entire nation will be watching nothing but POTUS45. Still could be some morron that didn’t get his signature at the rally pulling out his Beretta…
Witness statement was that another attendee was shot in the head and killed and a 2nd in the forearm and hand.
sounds like, indeed bystanders been hit according to latest information. I still believe that POTUS45 would be OK sacrificing any number of people as long as it gets him power. No evidence of his involvement but entire story “smells”
There is no scenario where this helps Treason Trump. Now the entire world knows that Convicted Criminal and Sex Offender Treason Trump is so widely hated that people literally want to kill him. And now Treason Trump knows it too.
Trump was already winning before this
Do you just not understand how elections work? You don’t “win” before votes are cast.
winning in the court of public opinion
Which public? That’s their point. It’s a snapshot of people that do enter polls. I’m too fuckin busy to take time out of my day for that. But I will vote.
the republican voters, obviously.
Are you being wilfully pedantic, or do you not know that it’s possible to tell someone is ahead in a contest?
Polls are worthless now and response rates are too low to matter.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-can-election-2024-polls-really-tell-us/
Or, is this just your gut talking?
Polls have significant predictive power, especially when you poll reportedly and/or aggregate them. Which is why all political campaigns, R or D, spend literally millions running their own polling. Moreover, it’s now July, the first convention is literally coming up within days, so the excuse of being “far out from the election” no longer holds.
Totally agree with your last statement. I think I was just saying we’ll have to wait and see how this turns out.
Finally someone uses their gun for its constitutional purpose.
Like the founding fathers would have wanted
Damn this is worst case dude is going to be made a maytr for this bs.
If only he were a martyr from this, but he survived. You have to die to be a martyr.
That distinction won’t matter to him or his followers.
Stop saying “he’ll be a martyr.”
This gets touted any time any consequence could come to him. Saying this makes it a lose lose situation. Either we let him get away and do whatever or “he’s a martyr.” No. He reaps whatever consequences come to him for his actions. It shouldn’t come as an assassination, but he has to have some consequence for what he does.
He’ll make himself into one if they’re not fast enough.
His base will embrace it. The question is will the center. I know I am not, as a centrist. But I only speak for myself.
I think you’ll find the polls tomorrow the same as the polls today.
Are we placing bets on this being entirely staged?
Edit: Clearly, given the evidence now, that’s a bet I would have lost.
Yes it’s stage. Because we all know. If you going to staged an assassination. You do a head shot. 🤦♂️
It’s pretty easy to cut your ear and get blood. They do it in wrestling all time.
Dammit! So close!
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Trump is just a symptom. There’s even more deranged people coming up behind him.
A symptom ppl rally behind. Gop will hopefully tear itself apart more if he was out of picture.
That doesn’t make it ok. It also is even more of a reason to stop him.
Who cares? I’m perfectly fine treating the symptoms until we can develop a proper course of treatment.
Ugh. Why can’t we just get one win?
I love how this is a “heinous act” even though the dipshit in charge of 25 basically said theyd kill the left if they were against them
I’m so scared of its global consequences.
If only Trump had a gun, this wouldn’t have happen-
Oh wait… he’s a felon, so he can’t have a gun- but can run for president. This is America now.
He was surrounded by a lot of highly trained good guys with plenty of guns, the Secret Service, and even they couldn’t stop the bad guy, only respond to him.
(I’m paraphrasing from the second season premiere of The West Wing, but the writers were dead on 24 years ago.)
If they only had a teacher there with a gun, this wouldn’t have been a problem at all
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Is it bad that… Given everything going on with 25 and the SCOTUS ruling I consider this attempted assassination patriotic?
I’m sure that was the intent behind the act.
not at all. this is what any sane person is hoping for, not just to prevent future catastrophe, but also just to send the message to these sociopaths that there are consequences.
Thank you. That makes me feel better.
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So apparantly the shooter was Republican?
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Them letting him stand there exposed for so long to yell at the crowd was very shocking
Could chalk it up to just a bunch of RWA (right wing authoritarians) being scared of how Daddy might react to being told no.
This is the dumbest shit and we need to fucking grow up a bit. These “questions” are asinine and not that hard to explain.
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Not denying the incident was reported, but there’s a heavy insinuation here that this was set up or manufactured. If so… They needed an entire Secret Service detail, local event police and everyone standing by to be in on it. A couple hundred people are going to be involved and no one leaks it?
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“Supposed” gunman. I like how you pivot from “this is probably set up” to “ok even if it was real Trump is capable of worse”
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Again, the insinuation of an inside job here. We’re going to involve a hundred or more people and no one thought it would be a problem to kill a bystander? Or the gunman was so good he killed a specific plant? And they had a 100% success rate… No one heard the plan and thought “oh this is a bad idea” and spoke out about it?
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Big difference between deleting text messages and MURDERING AN AMERICAN to further a political agenda.
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Yes. Things happen all the time. Trump people are saying this is to distract from Biden being inept. There’s always a convenient time.
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Yes you dumbshit he was concerned about his hat because they already had the all clear. The shooter got taken out in seconds. They wouldn’t have moved Trump. And they all were saying it was all clear. Also have you ever seen people in an absolute panic? Not the most rational state. Same thing with his shoes. That’s ALSO why he took the photo op. They all dove on top of him. They figured out the shooter’s location and took him down before Trump even got up.
There’s pictures of the fucking bullet in flight. So either that was ALSO manufactured (a member of the press willingly heard the plan ahead of time and doctored a photo or they actually shot a bullet inches away from Trumps head AND captured it). But no let’s just get Trump, a bumbly ass fuck to orchestrate this perfectly. I’m sure he had it a planned to go down, and everyone covered him and he pulled out a razor blade, cut his ear, and put it away, all perfectly executed and no one caught anything on camera from any of the dozens of angles.
This shit is so fucking stupid and I’m so sick of hearing about it. These points all rely on the most ass backwards way of thinking where dozens of people are in on this conspiracy and relies on all of them bring cool with killing someone to make it good for Trump.
Get this shit outta here. This doesn’t deserve the pixels on the screen used to illuminate this nonsense. Be a fucking grown up. We’re going to have to figure out a real way to beat Trump, not pretend this was some false flag bullshit. Accept reality. Be a goddamn adult.
I’m not even saying you’re wrong for questioning, but I am saying you are wrong because the sheer volume of things that would need to occur for this theory to be even remotely possible is so ridiculous, I would consider aliens an equally plausible situation.
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It is kinda crazy seeing this being posted in a center-left political forum
It kinda gives credibility to the “Blue MAGA” label, how similar this behavior is to posts on r/thedonald back in 2016.
Maybe he was an early adopter of the Neuralink chip.
More likely a user of SSRIs.
I wonder how Trump’s public image will change after this event. Will the MAGA crowd radicalise even more? Or will he have to drop out of the presidential race for safety concerns?
Either way, the aftermath will be interesting.
Come on, bruh. He’s their god king.
interestingmore insaneTrump’s going to milk him being a victim and come out looking like he’s super tough and cheated death. Nothing could have been better for the Trump campaign than a failed assassination attempt in which Trump was hit and survived practically fine. I think things are about to get pretty bad. This is terrible terrible news for the country.
This is worse than terrible. Now Trump gets to play martyr and it rallies up his base, even the ones who were in doubt after his conviction.
And as the chaos ensues, Putin is laughing at his throne.
Yep. Absolutely fucked.
Radicalize. Every time.
May you live in interesting times.
Well, public rallies will be a no-no.
Reminds me of the George Wallace shooting
