Every time someone cries about how teachers today are so underpaid and disrespected and nobody supports them, I just want to say that maybe it’s because all of those kids who grew up constantly abused by the school system grew up into parents, taxpayers, and lawmakers who have a distrust in the whole mess.
I’ve had awesome teachers. I’ve had just as many really shitty teachers though. And lots of simply mediocre. I totally support higher wages for teachers, but honestly less in sympathy for today’s teachers and more to make it a viable career choice and attract some actual professionals. So many teachers seem to only want the job for the authority (over kids? I don’t get it), and only get it because the school district is desperate.
I don’t know if raising wages would fix the problem, I just know that it would increase the pool of applicants, allowing the school district to be more selective.
So higher wages, better working conditions, and in exchange maybe be held to a higher standard of professionalism?
That would never work!!!111111
If you don’t get it, then you are succeffull human being.
Lawmakers know perfectly how uneducated massess are batter than educated ones. and the best way to make ppl hate educating themself, is to create school system as we see it.
– Teachers are paid a shitty salary
– Most teachers end up being shitty
Truly a mystery. If only we had some decent teachers so someone could figure this out.
I’m for sure in this boat. I can’t think of a single teacher from highschool that has a positive impact on my life. All of them seemed to not give a shit and a few seemed to genuinely hate their job and students. At least that’s what I remember.
I will say now that I have school age kids its difficult to not impose my feelings about teachers on them, but I see the same shit I got growing up 20 years ago.
Maybe the shit was on your own shoe
OP was probably saved by that final exam score. Judging from the opening from the text, it seems they were not putting much effort into the class. Sometimes a teacher needs to be stupid for a student to realize they can be smarter.
Maybe if they took 30 seconds to explain to me why I still needed trivial busywork instead of just failing me when I got 100 on every test because the material wasn’t at all challenging, I would have done better 🤷🏼♀️
Fucking people over when they’re objectively right definitely does not improve engagement or effort.
Yeah, that was me in school. Never did homework, but aced the tests. A few teachers made me take tests sitting next to them because they thought I was cheating.
Well if you give the teacher nothing to properly judge you by, it’s not unexpected for them to judge you incorrectly.
The fine line between being put on a podium for being gifted (and thus getting bullied), being severely mistrusted because your genius shows up inconsistently (and not getting diagnosed ADHD), and getting victimized by a teacher because you unintentionally brought light on their own mediocrity (because you’re autistic).
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Personal experience says there is no line there. It can certainly be both -_-
OP should stop being a sore loser
Skill issue, have parents that can afford a better school district.
Had an English teacher do kinda this to me once. We presented our research paper to the class, teacher tells me the birthday of the dude I’m presenting on, I correct her like; “bitch, dis my mf research paper! I know my dudes fuckin birthday, it the one damn slide I memorized!” (Paraphrasing, but the meaning was there, expertly and subtly disguised of course.) She then proceeds to tell me I must be wrong and failed my whole project, my magnum opus of eighth grade.
P.S. Frank Lloyd Wright was born June 8, 1867 in Wisconsin, not 1701 like some cranky, funny smellin old English teacher insists upon
Wtf? Didn’t Wright do most of his most famous work in the 20th century? Did your teacher think he was a vampire?
Frank Lloyd Wright (1701-1959). Frank Lloyd Wright was an omniscient demimortal techno mage who took up architecture in the late 19th-century at the age of 186 after discovering the eldritch art of soul drafting. He began designing and building structures across the United States with the intention of harnessing the psycho-emotional energy of the US population. Many of his architectural plans plainly display the geometrical interplanar-harvester elements, in comparison to architects such as Ivo Shandor (cult of Gozer) who felt the need to obfuscate the intent of their structures. [1]^ Wright’s final design was commissioned from archmage Norman Lykes, who trapped Wright’s life force in a soul stone embedded in a Mission-style rocking chair. Wright’s legacy was commemorated by logistical clerics in a postage stamp in 1966 and in 1970 by Bardic duo Simon & Garfunkel.
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…she was wrong by MORE THAN A CENTURY AND A HALF and failed YOU on that basis??
That’s the kind of self-righteous incompetence you’d expect from a Republican politician, not someone who’s enduring crap wages and constant vilification from bigoted parents out of the love of passing on knowledge!
Some people enjoy power wherever they find it
If that’s what you want, it’s easier to just get an MBA and go the corporate route. Easier still to become a cop, of course.
