• @[email protected]
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      I’m so tired of people shitting on Bernie for condemning the violence. This is what decency looks like, and I have no idea why people think goading on more violence will make anything better.

    • @[email protected]
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      As someone who is pretty opposite to Bernie on most issues, I would’ve voted for him had he been the nominee. But instead, I voted third party, because I honestly couldn’t stand Hilary Clinton. Bernie believes in what he says and I believe he wants what’s best for the nation (though I disagree what “best” is), I don’t feel the same about Clinton.

  • @[email protected]
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    131 year ago

    Well, we can have a little political violence, as a treat.

    The French showed us that it’s good.

  • @[email protected]
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    291 year ago

    Even though I disagree with Bernie on a lot, he is a class act. This is absolutely the correct response. It shows that he has moral integrity and stands by his principles

    • @[email protected]
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      31 year ago

      And that is why the defenders of Democracy, the Democratic National Committee, cannot EVER allow him to come even this close to becoming a candidate or any candidate.

      • @[email protected]
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        I believe he lost fairly to Biden in 2020, but the DNC 100% screwed him in 2016 to favor Hillary.

  • FlashMobOfOne
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    It’s the brick throwers that get things done, not the peaceful protesters simulating homelessness.

    • rivvvver
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      both help each other:

      If we are to learn from the successful movements of the past, we can see that all successful pressure has been the collusion of the peaceful and non-peaceful aspects of the movement, such that the peaceful party can lobby the state to concede, saying to them “now see? Wouldn’t you rather deal with me than them? Sit down and make some concessions to those suffering people.” Meanwhile, the non-peaceful protesters escalate the aggression of their actions such as to put a clock on the state.

      https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/black-flag-catalyst-the-black-flag-catalyst-protest-guide-v1-2

    • @[email protected]
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      It totally is in the US. Most politicians completely support NRA lobbyists and a best give mild lip service to gun control while the violence rages on. Did you think they gave a shit about non political violence?

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    And here we have the Paradox Of Tolerance.

    The world would be better off without people like Trump in it. I get that we don’t want to be like them in espousing violence against people we don’t like, but at the same time when you have a person who objectively will make the world a more dangerous and unstable place, along with effecting actual harm against the citizens of his own country, you can only be so tolerant.

    • @[email protected]
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      261 year ago

      Tolerance isn’t a paradox; it’s a social contract. Trump broke that contract on Jan 6 and is no longer protected by it.

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          The problem with most paradoxes is that they’re strawmen.

          Let’s look at the Wiktionary definition of Tolerance:

          1. (uncountable, obsolete) The ability to endure pain or hardship; endurance. [15th–19th c.]
          2. (uncountable) The ability or practice of tolerating; an acceptance of or patience with the beliefs, opinions or practices of others; a lack of bigotry. [from 18th c.]
          3. (uncountable) The ability of the body (or other organism) to resist the action of a poison, to cope with a dangerous drug or to survive infection by an organism. [from 19th c.]
          4. (countable) The variation or deviation from a standard, especially the maximum permitted variation in an engineering measurement. [from 20th c.] And as sugar on top, the etymology: From Middle French tolerance, from Latin tolerantia (“endurance”), from tolerans, present participle of Latin tolerō (“endure”).

          So tolearnce isn’t some omniforgiving quality, it’s the quality of “I don’t agree with you, but am prepared to endure up to a reasonable point”. This simple check at what the word means renders the paradox moot as the formulation of the paradox implies tolerance to be an infinite amount of forgiveness when it’s in fact a very limited amount of enduring things. And this limitedness is present in all uses of the word, be it in politics, engineering or medicine.

  • Lad
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    Now let’s see who Trump blames for it

    • @[email protected]
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      101 year ago

      This literally applies to any US president, or rather any political leader anywhere. Stop trying to justify violence.

      • @[email protected]
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        131 year ago

        Stop trying to justify violence.

        Literally what you’re doing, except you’re justifying violence against millions, while we’re justifying violence against the handful that perpetrate that violence against millions.

        We are not the same., and you definitely don’t have any moral high ground.

        • @[email protected]
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          Wtf are you even talking about? There’s a very big difference from bad policies and what this is. For example, Obama involved the US in the Saudi Arabia led coalition against the Houthis in Yemen, and this one policy led to the deaths of tens of thousands. Does that justify somebody trying to assassinate Obama? No, of course not. Bush started two wars, does that justify somebody trying assassinate him? No, it doesn’t. Biden, is helping Ukraine defend itself from Russia which has also led tens of thousands to die, does that justify assassinating him? Again, no.

          If you want to bring any of them to face justice, that’s fine, but it has to be been done through our justice system where they go through trial… like we did with Trump. We can’t start a precedent inside the country that legitimatizes and normalizes political violence to achieve political violence at the cost of our democracy. That is the reason why everybody was in uproar over Trump’s Jan 6th insurrection. The democratic process has to be maintained, the peaceful transfer of power has to be preserved, and civil society has to be protected. We can’t have self righteous assholes going around on terrorism crusades killing anybody they don’t like. This is common sense, it’s insane that I have to even defend such a position.

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    What a fucking joke.

    People love to talk big, but when someone actually takes action against a self declared actively power seeking fascist (I’m not entirely convinced anyone was actually shot today, or that it wasn’t a hired sniper doing exactly what they were paid to do - miss), they run back to authority with their tail tucked firmly between their legs.

    Fuck this bullshit.

    Political violence has actively and continuously been enacted by white supremacist patriarchal capitalists against the working class and marginalised people for centuries. Fighting back in self defence isn’t what’s unacceptable.

    Lets say he was shot, the only problem anyone claiming to be an antifascist should have with it, is that the shooter missed.

    When people tell you who they are, no matter how “lovable”, you better listen.

    • @[email protected]
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      Yep, always been a Bernie fan so it’s hurts to say this but

      Bernie is an absolute pussy with this take

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        141 year ago

        Bernie is a politician, and obviously has to give the politically correct response. He doesn’t exactly have much choice.

  • @[email protected]
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    Why be nice to him? He was never nice to anyone he didn’t want money from or to have sex with in his entire life