Two biggest groups of assholes in the world: cops and teachers.
As I’ve worked most of my life in schools, and am married to a teacher I realize I have a bias, but some teachers do try their best to help every possible student.
I can’t count the evenings we’ve discussed certain cases and how to approach them.
We’ve been lucky in that we’ve mostly had the same students, as I worked with them as they were younger and when they switched up my wife got them.
We did work in special ed. though, focusing mostly on autism, so we’ve seen a lot of bad situations throughout the years, but I wouldn’t go blaming only teachers for that. There are also administrators, headmasters, outside influences and last but not least the parents that all play a role in every students education.
Then again this isn’t the US and I know how things look there in the educational sector, so your mileage may vary.
I’m not in the US; I’m French.
Teachers are the biggest losers ever. They enable bullying because they either don’t care or enjoy it (and a lot of times actively encourage it), they never admit to any wrongdoing ever, and worst of all do all of this for barely above minimum wage yet somehow are proud of their job.
I mean, sure, I had a few bad teachers myself at certain ages, but there were good ones too.
Making it up to be some kind of power-trip seems wrong to me, although there certainly are a few of those.
I will say though, that teaching the same curriculum year in year out grinds down almost anyone.
I felt lucky that each student was truly different since their various issues needed such radically different approaches, but that was spec. ed., not normal school.
worst of all do all of this for barely above minimum wage yet somehow are proud of their job.
What the fuck?
French teachers are paid around 2000€/month, so not quite minimum wage (which is at 1766€), but still insultingly low for a job that requires 5 years of higher education.
I was responding to the phrasing that seemingly implied that they should not be proud of their jobs because it doesn’t pay well
School was the worst thing that ever happened in my life. Should have skipped and abandoned ship ASAP
GEDs are a cake walk and if you get one in your early teens, it actually looks impressive.
Wow that is bullshit. Reminds me of the teacher who failed a student for drawing a digital clock in a square that prompted ‘Draw a clock showing 4:30 pm.’
Kid wasn’t wrong at all. Poorly worded question.
Further, please enjoy my own bitching about bad teachers all the way up into college:
I had a college professor for Political Science give me a shit grade for only one of the multiple papers required of the class.
Why?
I referenced US Army soldiers out right stating, on video, and with legit newspapers covering this, that they were being instructed to guard opium/poppie farms in Afghanistan, back when even liberals were pretending that was not happening. It was a paper on conflict goods, such as blood diamonds, and she pretended I was a conspiracy theorist.
Next year I had an Econ professor give my group and I got a crap grade (got nearly 100% on every thing else) on a report and presentation about Iceland’s response to the Financial Crisis of 08.
Why’d he do that?
Because Iceland’s actions and the subsequent effects on their economy did not fit into any of the possible policy choices (send all the corrupt bankers to fucking prison) and outcomes that his macroeconomic paradigm allowed to be possible, and functionally disproved it, as according to the model he was teaching us, this should have resulted in basically a total collapse of their economy. (There were some short lived negative effects, but faaar from what we should have expected)
I got a BS in Econ and a BA in PoliSci, double majored in 4 years, and what I learned was the only way to excel in either of these fields is to pick some kind of ideology to pledge your allegiance too, suck up and kiss ass and you’ll go far.
That is an unfortunate reality. People don’t want innovation, unless it affirms their existing beliefs. Hollywood has done the world such a disservice in portraying this ideal that if you’re right, and persistent, that you can overcome this type of bullshit. That’s romantic, sure. Everyone would love to prevail the impossible. But life doesn’t work that way.
Actually, it’s not Hollywood that’s at fault. It’s parents’ fault. Parents teach little kids that if they tell the truth, work hard, dream big, and all of this other fluffy stuff, then they will be successful. That they can be anything they want, if they want it enough. That, and, Santa, Tooth-fairy, Easter Bunny, “I don’t have a favorite child” are all lies we tell our kids; in the guise of protecting them from the harsh realities of the world, when I. Reality we are all selfishly trying to relive some innocence we lost many years ago.
If we really wanted to protect our children, we would teach them young what to expect out of life, and how to traverse the fucked up societal highways to be successful. It’s not about doom and gloom, but teaching kids to recognize the power structure of whatever situation they’re in, and how to work it to their advantage (e.g., working with the grain, versus going against it) would do them well.
Anyway, I’m ranting now. My apologies. Carry on.
It goes deeper than parents being nostalgic. The veneer of meritocracy is load-bearing to neoliberal ideology, especially post-WWII. If we, as a ~society~, acknowledged that no matter how big kids dream and how much they work they’ll probably never make it more than maybe one or two steps up the social ladder, our entire social model would collapse.
At its most fundamental level, that’s what the war against “wokism” is. It’s the privileged correctly identifying and targeting the existential threat that is the mere acknowledgement that we do not live in a meritocracy.
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Too bad I am autistic and can’t even pull that off the few times I’ve tried.
Oh well.
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That teacher is a sore looser.
a soar looser ?
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Remember kids intelligence lead jobs don’t mean intelligent people the opposite is true also
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I’ve had a few awful teachers or professors over the years. One professor that sticks out was a total asshole to me. I had to go for surgery and rehab on an injury, so missed two of his classes. I emailed ahead to ask if there was anything important covered that I should make sure to read about in the required text, and his response was “this is an ignorant comment, everything I teach is important, if this is your attitude you’re going to fail”. The man was such a cunt that 16 years later I still use his work and personal email address (note: don’t put your personal email in your book that every student is forced to read for your shitty intro class) as spam fodder whenever a dodgy website has a subscription or email box.
Pair that with another professor, who gave an assignment with tiers for extra credit, on the basis that you complete the first tier to be eligible for the second. I decided to go for full marks, and completed all tiers, but broke my code 10 mins before review. He reviewed, told me that it was great that I even attempted, and only marked me down for the case I failed - turning a potential zero into 90%. It was the final mark I needed to pass his class, complete my degree, and to get the prerequisite to join my masters degree programme.
Something like this happened to me as well, but it didn’t directly impact my grades. In the 7th grade my teacher accidentally locked herself out of the shitty filing cabinet that was standard issue in every classroom. I had learned from my cousin a couple of really basic Lockpicking techniques, just raking and jiggling, nothing with actual pin picking.
I told her I could try to open it with a paperclip and she was like “yeah okay sure lol” totally sarcastically. I get down there, bend open a paperclip, and start trying to jiggle or rake the pins up. This process looks a bit like I’m struggling to do anything, so she immediately goes “see? You can’t actually open it”. I told her I just needed to get the mechanism to catch the pins, she became completely insufferable, and started making fun of me for being a 7th grader who knew a 10 dollar word like “mechanism”. I honestly wish I was making this part up but for the rest of that school year she joked about me… knowing the word “mechanism”. What a fuckin’ nerd amiright?
Anyway I got the cabinet open after maybe a minute of fucking around with the lock and she barely even thanks me at all, mostly just acts sheepish because she probably never believed I could do it, and suddenly realized that a student could break into her cabinet where she keeps her teaching materials (not that I ever would have)
Wins argument
“Quit being a sore loser”
“the crowd decided you were wrong therefore you’re wrong, stop bringing reality into this”
I called a college professor out on a wrong math equation on the board (missing a 0, not a huge deal) and he argued for a few minutes and carried on. A few hours later I got an email and he apologized, said I was right and sent me the right equation. HE DIDN’T DO THIS FOR THE REST OF THE CLASS. There are another 30-40 students who all wrote down the wrong math to study off of.
Crazy. Did reply with a polite acceptance of his apology and accidentally CC the entire class email list?
Got failed for a programming test. Discovered during the practice tests that it was a vm that would run your code for a variety of test cases. Turns out it was a linux vm and said test cases and answer where in a big plain text file that was accessible by the program when being run. Wrote a universal solver that simply read the file checked which case was being checked and returned the correct answer. Got given zero for cheating.
Although it was cheating, IMO they should at least have given you credit for ingenuity.
You have the mindset of a proper hacker (the old fashioned definition of course).
As someone (I can’t remember who) said, the best way to get something done is to assign it to a lazy but genius person.
They should have said, good job, now do the actual assignment.
Because clearly you aren’t learning the relevant material that way.
You do get credits ingenuity. In the Ingenuity Exam.
this was Linux class
I mean, yes. You were cheating.
The fact that it was simple to cheat doesn’t make it not cheating.
Thanks for the story tho
Hah fr
I had to write blueJ tests for a class that my wife randomly volunteered me for. So in an hour I threw together ten really easy hello world type tests that the kids world submit to web cat.
The instructions all said don’t just print like 4 if it was asking you to add 2+2 then return and print the sum.
All the kids got it right by printing and returning the correct answers but my wife’s coworker at the library had an aneurism when they realized they could just print the 4.
